Immature shroomies turning blue, dying.. [bleach fumes]

teletrue · 03-01-05, 08:56

Having a problem with my eq's...
They look like they'll be fine..start off with nice pins..but when they get about ,1/2" or so, they turn blue..and just..die. :-/

Any suggestions? I think it might be a vent. problem..but I fan 2-3 times a day..

Thanks,
Tele

03-01-05, 09:02

It sounds more like you're misting them. You must stop misting when pins form, but you can start up again when they're one inch long. Don't use bleach in your misting water at any time you spray fruits. Even large fruits will turn blue and abort if sprayed with bleach water.

teletrue · 03-01-05, 09:06

Thanks Rodger,

but nah..no misting..these are just cakes sitting on AL. Foil in a humidified terrerium..

:-/

I took the cakes out and patted them down with some toilet tissue to help absorb some of the water that was on them..there was some residual moisture on them, and I think I soaked a lot of it up

Thanks
Tele

insight · 03-01-05, 09:12

What temp. are they in? Are you using perlite or a humidifier for moisture?

teletrue · 03-01-05, 09:16

They're about 70F right now, and it's perlite I'm using

tele

highflyer · 03-01-05, 22:27

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rodger

It sounds more like you're misting them. You must stop misting when pins form, but you can start up again when they're one inch long. Don't use bleach in your misting water at any time you spray fruits. Even large fruits will turn blue and abort if sprayed with bleach water.

Thats the only time Ive ever seen pins turn blue. The bin they were in was cleaned with bleach and wasnt aired out/washed out enough before the casing was placed in. The fumes killed every shroom.

I honestly dont know what advise to give you off hand teletrue. The damage may have possibly came when you handled them. There is no need to wipe moisture off cakes. Its better just to leave them be.

sinthetic · 03-01-05, 22:45

lysol will also turn fruits blue with only a very lil amount, even if the mushroms have been picked.

In a clean area, a clone was attempted with a cube, lysol was sprayed in the air and around the area, the uncovered stem turned completely dark blue almost instantly.

BTW Lysol isn't good to use around your grow area, as i hear it causes mutations.
In fact, i don't even spray the air around the glovebox with it n e more, as its just a simple surface cleaner. IMO a spraybottle of bleachwater works well.

teletrue · 03-02-05, 07:49

Now I'm really confused...

I don't even use lysol, and I do use the bleach/water in a spraybottle...I don't have any chemicals in my tanks, just water, and perlite...I air them out several times a day.

Oh well..guess I'll just have to wait and see..

Thanks everyone!
Tele

~Hippie3 · 03-02-05, 12:04

Quote:

The fumes killed every shroom

glad to hear someone confirm what i've said before

~Hippie3 · 03-02-05, 12:05

tele,
you proly need to dunk your cakes,
it sounds like the cakes lack enough water
to let the pins grow fully.

Quote:

They look like they'll be fine..start off with nice pins..but when they get about ,1/2" or so, they turn blue..and just..die. :-/

~Hippie3 · 03-02-05, 12:07

Quote:

I think it might be a vent. problem..but I fan 2-3 times a day..it's perlite

how deep is the perlite layer ?
3 inches of damp [no standing water] is recommended

your humidity may be low,
'got a guage ?

ck seal on lid too
perlite won't work with too much air exchane

teletrue · 03-02-05, 13:21

Thanks a lot hip...

I'll take your advice..and dunk. How long would you say would be sufficient?

The seal is good on the lids, it's glad press-n-seal, and works like a charm.

~Hippie3 · 03-02-05, 16:12

dunk 12-24 hours in cold water [refridgerated if possible]

I_am_me · 03-02-05, 16:15

Quote:

Originally Posted by highflyer

Thats the only time Ive ever seen pins turn blue. The bin they were in was cleaned with bleach and wasnt aired out/washed out enough before the casing was placed in. The fumes killed every shroom.

Had the exact same experience with cakes.

I did however notice that all the shrooms caps were opening and the shrooms were deforming and looking "sick" so I was able to make the change in just enough time to save several cakes.

Bleach fumes can be harmful.

teletrue · 03-02-05, 18:03

I thought coldshocking wasn't helpful...?

03-02-05, 19:47

It's not cold shocking. Bacteria want to grow and multiply in water, so by dunking in the refrigerator, you keep the bacteria dormant until after the dunk. Be sure to also rinse the cake very well under the faucet after the dunk to remove the sludge and other slime that forms.

teletrue · 03-02-05, 19:55

Thanks guys

now I get it.

