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    Old 07-11-08, 18:15   #1 (permalink)
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    Question Any info on psychedelic shrooms in South Korea?

    ...particularly on Jeju island ("the Hawaii of Far East Asia").

    Info is damned scarce on the Web about this; I know Japan has at least 4 active psylocibin strains...and as Japan is a stone's throw from South Korea, I can't figger why it's so hard to get info on mine question.

    Any expats here encountered the real thang (or even telltale leads) in Korea?
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    Old 08-27-08, 06:39   #2 (permalink)
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    Howdy freakdaddy, good to see you here as well.

    gymnopilus species are there as well as psilocybe argentipes (in your area) good luck
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    Old 08-27-08, 10:58   #3 (permalink)
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    Howdy freakdaddy, good to see you here as well.
    gymnopilus species are there as well as psilocybe argentipes (in your area) good luck
    Where did you read that P. argentipes is i South Korea?

    If you go to any South Korean University Library, they have expensive $100 dollars and up Korean and Jaanese Mushroom Guides on their shelfs. Find someone who speaks some English and get them to help you. Libraries have free access in most countries except the Vatican and Harvard.

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    I notice you have posted this at a few other sies and no response.
    Well this is one way for you to find out if there are any in South Korea.
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    Old 08-29-08, 08:03   #4 (permalink)
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    *Classification : Fungi >Eumycota >Basidiomycotina >Eubasidiomycetes >Hymenomycetidae >Agaricales >Strophariaceae >Psilocybe
    *Scientific Name : Psilocybe argentipes
    *Voucher No. : 11244A
    *Collector : TAE WAN KIM
    *Collector Date : 09.Jul.2003
    *Current Name :
    *Habit & Habital :
    *Life Style : Saprophyte
    *Edibility : Poisonous
    *Counrty : Korea
    *Area : NAMBU HAK-DONG, GEOJE-SI, GYEONGSANGNAM-DO

    http://hccn.niast.go.kr/

    The strange thing about this site is that after I started viewing it the collection information returned that error. If i went to google and searched
    "psilocybe HCCN" It would return links to some pages that worked. One of them was the above page. Google doesn't seem to return that page anymore. I'm not sure what happened.

    The record is from the south though. Much more Japan like
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    Old 08-29-08, 10:09   #5 (permalink)
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    *Classification : Fungi >Eumycota >Basidiomycotina >Eubasidiomycetes >Hymenomycetidae >Agaricales >Strophariaceae >Psilocybe
    *Scientific Name : Psilocybe argentipes
    *Voucher No. : 11244A
    *Collector : TAE WAN KIM
    *Collector Date : 09.Jul.2003
    *Current Name :
    *Habit & Habital :
    *Life Style : Saprophyte
    *Edibility : Poisonous
    *Counrty : Korea
    *Area : NAMBU HAK-DONG, GEOJE-SI, GYEONGSANGNAM-DO
    http://hccn.niast.go.kr/

    The strange thing about this site is that after I started viewing it the collection information returned that error. If i went to google and searched "psilocybe HCCN" It would return links to some pages that worked. One of them was the above page. Google doesn't seem to return that page anymore. I'm not sure what happened.

    The record is from the south though. Much more Japan like
    Well I have several dozen photos of P. argentipes from other interested people who found them in Japan, but they are for my CD-ROM Bibliography only and I have promised not to post them online.

    I am curious as to what the HCCN stands for? And why would he supply all that data and leave out the habit and habitat fo the species he doeposited?

    Also, it appears there is no mention of the herbarium where the mushrooms are deposited at which makes it even less valuable as a reliable source, unless I am imissing something in the post m you made aboe.

    All Herbariums have an official liting of their Initials for journal publications.

    I even have one list somewhere in my files but cannot reclall. Maybe in the Guzman Genus Psilocybe Monograph.

    I will later look that up.

    mjshroomer.

    Still, if it is in Korea, it must be very rare.

    I will inform Guzmn of this report for his book, if he deems it as a valid deposit. He can communicated directly with any herbarium in the world. If that shroom is really on deposit at such a herbarium.

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    Old 08-30-08, 22:12   #6 (permalink)
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    "HCCN is the initial of Herbarium Conservation
    Center of NIAST(National Institute of Agricultural
    Science and Technology) in Rural Development
    Administration(RDA),Suwon 441-707,Republic of
    Korea.This is the NIAST's database of herbarium
    specimen data and to the world wide web portal to
    that data.
    The HCCN was registered in the Index Herbariorum of
    New York Botanical Garden,USA in 2006. "

    from the front page.
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    ...Sounds kosher to me.
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    Old 08-31-08, 07:40   #8 (permalink)
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    Quote:
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    "HCCN is the initial of Herbarium Conservation
    Center of NIAST(National Institute of Agricultural
    Science and Technology) in Rural Development
    Administration(RDA),Suwon 441-707,Republic of
    Korea.This is the NIAST's database of herbarium
    specimen data and to the world wide web portal to
    that data.
    The HCCN was registered in the Index Herbariorum of
    New York Botanical Garden,USA in 2006. "
    from the front page.

    So it could be possible then that the Korean deposit of P. argentipes came from Japan and was then deposited in the Herbarium by Korean shroomers on a foray in another country.

    I have shrooms from Thailand deposited in many herbaiums in different coutries as well as many Hawaiian Cope species spread across the globe.

    Shrooms are strainge. For instance, Hawaii and Samoa are rich in Copelandia cyanescens yet no cubbes have ever grown there.

    But then Fiji is noted for its cubes.

    mjshroomer

    As I said, you need to walk around rural areas, in parks andl ook in gardens in man-made environments.

    Four years ago we p photographed Copelandia cyanescens growing in thre mulched garden beds surrounding the Dean of Chulalongkorn University'ss Office. We later learned that the gardeners had bought fertilizers at a local market and spread them into the garden areas around the whole of the Department of Microbiology, Including the building housing the Dean. Zoom, hence Copes were growing there. They did not return for a second fruiting.

    Like the church lawn in Bern Switzerland which had a whole couple weeks of a massicve lawn fruiting of Copelandia bispora from sod purchased in the south of France. The fruitings made a local European Journal and was quite impressive with bluing shrooms all over the lawn.

    AS for Korea, I am sure there are some there, buit Koreans are not so much into psychedelics but like most Asians who work long indiseous hours, they love yabba (speed) in Thai.

    Japanese love Pot. Mushrooms and X.

    But if you look every day for an hour here and an hour there you will sooner or laer find some of one kind or another.

    However, they nevr came back the following year.
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    *Counrty : Korea
    *Area : NAMBU HAK-DONG, GEOJE-SI, GYEONGSANGNAM-DO

    The collection information seems quite clear.
    Geoje-si is in island in the south, not far off the mainland. Nambu Hak-dong is a small city there.

    I don't think it is that surprising that a population could exist in the south, either recently introduced by japanese soldiers, tourists whatever. Or a long ago population. And then again perhaps the species was misidentified.
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