Need help with post dunk of hongus cake PLEASE

[hungryhippo]

The camera was left at a friends house last week, so I am sorry no pics this time, but I will describe it to a "T". FOAF dunked 2 hongus cakes-which are failry large and were made with 3 and 4 pf cakes each (totally submerged cold water dunk) for 10-12 hours apiece with a 20 minute 200:1 water/bleach predunk. Primordia were dunked as well without being scraped off (some were 1/4 - 1/2" long, but most were much smaller). The casing layer of 60/40 verm/coir was rinsed off PRIOR to the dunk. Cakes were rinsed, dunked, water well drained off and placed back into the FC. But instead of placing the cakes back inside the loaf tins, the loaf tins were flipped UPSIDE DOWN so the cakes were resting on the top (which is actually the bottom of the loaf tin which is upside down). FOAF did this thinking that way light would hit the sides of the cakes giving more growing surface area. Well the cakes have NOT BEEN RE-CASED. They are in the FC at 95% RH and 78 F. Should a straight verm or a verm/coir casing be REAPPLIED? If so, just nuke some casing at field capacity and let it cool and sprinkle a layer over the primordia that were already there before the dunk. Some but not all of the primordia are growing, but they have only been in the FC for 2 days since the dunk and they are TOTALLY uncased. Do they need re-casing or anything at this point bc a lot of the primordia arent growing yet? Or just be more patient. FOAF is worried maybe some arent growing bc the dunk maybe killed them? also one cake was broke and split into 2. it cracked during the dunk. Any help is greatly appreciated. THANK YOU!

[prism1234]

I would DEC case em

[hungryhippo]

Originally Posted by prism1234

I would DEC case em

I dont think they are sturdy enough to be lifted to get verm under them, but foaf will case the top. any other advice?

[hungryhippo]

one of those 2 cakes is fruiting nicely but the other one is really not doing much at all. foaf wonderds if he should re-rinse, scrape off all the fungal tissue and a 20 minute bleach dunk. would this be good? foaf is worried maybe since those pre-exisiting primorida arent growing, he is worried maybe they are rotting underneath. any thoughts on this?

[Mermaidia]

Are the preexisting primordia changing colors or getting soft?

If so i'd go ahead and either pic them or scrape them off. Sometimes it will take a day or two to recover from the dunk.

Can you apply some moist verm to some foil and slide your hongus cake on to it?
Then you can apply the verm to the top as well. Just a thought. Sometimes ya gotta get a bit crafty to make things work.

[hungryhippo]

Originally Posted by Mermaidia

Are the preexisting primordia changing colors or getting soft?

If so i'd go ahead and either pic them or scrape them off. Sometimes it will take a day or two to recover from the dunk.

Can you apply some moist verm to some foil and slide your hongus cake on to it?
Then you can apply the verm to the top as well. Just a thought. Sometimes ya gotta get a bit crafty to make things work.

FOAF went ahead with plans before he got your reply. what he did was take the cake and rinsed off the casing, then scraped all old fungal tissue off. a few primordia were left on, but only the heartier/newer looking stuff. then it was dunked 20 minutes in bleach:water at 200:1. He then re-cased with verm/coir that was microwave sterilized at field capacity, then placed back into the FC.
While he was dunking he totally cleaned the FC with bleach water and dumped the old perlite and old polyfil and replaced with fresh/new stuff. He has to out of town for the weekend and hopes he doesnt come back to a contam mess when he gets back. he is worried due to the fact he had to mess with the cake again by re-dunking, scraping, etc.

[onediadem]

If the Rh in your chamber is that high, a casing layer isn't needed.