Tele

~Hippie3 · 03-02-05, 20:34

the cold won't speed up pinning,
just prevents bacteria like rodg said

teletrue · 03-03-05, 16:46

And this is why I come to everyone here

I just pulled my golden teacher cakes out of a dunk about a week ago, and WOW, have they taken off! I thought they were dead...Well, guess their not so dead..just thirsty

~Hippie3 · 03-03-05, 22:23

Quote:

just pulled my golden teacher cakes out of a dunk about a week ago, and WOW, have they taken off! I thought they were dead...Well, guess their not so dead..just thirsty

great news,
dunking rulz!

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03-01-05, 08:56	#1 (permalink)
teletrue Mycophage Join Date: May 1972 Posts: 183	Immature shroomies turning blue, dying.. [bleach fumes] Having a problem with my eq's... They look like they'll be fine..start off with nice pins..but when they get about ,1/2" or so, they turn blue..and just..die. :-/ Any suggestions? I think it might be a vent. problem..but I fan 2-3 times a day.. Thanks, Tele __________________ I love this hobby. =)

03-01-05, 09:06	#3 (permalink)
teletrue Mycophage Join Date: May 1972 Posts: 183	Thanks Rodger, but nah..no misting..these are just cakes sitting on AL. Foil in a humidified terrerium.. :-/ I took the cakes out and patted them down with some toilet tissue to help absorb some of the water that was on them..there was some residual moisture on them, and I think I soaked a lot of it up Thanks Tele __________________ I love this hobby. =)

03-01-05, 09:12	#4 (permalink)
insight Mycotopiate Join Date: Feb 1970 Posts: 835	What temp. are they in? Are you using perlite or a humidifier for moisture? __________________ "I create cultures, not those of politics and society, but those for the good of the people" -Myself

03-01-05, 09:16	#5 (permalink)
teletrue Mycophage Join Date: May 1972 Posts: 183	They're about 70F right now, and it's perlite I'm using tele __________________ I love this hobby. =)

03-01-05, 09:02	#2 (permalink)
~Peter Cottontail Guest Posts: n/a	It sounds more like you're misting them. You must stop misting when pins form, but you can start up again when they're one inch long. Don't use bleach in your misting water at any time you spray fruits. Even large fruits will turn blue and abort if sprayed with bleach water.

03-01-05, 22:45	#7 (permalink)
sinthetic i party like a rock star Join Date: Apr 1970 Posts: 871	lysol will also turn fruits blue with only a very lil amount, even if the mushroms have been picked. In a clean area, a clone was attempted with a cube, lysol was sprayed in the air and around the area, the uncovered stem turned completely dark blue almost instantly. BTW Lysol isn't good to use around your grow area, as i hear it causes mutations. In fact, i don't even spray the air around the glovebox with it n e more, as its just a simple surface cleaner. IMO a spraybottle of bleachwater works well.

03-02-05, 07:49	#8 (permalink)
teletrue Mycophage Join Date: May 1972 Posts: 183	Now I'm really confused... I don't even use lysol, and I do use the bleach/water in a spraybottle...I don't have any chemicals in my tanks, just water, and perlite...I air them out several times a day. Oh well..guess I'll just have to wait and see.. Thanks everyone! Tele __________________ I love this hobby. =)

03-02-05, 13:21	#12 (permalink)
teletrue Mycophage Join Date: May 1972 Posts: 183	Thanks a lot hip... I'll take your advice..and dunk. How long would you say would be sufficient? The seal is good on the lids, it's glad press-n-seal, and works like a charm. __________________ I love this hobby. =)

03-02-05, 16:12	#13 (permalink)
~Hippie3 DUNG DEALER Join Date: Feb 2001 Posts: 42,765	dunk 12-24 hours in cold water [refridgerated if possible]

03-02-05, 18:03	#15 (permalink)
teletrue Mycophage Join Date: May 1972 Posts: 183	I thought coldshocking wasn't helpful...? __________________ I love this hobby. =)

03-02-05, 19:47	#16 (permalink)
~Peter Cottontail Guest Posts: n/a	It's not cold shocking. Bacteria want to grow and multiply in water, so by dunking in the refrigerator, you keep the bacteria dormant until after the dunk. Be sure to also rinse the cake very well under the faucet after the dunk to remove the sludge and other slime that forms.

03-02-05, 19:55	#17 (permalink)
teletrue Mycophage Join Date: May 1972 Posts: 183	Thanks guys now I get it. Tele __________________ I love this hobby. =)

03-02-05, 20:34	#18 (permalink)
~Hippie3 DUNG DEALER Join Date: Feb 2001 Posts: 42,765	the cold won't speed up pinning, just prevents bacteria like rodg said

03-03-05, 16:46	#19 (permalink)
teletrue Mycophage Join Date: May 1972 Posts: 183	And this is why I come to everyone here I just pulled my golden teacher cakes out of a dunk about a week ago, and WOW, have they taken off! I thought they were dead...Well, guess their not so dead..just thirsty __________________ I love this hobby. =)

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