Pan Trops on Straw/Poo

Mr. Clean · 06-30-08, 20:24

SWIM knocked up six 1/2 pints of corn with a Paneoleous Tropicalis syringe on 6/22. In eight days, all but one of the jars have reached 100% colonization..

SWIM spawned one of the 1/2 pints to an equal amount of pasteurized straw/horse poo, then placed in the incubator on 6/29. Having no prior experience with Pans, (or dung) he wanted to keep things small for his first attempt.

After about 24 hours, the myc has recovered and is now starting to rip through the straw/poo nicely. SWIM is wondering when he should apply a casing layer to this "mini-tray." I reckon he should wait until 100% colonization? I'm not sure if straw/poo is supposed to be completely covered in mycelium before casing, though I'd figure as much..How do things look as of right now? Any and all input on the project at this point would be greatly appreciated!!

Keep it clean,
Mr. Clean

P.S. The apparent purple-hue of the substrate is an illusion!! I believe the camera was to blame

livewire420 · 06-30-08, 20:32

looking good

Mr. Clean · 06-30-08, 20:58

Thanks. Any ideas on when SWIM should apply his casing layer?

golly · 06-30-08, 21:07

Almost there ,mebbe another day to case...Looks good...

Hippie3 · 06-30-08, 21:08

yeah, looks great.

Mr. Clean · 06-30-08, 21:21

Thanks, y'all. SWIM is very excited about his first Panaeolus. Takes him back to the first cube grows

Gotta love the feeling of exploring new "territory!" Updates soon.

Mr. Clean · 07-01-08, 21:31

This morning, the Pan Trops "mini-tray" looked like this:
http://forums.mycotopia.net/attachme...1&d=1214963963

Now, it looks something like this

http://forums.mycotopia.net/attachme...1&d=1214963963

SWIM will probably incubate for another day or two, before throwing it in the FC. Hopefully, things work out according to plan. Updates soon!!

Mr. Clean · 07-01-08, 21:34

Can someone please help me with the image uploader..I've been having to embed off-site images lately-When I try to upload more then 4, it crashes. What am I doing wrong?

Also, how in the hell do I resize embedded images?!

eatyualive · 07-01-08, 22:27

resize the images using photoshop or photo editing software.
ill upload your pics..

when you login, try putting a check mark in the remember me box and see if that solves your problem. ive had that happen as well.

most likely what happened was that your pictures are too large to upload on site. there is a limit. try downsizing your photos to email size on your camera. it should have an option in the menu.

personally, i tend to be a little skeptical to case anything that isn't 100% colonized. i know pan mycelia will run through it but it has caused me problems in the past. keep your eyes open if anything looks strange.

Mr. Clean · 07-01-08, 22:40

Quote:

Originally Posted by eatyualive

personally, i tend to be a little skeptical to case anything that isn't 100% colonized. i know pan mycelia will run through it but it has caused me problems in the past. keep your eyes open if anything looks strange.

Will do. Thanks for the info BTW. SWIM has cased early in the past, without any problems..only with cubes, though. I'll keep you posted

spacecake · 07-02-08, 15:24

Good luck...!

I never used so much straw myself,so I'm curious on the end result from this one...!
Hopefully it will be a suprizing one..who nows...?!

Mr. Clean · 07-02-08, 15:50

Thanks, Space. SWIM will be mixing up several more trays today, with different ratios of straw/poo. Hopefully, they will all perform equally as well. We'll see

Mr. Clean · 07-03-08, 18:55

No pics atm, but SWIM has got some massive overlay on his Pan Trops "mini-tray."

It looks like mycelium is poking though about 80% of the casing layer. From what I've heard, this is no good. What are some of the main reasons people get overlay? Is there anything one can do to fix it?

Any input would be greatly appreciated!

Mr. Clean · 07-03-08, 21:00

bump..?

Hippie3 · 07-03-08, 21:20

i doubt you have true overlay, pan mycellia is rather whispy for that,
got a recent pic ?

