pe,no casing layer, large lumps=huge caps

[mushhut]

I did a pe bulk, well small bulk grow. I've got a ton of clusters. And huge lumps coming outa lumps. These huge caps have tiny stems, and there tipping over. I've growen pe before but never seen this. Is this do to no casing layer? If I can get looky to help me post some pics ill get them posted. Any sugestions on why me pe is doing this.

[Lookyhere]

You know it, send em through.

[mushhut]

Originally Posted by Lookyhere

You know it, send em through.

That's always bro. I got treats for ya for all your help just pm me.

[Lookyhere]

Really man it's no problem, anytime.

[Lookyhere]

Livewire said this

the balls work just as good as the others just pluck em and dry em.

On Scanmans' thread http://forums.mycotopia.net/photo-ga...-pe-clone.html (PE Clone) However, that doesn't answer your question.

[mushhut]

I've had a lot of grows (Only one other with pe) never did I have fruits look like this. What's the deal? So far every bump has started to come up and look like a shroom. Some of these large lumps are conected to 3 or 4 other large lumps. WOW!!! I know its a bit early to tell but does anybody think these large shrooms in the clusters are a good canidate for a clone?

Thanks again looky for posting my pics!!!

[Lookyhere]

It's still pretty early to tell. Have to wait and see how they grow out. If you get a huge one in a nice cluster that would be a good one to clone. Also, if you can get one to print, that would definitely be a good one to clone. They are HARD to print... I know you did, but they are hard. I read a shitload more things on how difficult they are to print today. In fact did you read this....

Hippie said

for PE
that is a great looking print!
http://forums.mycotopia.net/attachme...clone-troy.jpg
BUT
don't think it's PE, proly PE6 instead.
PE prints all have a very distinctive shape. The empty center of the print is the diameter of the stem where it attaches to the cap and in PE is large in proportion to the spore bearing area which is merely a relative thin ring. If you look at a PE cap you can see how the print should look.
your print has a very small center indicating a thin stem at the point of attachment to the cap. Very un-PE-like.

and then he said this.

i don't know which sponsor but that is
either
a] pe6
or
b] a pe syringe 'contam'd' with non-pe cubie spores.
while some of your caps are very pe-like
some are totally un-pe-like.
http://forums.mycotopia.net/attachme...e-troy-066.jpg
for example
here's one of both types in a single pic-
http://forums.mycotopia.net/attachme...e-troy-067.jpg
only pe6 does that, to my knowledge.

If you were able to print them without difficulty and they opened and stuff the chances are that you have PE6 (even though it was labeled PE) Look at this thread again and see if your fruits looked like this. http://forums.mycotopia.net/photo-ga...tml#post557716 (PE Clone)

Go to search, then go advanced, then type Penis Envy and click right below it 'titles only'. There should be 20 threads I believe. On there , there are a lot of things talking about how difficult they are to get a print.

There's not many people on right now, you may have to wait till tomorrow for someone to respond to your questions.

[mushhut]

Ill take a pic of the print I got from my last grow and get it to you. It in my fridge some where but ill get a pic 2morw. The print was very thin and like I said in another thread, I think it was my 3rd or 4th flush I got my print from. The others attemps were very light and thin prints, prints not worthy of an attempt of spore syringe.

[Lookyhere]

Oh ok, then you probably have PE. I was just going to say that if it looked like that print that scanman got then maybe the people gave you PE6. That sounds right then, nevermind. Try to clone one that you can get a print from.

[mushhut]

Today looking at the shrooms the large lumps got larger, some of the large lumps have very small stems. There is one cap that has no stem, its only attached to another cap. Very weird. I've only seen this when chemicals are used in or near the grow area but no chemicals were used newhere near this grow area. Anybody else have this happen with pe? Any Ideas on why the look like this?
Out of this tub I have only one cluster that looks like great all good looking shrooms. Just haven't seen nething like this.

[scanman]

them look like my pe clone.

[mushhut]

Yea looks like thoes. Mine were ms to honey lc to rye berries spawn to verm cpoo/compost. How do I tell when there ready to pick? Were they good eating? How did the 2nd flush turn out? I see if I can get looky to get a pic up for me later 2night.
Great thanks to looky for all the help. If there were a topia member of the year I have to say looky would win.

