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    Old 07-24-08, 19:40   #1 (permalink)
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    Unhappy Can you tell me what strain this is?

    Can you tell me what strain this is?

    I use to have 5-6 different strains that got mixed up.......over time I only had this one strain left..............I know it is a cube, but I do not know what strain......

    I know I used to have:

    hawaiian
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    B+
    and a couple more that I can not remember...........

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    Old 07-24-08, 22:02   #2 (permalink)
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    I am almost certain they are cubensis.

    Seriously, it is virtually impossible to tell strains from eyeballing them. Environment can play a huge impact on how they grow out.

    Nice grow, regardless!
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    Old 07-24-08, 22:12   #3 (permalink)
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    I am almost certain they are cubensis.

    Seriously, it is virtually impossible to tell strains from eyeballing them. Environment can play a huge impact on how they grow out.

    Nice grow, regardless!
    Agreed 100%- those are nice mushrooms.
    No-name bastards, but I'm sure they'll work just fine!
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    Old 07-25-08, 04:54   #4 (permalink)
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    Thanks guys, I got a about 1/4 lb (dry weight) out of this box in two flushes...........

    It is still working on the third flush.................
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    Old 08-14-08, 02:28   #5 (permalink)
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    Thanks guys, I got a about 1/4 lb (dry weight) out of this box in two flushes...........

    It is still working on the third flush.................
    Damn! I am on the 5th flush now and still pulling out some monsters!
    Is this normal or did I just get lucky to get this many flushes?
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    Old 08-14-08, 02:48   #6 (permalink)
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    I am almost certain they are cubensis.
    This may help, may not. Check Ralphsters, he has pictures of all the strains and you can try and figure out all the strains that you did have and then start eliminating them strain by strain and at least narrow it down. The if you get down to 2 or 3 strains, maybe the people here can eliminate some of those.

    Very nice looking BTW.
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    Old 08-14-08, 02:54   #7 (permalink)
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    dont 99% of cubes look the same ? i have grown cubes a few times almost evertime they were pf classic but every single grow looked differnt, areent theey all differnt all the time ?
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    Old 08-14-08, 02:58   #8 (permalink)
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    No, there are differences from strain to strain that are repeatedly seen. Some for example have a nipple on top. Some have solid stems. There are different characteristics for different strains and they can vary quite a bit. The B+ that I just grew, I have taken a bunch of prints. I can grow them in 3 years or whatever and they will all look like the B+ that I just grew. Look at the Ralphsters site and you will see differences in their looks and their descriptions.
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    Old 08-14-08, 03:19   #9 (permalink)
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    i feel that is just hyp imo / experience every grow i have is differnt with cubes. (not pans) even if its the same strain. even flush to flush has differnces,even one side of a tub from the other.i feel differnt substrains make it impossible to id
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    Old 08-14-08, 03:37   #10 (permalink)
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    Dunno. I have grown 1 strain different generations, from different prints, casings, cakes, outside, inside, and they all looked the same. I guarantee that it is not all hype. If you get a strain that is supposed to have a nipple it will have a nipple. If you get a strain that is supposed to have a solid stem as apposed to a hollow stem or vise versa that's what you will get. If you get Penis Envy it will look like a cock, otherwise it's not PE. If there weren't any differences between strains in appearances then that would have been called out a long time ago and vets that have been growing for years and years wouldn't be collecting different strains. Lots of cubes do look very similar, but there are subtle differences in their genetics that stick with the strain.

    If you show me a tex and a B+ I guarantee I will be able to tell you which is which every time.
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    Old 08-14-08, 08:47   #11 (permalink)
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    I think Taz,..maybe Haw,..I think defenitly not b+
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    Old 08-14-08, 11:48   #12 (permalink)
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    Dunno. I have grown 1 strain different generations, from different prints, casings, cakes, outside, inside, and they all looked the same. I guarantee that it is not all hype. If you get a strain that is supposed to have a nipple it will have a nipple. If you get a strain that is supposed to have a solid stem as apposed to a hollow stem or vise versa that's what you will get. If you get Penis Envy it will look like a cock, otherwise it's not PE. If there weren't any differences between strains in appearances then that would have been called out a long time ago and vets that have been growing for years and years wouldn't be collecting different strains. Lots of cubes do look very similar, but there are subtle differences in their genetics that stick with the strain.