Mr. Clean · 07-03-08, 21:38

Well Hip, now that you mention it..perhaps it isn't true overlay. After taking a closer look, SWIM can see that the 80% of the "colonized" area isn't completely colonized at all. The mycelia is definitely poking through the casing, but only to a small degree..It looks kinda splotchy--It's ripping through the crevices in the casing layer, but it dosen't seem to want to colonize it entirely. I'll try to get some pics up ASAP. Hopefully, SWIM is worried for nothing

Hippie3 · 07-03-08, 21:39

sounds perfect actually, time to pin

Mr. Clean · 07-03-08, 21:49

Quote:

Originally Posted by Hippie3

sounds perfect actually, time to pin

sweet

thanx, man. at about what temperature would you say pans perform best in? it's just about 75f in the main fruiting area, in which many cubie grows have flushed succesfully. SWIM is wondering whether or not he should re-locate the FC to a warmer location to accommodate the pans.

Foster · 07-03-08, 22:11

Fme, overlay isnt a problem with pans so much. Lookin good there! You shall have pins in no time at all

Hippie3 · 07-03-08, 22:15

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mr. Clean

... at about what temperature would you say pans perform best in? it's just about 75f in the main fruiting area, in which many cubie grows have flushed succesfully. SWIM is wondering whether or not he should re-locate the FC to a warmer location to accommodate the pans.

Quote:

Pans like it a bit warmer then cubs:
incubation & spawn run - 79-84°F
Cropping - 75-80° F with relative humidity @ 85-92%

Mr. Clean · 07-07-08, 23:26

This morning, I woke up to a pleasant surprise. The Pan Trops "mini-tray" was covered in tiny pins, which in several hours have nearly tripled in size. They are now about 2 cm tall. Man, pans are fast!!

I'm still surprised how easy these were compared to cubies. I didn't alter my FC parameters at all, and they seem to be doing just fine. I'm not at the end of the tunnel, yet..But, I have a pretty good feeling about these guys..

mycobri · 07-07-08, 23:32

nice job

Mr. Clean · 07-08-08, 00:26

Thanks Mycobri

About how many days from pins to picking for Pan Trops?

spacecake · 07-08-08, 13:39

It's looking very good...!
Nicely devided pinset !

Mr. Clean · 07-08-08, 22:39

The same Pan Trops "mini-tray" about 24 hours later..All I can say is, "wow.."

Anybody know when I should pick these guys? I noticed there is no veil, like w/cubies..

feralronin · 07-08-08, 22:52

wait for the caps to flatten out a bit, you'll know when its pickin time when you notice spores on the stems. great looking haul you have there. gotta try that strain sometime.

Mr. Clean · 07-08-08, 23:03

Quote:

Originally Posted by feralronin

great looking haul you have there. gotta try that strain sometime.

Yeah, I was very surprised by the abundance of pins..Not bad for multispore

Freaky · 07-08-08, 23:24

Those are great!!!!! Pan~Tastic!!!!!

feralronin · 07-08-08, 23:36

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mr. Clean

Yeah, I was very surprised by the abundance of pins..Not bad for multispore

No doubt about that. I have to say that after working with cubes for about 6 months, pans are so mystical looking. Frail, unusual, and they fruit so quickly once in the fc.
I have a few pints and found one growing on the side, not from the casing, from the side, invitro like. Talk about weird looking.

Have you tried pans before?

Mr. Clean · 07-09-08, 14:38

This is FOAF first try w/Pans Feral..I'm with ya on the mystical-looking part

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06-30-08, 20:24	#1 (permalink)
Mr. Clean Mycotopiate Join Date: May 2008 Posts: 345	Pan Trops on Straw/Poo SWIM knocked up six 1/2 pints of corn with a Paneoleous Tropicalis syringe on 6/22. In eight days, all but one of the jars have reached 100% colonization.. SWIM spawned one of the 1/2 pints to an equal amount of pasteurized straw/horse poo, then placed in the incubator on 6/29. Having no prior experience with Pans, (or dung) he wanted to keep things small for his first attempt. After about 24 hours, the myc has recovered and is now starting to rip through the straw/poo nicely. SWIM is wondering when he should apply a casing layer to this "mini-tray." I reckon he should wait until 100% colonization? I'm not sure if straw/poo is supposed to be completely covered in mycelium before casing, though I'd figure as much..How do things look as of right now? Any and all input on the project at this point would be greatly appreciated!! Keep it clean, Mr. Clean P.S. The apparent purple-hue of the substrate is an illusion!! I believe the camera was to blame Attached Thumbnails __________________ "And if you gaze for long into an abyss, the abyss gazes also into you."

