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| Mycophage Join Date: Dec 2007
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![]() | anyone ever 100% perfect? Are any of you or do you know of anyone that is ever 100% contam-free and fruit filled? Consistently having no contam'd substrate, stalled jars, etc..
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| I SELL HOSE Join Date: May 2008
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![]() ![]() | I am 100% contaminated since my only attempt ended with the big green trich monster.Does that count? ![]()
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| El Jardinero Join Date: Apr 2007
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![]() ![]() | As in, no contaminated grows......ever? Well if someone answers yes They should be playing their local lottery. Odds against that happening are beyond astronimical. I've made a couple of open air transfers that went on to colonize and fruit. But it seems that everything contaminates eventually. |
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| Hydro by day,Myc by night Join Date: Mar 2008
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![]() | I noc'd up 4 jars once and was in a big hurry and I wasn't careful and they all were contaminated. I noc'd up 20 or so jars with a bad LC and they all were contaminated (coulda prevented that with a simple test jar). Other than that I have never had a contam. Both of those were easily avoidable, then I could say "YES I'M 100% PERFECT!!!!!!!!!"
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| Mycophage Join Date: Dec 2007
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![]() | haha right on, well i hope after a while my track record is as good as some of your's
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| Mycophage Join Date: Jan 2008
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![]() | I would say I have a 95% success rate and have had very few problems with contam's...but I have also spent thousands of dollars on equipment to help fight contams...all in all its worth it in my opinion...
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| Mycotopiate Join Date: May 2008
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![]() | i have about 95% success rate, and i've messed w/popcorn, cloning, g2g, and wheat grain. never owned a pc, or flow hood. being careful is the key for me.
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| Mycotopiate Join Date: Oct 2006
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![]() ![]() ![]() | i have had my fair share of contamination but i did go 4-5 months balls to the wall growing with no contams, no stalls, and oodles upon oodles of fruits. then i tried rye berries and ive been growing 50% funk ever since.
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| herding kittens Join Date: Dec 2007
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![]() ![]() | I have a theory.. that extended mycological activity in an environment has a tendency to make that environment more contam-infested with time unless great care and periodic death-spraying is going on, and that up to the point of "oh, shit! EVERYTHING is bad!" few contams are seen.... Then you screw up and open a sporulating trich house, and it all starts going downhill fast... So you learn better technique and the house smells like Steriphene or bleach for a day (and you're popping for dinner out for you and the better half while the odor clears...) Just my .02. Your mileage probably sucks too. Catdaddy
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| Mycotopiate Join Date: Feb 1970
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![]() | I agree ...I get about 95% myself. But have gone through spells where I cant get a single jar not to mold up. When I mean spells, I mean 2 or 3 weeks of cleaning and refilling jars daily. I used to do 72 jars at a time. Thats alot of time and money for failure. But I learned something new everytime. Patience was key for me, just taking that extra few minutes was all worth while.
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| Prone to ranting... Join Date: Oct 2005
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![]() | Nobody gets perfect results. BUT, everybody gets better results the longer they pursue the hobby.
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| Admin Join Date: Feb 2001
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![]() | i'd tend to agree with your theory
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| Mycophiliac Join Date: Apr 2008
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![]() | Ive been lucky enough so far, the only problem Ive had with contams is when I left a few filled jars out without sterilizing them, neglect from lack of sleep that night... Other than that in 2 tries Ive had 100% contam free until after about 5th flush, jars and all. Oh and I had a couple not colonize at all, could have just been the LC clone wasnt good. |
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| old hand Join Date: Mar 1970
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![]() | Just last night I looked at a project that was absolutely perfect up till casing and it had a small spot of mold on the casing's surface. I nearly dropped dead! I swear I nearly scooped that tub up and threw it off the porch into the driveway. Followed up with a Hogan style leg drop off of the porch railing on top of that bastard. Anything can happen and does so when the time or conditions are right for it to.
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| Embrace Your Damage Join Date: Dec 2005
Posts: 2,958
![]() ![]() | 100% success during a given grow is my norm, but occasionally I get the funk like everybody else. I minimize it by rigorous cleaning practices and making redundant cultures and spawn masters, plus I've learned to detect very faint odors that warn of contamination and to look at each jar I'll be using as spawn really really closely and erring on the side of tossing them. If a single half-pint jar out of 12 contaminates and they are the only things growing at the time, I can detect it the moment I open the door to the room and sniff the air. I don't wait around for it to get worse; when a contam shows up we need to jump on it immediately. Not doing so is one of the main reasons why people notice contam rates getting worse over time. I bleach-mop the walls, ceiling, windows, and floor of my room between each and every grow. I have a UV air sterilizer in my HVAC duct, and another in the room itself. I use a dehumidifier to keep my house rH at 40-45% max. I never wear shoes that were worn outside into my grow room. If I'm in a hurry for some reason I'll slip plastic grocery bags over my shoes and stuff the bags into my socks to hold them on. I always shower and put on clean clothes before doing any myco work (except harvesting 2nd and subsequent flushes; at that point they're pretty resilient and I can just put bags over my shoes, run in and harvest a flush, then get back to work before the end of lunch hour).
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| old hand Join Date: Mar 1970
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![]() | Huh. That tub I was griping about above did something that I should share to prevent you guys from doing the same thing. The foil level was more or less even with the substrate. So when I cased the tub the substrate had started to shrink away from the sides of the tub, taking the foil with it. Cheap foil will stick to the substrate as it shrinks up. So when I cased it some of the casing soil had gotten in between the foil and the tub. It contaminated just sitting there and had crawled up to the surface where it was visible. I just found another spot and was like, WTF'n hell! That's impossible! That's what happened and I believe I caught and cleaned it up in time. Substrate and the casing material looks nice still. Black tubs here I come! I hate messing with foil and trash bags any damn ways.
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| Mycophiliac Join Date: Jul 1972
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![]() | I used to have great luck, then I swear I got some bunk spores. Took forever to colonize and fruiting sucked. I now get trich from time to time where I NEVER had it before. I used to wonder why everyone was having problems and I was not. Hopefully I'll have some better luck with some newer prints. |
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| LookIntoYourMind Join Date: Jan 2006
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![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | perfection is a relative term. perfection to me is someone who gets contams. but learns to deal with them...when it comes to cultivation. im sure even the most sterile labs out there get contams. its just a matter of keeping under a few percentile. but its part of the process, and its another thing to learn about. so, really we need contamination to teach us to prevent it..
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| Just a Stoner Join Date: Aug 2007
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![]() ![]() ![]() | I was at 100% until today, when I took the cakes I had dunking outta the store bought container they were in. They had a strong smell to them. Weird kinda smelled like alcohol or something. Whatever it was I didnt wait to find out, because nothing ever had a smell other than the norm. So to the trash they went. I normally clean the containers from the store with a bleach solution however with this one I didnt, idk if there was something on it, but it def smelled weird to me.
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| Mycotopiate Join Date: Apr 1971
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![]() | If you are working from multispore, then you cannot reasonably expect 100%. Working from isolates, doing grain transfers, ect...100% should be your goal and can be achieved with practice.
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| CHEERS Join Date: Dec 2006
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![]() | I agree with your theory catdaddy. More activity in one area eventually requires some death sprays as you call them, a thorough cleaning.
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