[livewire420]

i dont know what causes it but if i was you i would clone a nice looking fruit and go with it. scan is that from your clone or ms?

[mushhut]

I think scan said that's from a clone livewire. Any thoughts which fruit to clone. Should I clone the lumps or a regular looking fruit. The lumps remind me of stones that are growin from p atlantas.
I get a pic of what they look like today.

[scanman]

thats from my clone.ive got a pic from today ill post it for you.i picked off most the balls because they just got bigger.The first 2 are from the same casing but the 3rd is from another casing that started to show what i thought was pins but most of them are balls.

[mushhut]

Sand how did you do your clone? My pe that looked like this came from my lc. Think it has somthing to do with pe/lc?

[scanman]

i just peeled the outside off and got a piece of tissue on the inside and put that in my no-pc lc i had ready for it.

[livewire420]

you can do it a few different ways but all must be sterile

all include glovebox. when doing this make sure to use lysol in the glovebox. alcohol on the tweezers and flame sterilize tweezers or syringe.

1. tear down middle use a pair of sterile tweezers to pull out tissue. drop in presterilized lc.
2. 9er tek-http://archives.mycotopia.net/discus...tml?1004627146
3. feds tek-http://forums.mycotopia.net/holding-...n-dummies.html
4. creamcorn tek-http://www.shroomery.org/forums/show...874305#5874305

[mushhut]

These things got home from work and these things got huge. I don't think im going to clone any of these even though I got some great clusters. Ill try to get some help getting pics up. Anybody out there know what happened to these guys? Is it lc that's causeing these mutations? I know im not the only one with this problem from the pics of the clone above and both of us used lc.

I don't want to rely on other users to post pics for me but posting pics has been a problem here, my additional options won't come up at all no mater what I do. I've tried everything in user cp. At one point I could post pics but now nothing in additional options will come up. Can I get some help?

[Lookyhere]

Here ya go. Maybe if you post on testing formatting, maybe someone can try and help with uploading pictures?

[Lookyhere]

There's some nice fattys there. Weird how you get those puffballs. Kinda cool. I wonder why they do that. Is it a humidity thing? Are the solid and dense?

[mushhut]

I don't think its a humidity thing. Humidity has been 85 to 95%. And yes they are very solid. Almost 200g wet. We'll have to see how the 2nd flush comes in. Ill let you know dry weight in the next day or 2. There are some really crazy looking shrooms. Don't know what the deal is with these guys.

[Freaky]

Air exchange is important for the PE strain I've found. The genetics of the PE's can cause lots of funky looking shrooms.

Maybe the next flush will put out some bigger fruits for you.

[scanman]

them balls look like my pe clones.they had a bunch of balls on them.these pics are of two different casings i have of clones.the first is of the balls i just picked today,the second one is of a casing that i have allready picked the balls off the otherday.

[mushhut]

Scan is that your first flush? Mine look just like yours. Scan have you tried any of those? I see your useing a casing layer and I didn't, so the funky fruits isn't caused by lack of casing layer. I did fae regularly. Humidity is good. Like freaky said prob do to genatics. We'll see what happens with the 2nd flush.

[scanman]

Originally Posted by mushhut

Scan is that your first flush? Mine look just like yours. Scan have you tried any of those? I see your useing a casing layer and I didn't, so the funky fruits isn't caused by lack of casing layer. I did fae regularly. Humidity is good. Like freaky said prob do to genatics. We'll see what happens with the 2nd flush.

yes its my first flush.no,but a friend did,he hasnt said nothing about them being no good.i personly fan my tubs 3 times a day.Im like you,hopefully the 2nd flush will be better.

[mushhut]

May the mushie gods be with you. Keep us posted on this thread with your grow. I don't mind shareing this thread. Its kinda funny that were in 2 diff parts of the world but having the exact same grows with the same strain.
Im still thinking the mutations have somthing to do with the lc that was used. Anybody else have any issues with the pe strain when using lc?
Good luck scan on flush 2!!!

[jay9]

omg those look so intresting i cant wait to get started on something like that

[BuckarooBanzai]

PE is a funky shroom. Workman once mentioned he thought it might have a genetic disease of some kind.

Don't throw those balls away! They trip nice. And if you are gonna eat a penis, you might as well eat it's balls too...

[mushhut]

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