    If you show me a tex and a B+ I guarantee I will be able to tell you which is which every time.
    i i don't want to argue with pros here but i think you are being close minded i have not experienced anything like every shroom being the same. what is the difference between the shrooms growing in pasture johns farm then the ones down the road at pasture Jim's farm-- there's no difference but i would still want both. i could put of dozens of pics of cubes and with the exception of like 3-5 strains you would have no clue what i put up. even if its texas and b+
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    Old 08-14-08, 12:02   #13 (permalink)
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    was mexi pal one of the ones you had?
    b/c those fluffy "socks" as i call them at the bottom of each stem are a rather distinguishing trait for that strain IME. the number of fruits and size seems consistant with that strain too...
    if it ain't palanque i don't know man.
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    as for the discussion on all cubies looking a like, i have to agree with lookyhere, A LOT of them do look very similar, but i can pick a picture of tex, PF albino, or PE out of a line up of 10 pics every time, they are very distinguished in their appearance. there are a few others out there that have their own little quirks like mex pal's "socks" or PFC's high abort rate and fat stems. but other then those i find it almost impossible to tell and EQ from an SA from a Taz from a PR, etc..
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    IMO the fourth picture those to me resemble the Hawiian. But, I'm not sure either. Great job by the way dr. micology. http://archives.mycotopia.net/discus...tml?1066057836 maybe these pictures would help.
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    but i can pick a picture of tex, PF albino, or PE out of a line up of 10 pics every time, they are very distinguished in their appearance.
    i would hope everyone could tell those apart it dosnt make my statment any less tru all cubes, with a small exception can never ever be identified by pictures... even if your the one growning it and you mix you syrnges up ten you will never know what is what, you can guess but you will never know
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    I think Taz,..maybe Haw,..I think defenitly not b+
    I didn't say B+ and ten different strains, but if it were between Tex and B+ I could definitely tell you what was what.
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    was mexi pal one of the ones you had?
    b/c those fluffy "socks" as i call them at the bottom of each stem are a rather distinguishing trait for that strain IME. the number of fruits and size seems consistant with that strain too...
    if it ain't palanque i don't know man.
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    as for the discussion on all cubies looking a like, i have to agree with lookyhere, A LOT of them do look very similar, but i can pick a picture of tex, PF albino, or PE out of a line up of 10 pics every time, they are very distinguished in their appearance. there are a few others out there that have their own little quirks like mex pal's "socks" or PFC's high abort rate and fat stems. but other then those i find it almost impossible to tell and EQ from an SA from a Taz from a PR, etc..
    I agree with this, im doing mexi pal RIGHT NOW and they look identical


    however, without a scope, no one can tell for certain, and a SEM at that!

    a cube is a cube, with the exception of varietal hybrids.
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    I didn't say B+ and ten different strains, but if it were between Tex and B+ I could definitely tell you what was what.
    I was talking aboud the pictures not your reply Lookyhere...
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    Old 08-14-08, 16:22   #19 (permalink)
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    I have had several p.m.'s asking me what substrate/method I used so here it is:

    1. Vermiculite

    2. Colinized Birdseed Or Pop Corn (I always use both with this hobby)

    3. Casing Layer Of 50/50 Vermiculite & Peat moss

    These three layers are put in a 8in x 8in baking tray..........I was able to fit 14 of these in the grow box........................
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    i would hope everyone could tell those apart it dosnt make my statment any less tru all cubes, with a small exception can never ever be identified by pictures... even if your the one growning it and you mix you syrnges up ten you will never know what is what, you can guess but you will never know
    my point was that mexi pal is another one that falls in this categorize. those fuzzy bottoms are VERY consistent with that strain, and as far as i've seen rather rare in any other strains out there. and they are rather prolific fruiters often fruiting in high numbers, but the fruits tend to be on the smaller size, but not as short and cap heavy as the tex.

    so Dr. was mexi palanque one of the strains you had?
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    look at the boots n these, these aren't dry yet, but look identical, i can show dry ones too, those blue jsut like palenque also.

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