06-30-08, 20:32	#2 (permalink)
livewire420 VIP Member Join Date: Aug 2007 Posts: 2,241	looking good __________________ lw420's guide to great fungi grow info

06-30-08, 20:58	#3 (permalink)
Mr. Clean Mycotopiate Join Date: May 2008 Posts: 345	Thanks. Any ideas on when SWIM should apply his casing layer? __________________ "And if you gaze for long into an abyss, the abyss gazes also into you."

06-30-08, 21:08	#5 (permalink)
Hippie3 Admin Join Date: Feb 2001 Posts: 36,331	yeah, looks great. __________________ GROW SUPPLIES: www.Mycrotopia.com ------------Simply The Best------------ Namaste Temet Nosce

06-30-08, 21:07	#4 (permalink)
golly modapotato Join Date: Oct 2005 Posts: 5,670	Almost there ,mebbe another day to case...Looks good...

06-30-08, 21:21	#6 (permalink)
Mr. Clean Mycotopiate Join Date: May 2008 Posts: 345	Thanks, y'all. SWIM is very excited about his first Panaeolus. Takes him back to the first cube grows Gotta love the feeling of exploring new "territory!" Updates soon. __________________ "And if you gaze for long into an abyss, the abyss gazes also into you."

07-01-08, 21:31	#7 (permalink)
Mr. Clean Mycotopiate Join Date: May 2008 Posts: 345	update This morning, the Pan Trops "mini-tray" looked like this: http://forums.mycotopia.net/attachme...1&d=1214963963 Now, it looks something like this http://forums.mycotopia.net/attachme...1&d=1214963963 SWIM will probably incubate for another day or two, before throwing it in the FC. Hopefully, things work out according to plan. Updates soon!! __________________ "And if you gaze for long into an abyss, the abyss gazes also into you." Last edited by eatyualive : 07-01-08 at 22:29. Reason: big pics

07-01-08, 21:34	#8 (permalink)
Mr. Clean Mycotopiate Join Date: May 2008 Posts: 345	Can someone please help me with the image uploader..I've been having to embed off-site images lately-When I try to upload more then 4, it crashes. What am I doing wrong? Also, how in the hell do I resize embedded images?! __________________ "And if you gaze for long into an abyss, the abyss gazes also into you."

07-01-08, 22:27	#9 (permalink)
eatyualive LookIntoYourMind Join Date: Jan 2006 Posts: 2,840	resize the images using photoshop or photo editing software. ill upload your pics.. when you login, try putting a check mark in the remember me box and see if that solves your problem. ive had that happen as well. most likely what happened was that your pictures are too large to upload on site. there is a limit. try downsizing your photos to email size on your camera. it should have an option in the menu. personally, i tend to be a little skeptical to case anything that isn't 100% colonized. i know pan mycelia will run through it but it has caused me problems in the past. keep your eyes open if anything looks strange. Attached Thumbnails __________________ Simplicity Rules! Anything this user posts is not reality. It is an illusion. Optical lenses are quite impressive these days.

07-02-08, 15:24	#11 (permalink)
spacecake Universal Mod Join Date: May 1972 Posts: 3,806	Good luck...! I never used so much straw myself,so I'm curious on the end result from this one...! Hopefully it will be a suprizing one..who nows...?! __________________ Neurologic

07-02-08, 15:50	#12 (permalink)
Mr. Clean Mycotopiate Join Date: May 2008 Posts: 345	Thanks, Space. SWIM will be mixing up several more trays today, with different ratios of straw/poo. Hopefully, they will all perform equally as well. We'll see __________________ "And if you gaze for long into an abyss, the abyss gazes also into you."

07-03-08, 18:55	#13 (permalink)
Mr. Clean Mycotopiate Join Date: May 2008 Posts: 345	Shit! No pics atm, but SWIM has got some massive overlay on his Pan Trops "mini-tray." It looks like mycelium is poking though about 80% of the casing layer. From what I've heard, this is no good. What are some of the main reasons people get overlay? Is there anything one can do to fix it? Any input would be greatly appreciated! __________________ "And if you gaze for long into an abyss, the abyss gazes also into you."

