Chocolates

[Mycolangelo]

FOAF had some dry cubs and bakers chocolate, made 1oz medallions with 2g each.
haven't tried chocolates before, I understand the experience is different.
Well, I'll give a report tomorrow. It's been 15 min now and I'm starting to feel something.
Time for a hot tub

[chimp]

chocolate is MAOI

[Stenciler]

lol, and an aphrodisiac..

[MLBjammer]

It's the same experience, but I like chocolates for storage and easy consumption. White chocolate--though less liquidy than dark--really masks the taste, and the more shrooms you eat, the worse they taste IME. GL.

[siam_jim]

chocolates??? yuk. but it does it purpose trying to mask the taste. i prefer tea or make pizza...
tell us about the trip...

siam

[Glasshopper]

Originally Posted by siam_jim

chocolates??? yuk.

Well, Siam you just blew a therory of mine. I thought that people who didn't like chocolate just didn't have alot of anandamide receptors, but based on your posts on certain green anandamide agonist you seem to be very fond of , you blew my theory out of the water.

[siam_jim]

lol GH...




siam

[Mycolangelo]

One with 2g was too light, next time I'll have to eat 3 with the 2g each.
After an hour or so I went to bed and right to sleep. was somthing amiss?
Shrooms were ground to a fine powder and slowly added to the melted chocolate in the double boiler then the molds were filled. When cool they were wrapped sealed and stored in the freezer.
Sound OK?

[siam_jim]

i think you killed some active by the heat??

do tea


siam

[MLBjammer]

You don't need to freeze the chocolates. Just put them in a ziplock in the fridge, wrapped in foil, of course. Sorry to gross you out, Siam, but I find that white chocolate really masks the taste. I thought the tea always came and went too fast for me. Truthfully, I love them fresh, but that's not a situation one can have at all times. Peace.

[ShadowBoom]

Originally Posted by Mycolangelo

Shrooms were ground to a fine powder and slowly added to the melted chocolate in the double boiler then the molds were filled.

I'm thinking there was DEFINETLY too much heat involved. I usually just take a bite out of my favorite chocolate bar (take 5s are great) and then eat a cap. Take a bite, eat a cap.. repeat.

[golly]

I made some chocolates using the same method as u Myco and had the same results -slow come up and weak effect...Even though the mush was subjected to less heat than making tea ...I dont have a good reason for the underwhelming trip ...I just dont make choco's 'ny more...

[I_am_me]

There wasn't too much heat involved...its been proven time and time again that while heat does destroy psilo that brief exposure doesn't seem to effect potency at a noticable level at all. Just like golly said, I've used way more heat making tea before and it was just fine.

[mycobri]

and washing a fresh shroom under some water does not seem to make activity decline either, but i guess an extended soak or boil would.

ice cube trays are a good mold for chocolates

[Spark]

I belive the whole idea behind creating mushroom chocolates is to mask the taste,smell and appearance.

[MLBjammer]

Exactly. I followed a tek in the archives using a double-boiler, melting the chocolate till it pours out of the spoon. I grind the magic in a coffee grinder till it's almost powder (still a few li'l chunks). I remove the melted chocolate from the heat, quickly and agressively stir in the magic, spoon the results into ice cube trays, cover with foil, and let cool for an hour. I then wrap each candy individually in foil. I aim for about a 2 gram dose in each one. Every batch has come out very, very strong. Chocolate melts at a fairly low heat, so I do not think exposing the shroom mix to at most 100F really reduces the potency at all. And one of those fat guys in my avatar keeps cleaning out my supply--damn the sweet tooth!

[Mycolangelo]

Hmm? I guess next time the temp should drop below 200 F
The main purpose for making magic chocolates was long term storage and the rumor that the effect was increased.

[MLBjammer]

Yeah, just set your pot of water on low heat, then stir in your chocolate, keeping at it till it pours off the spoon.
You might also have misjudged the dosage of each chocolate when you made them. GL.

[fahtster]

you can also stick the chocolate in a microwave safe bowl (pyrex) and nuke the choc. (chop it down to chunks about the size of a normal marble) for 3 min. on high and take out and stir... a lot faster and less cumbersome than a double boiler. might want to test out some choc. on a lower time setting in the microwave first so you don't ruin your choc... you can always put it in for more time if it's under done.

fahtster

[BIGBOOMER]

for long term storage one can take fresh (or dry) mushrooms and put them into honey (it will turn the honey blue) i think that there may be a tek on it or some one has some more info than i do i just put fresh ones in and every so often i will have to drain the water off the top then after the water stops its good for a long time storage just dont forget and put some "blue honey" on your toast and go off to work

[LotRev]

That honey sounds pretty interesting...

FOAF had some mushie peanut butter he would spread on his sandwiches everyday for a little buzz along the way.

[BIGBOOMER]

honey is the only food that NEVER goes bad

[alpiner]

honey does go bad if liquids are added to it, for your own safety only add dry or nearly dry mushrooms to it
this comes from the son of a bee keeper so I do know a little about honey

[golly]

I agree with Alpiner....Some really unfriendly microbes can flourish in water and oil based liquids....

[BIGBOOMER]

well as you alpiner said it will go bad IF you add water to it and i do agree with golly too about the nasty microbes in water but i never said to add water only mushrooms i have never had any problems wether dry or not the "water " i speek of comes from within the mushroom i dont think that there could be that many contams in it if any at all

[srgtm1a]

Whatever happened to the good 'ol days when people use to just dry them and eat them?

[golly]

The mushroom itself is proly loaded with various bacteria and mold spores.
If the honey is diluted with water from the mush for too long then it would seem that the antiseptic quality of the honey would be weakened...
I Just think that fully dried mush would be safer to add....

[BIGBOOMER]

see that is the thing we can all take what info we need/want and forget the rest every one has their own take on things some use poo some use castings some pack dry and some fresh

id definately bring the heat down

extreme temps kill the psyili
100 seems pretty safe.. seeing how as the grow temps are maxed out at 116?

so that means no boiling and no freezer!

The question is.. how do you make sure you have 2 grams of good stuff in there when your grinding it all up......

[robman1]

You could weigh it before you place each in the mold, though I bet it'd be kinda hard and not good to eyeball it.

[alpiner]

I meant the water within the mushrooms they are about 90% water you know
I would have to be pretty dense to think that you were pouring water in there
just as a test add 20% water by volume to honey and come back in two weeks when you come back it might be getting nasty, now try it with 40% and it will be bad in a week no doubt

the shrooms are contamed unless grown invitro and you never touched them and they were never exposed to air
the honey is contamed as well so as soon as the sugar content drops stuff will start growing
you can say whatever you want and insist you have no problems but I am going to say that I have seen honey go bad and you really don't want to push your luck unless it's for imidiate use
I would dry them myself no doubt

the goods break down at 190F keep it below that and you're fine, choc scortches easily anyway so just go enough to melt it nicely

[BIGBOOMER]

as i said we can take what we want and forget what we dont want that is what we all are here for to find the magic I have never had honey go bad also i have looked up blue honey here on the topia and there are a few ppl who have touched this topic and still some say fresh and some say dry it must be a matter of choice and if they are dry and i want to make some blue honey i will and if they are fresh and i want to make blue honey i will growing boomers is not something im new at and storage isnt a new thing to me you can say i have been around the block a few times and what i forgot you will never know, IME both dry and fresh work you are here to learn new methods of growing, picking, eating, and storage take what you want leave the rest