07-03-08, 21:00	#14 (permalink)
Mr. Clean Mycotopiate Join Date: May 2008 Posts: 345	bump..? __________________ "And if you gaze for long into an abyss, the abyss gazes also into you."

07-03-08, 21:20	#15 (permalink)
Hippie3 Admin Join Date: Feb 2001 Posts: 36,331	i doubt you have true overlay, pan mycellia is rather whispy for that, got a recent pic ? __________________ GROW SUPPLIES: www.Mycrotopia.com ------------Simply The Best------------ Namaste Temet Nosce

07-03-08, 21:38	#16 (permalink)
Mr. Clean Mycotopiate Join Date: May 2008 Posts: 345	Well Hip, now that you mention it..perhaps it isn't true overlay. After taking a closer look, SWIM can see that the 80% of the "colonized" area isn't completely colonized at all. The mycelia is definitely poking through the casing, but only to a small degree..It looks kinda splotchy--It's ripping through the crevices in the casing layer, but it dosen't seem to want to colonize it entirely. I'll try to get some pics up ASAP. Hopefully, SWIM is worried for nothing __________________ "And if you gaze for long into an abyss, the abyss gazes also into you."

07-03-08, 21:39	#17 (permalink)
Hippie3 Admin Join Date: Feb 2001 Posts: 36,331	sounds perfect actually, time to pin __________________ GROW SUPPLIES: www.Mycrotopia.com ------------Simply The Best------------ Namaste Temet Nosce

07-03-08, 22:11	#19 (permalink)
Foster jimisinit Join Date: Jun 2006 Posts: 1,236	Fme, overlay isnt a problem with pans so much. Lookin good there! You shall have pins in no time at all

07-07-08, 23:26	#21 (permalink)
Mr. Clean Mycotopiate Join Date: May 2008 Posts: 345	Pin Dance!! This morning, I woke up to a pleasant surprise. The Pan Trops "mini-tray" was covered in tiny pins, which in several hours have nearly tripled in size. They are now about 2 cm tall. Man, pans are fast!! I'm still surprised how easy these were compared to cubies. I didn't alter my FC parameters at all, and they seem to be doing just fine. I'm not at the end of the tunnel, yet..But, I have a pretty good feeling about these guys.. Attached Thumbnails __________________ "And if you gaze for long into an abyss, the abyss gazes also into you."

07-07-08, 23:32	#22 (permalink)
mycobri Stained Blue Join Date: Feb 2006 Posts: 2,449	nice job

07-08-08, 00:26	#23 (permalink)
Mr. Clean Mycotopiate Join Date: May 2008 Posts: 345	Thanks Mycobri About how many days from pins to picking for Pan Trops? __________________ "And if you gaze for long into an abyss, the abyss gazes also into you."

07-08-08, 13:39	#24 (permalink)
spacecake Universal Mod Join Date: May 1972 Posts: 3,806	It's looking very good...! Nicely devided pinset ! __________________ Neurologic

07-08-08, 22:39	#25 (permalink)
Mr. Clean Mycotopiate Join Date: May 2008 Posts: 345	update The same Pan Trops "mini-tray" about 24 hours later..All I can say is, "wow.." Anybody know when I should pick these guys? I noticed there is no veil, like w/cubies.. Attached Thumbnails __________________ "And if you gaze for long into an abyss, the abyss gazes also into you."

07-08-08, 22:52	#26 (permalink)
feralronin ... Join Date: Nov 2007 Posts: 732	wait for the caps to flatten out a bit, you'll know when its pickin time when you notice spores on the stems. great looking haul you have there. gotta try that strain sometime.

07-08-08, 23:24	#28 (permalink)
Freaky Magik Mod Join Date: Jul 2004 Posts: 2,518	Those are great!!!!! Pan~Tastic!!!!! __________________ Get On The Good Foot

07-09-08, 14:38	#30 (permalink)
Mr. Clean Mycotopiate Join Date: May 2008 Posts: 345	This is FOAF first try w/Pans Feral..I'm with ya on the mystical-looking part