Growing both primary and secondary wood decomposers together

Williamsii · 09-18-08, 20:05

In Paul Stamets' book 'Mycelium Running' he writes that 'primary, secondary, and tertiary decomposers can all coexist in one location (Stamets, 2005: p.19).'

Would it then be an efficient use of substrate to grow say Psilocybe azurescens along with Psilocybe villarrealii?

I would have thought this would work well in outdoor patches where you could have different fruiting times from the same patch due to the different species’ fruiting ranges.

You could introduce the secondary decomposer once the primary decomposer is well established or simply add compost when making the patch and spawn both at the same time. The latter probably being similar.

Could you cultivate several secondary/tertiary decomposer species in the same patch?

Any thoughts, criticisms or previous experiments?

Has anybody experienced secondary/tertiary decomposers or other mushrooms fruiting from their healthy beds (not a contamination/competitor fungi)?

Skatterman420 · 09-18-08, 20:27

sounds like a good experiment too me

Myc · 09-18-08, 21:35

Never seen it and never done it.
Sounds like you've got the makings of a great experiment.
Please document your process and findings with lots of photos.
Can't wait to see your results.

Good luck!

Williamsii · 09-20-08, 09:53

Somebody proposed seeing how they act towards one another on agar. I think this might not be a valid experiment because of the liklihood that the will compete more when living of the same food source (the agar). Whereas, in an outdoor bed the secondary decomposer would break down the decomposed wood and the primary would be breaking down the fresh wood. I think this would lower the likelihood of competition. Experimentation, however, would be the only way to tell for sure.

Any othe ideas or experience?

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09-18-08, 20:05	#1 (permalink)
Williamsii Mycophiliac Join Date: Dec 2007 Posts: 15	Growing both primary and secondary wood decomposers together In Paul Stamets' book 'Mycelium Running' he writes that 'primary, secondary, and tertiary decomposers can all coexist in one location (Stamets, 2005: p.19).' Would it then be an efficient use of substrate to grow say Psilocybe azurescens along with Psilocybe villarrealii? I would have thought this would work well in outdoor patches where you could have different fruiting times from the same patch due to the different species’ fruiting ranges. You could introduce the secondary decomposer once the primary decomposer is well established or simply add compost when making the patch and spawn both at the same time. The latter probably being similar. Could you cultivate several secondary/tertiary decomposer species in the same patch? Any thoughts, criticisms or previous experiments? Has anybody experienced secondary/tertiary decomposers or other mushrooms fruiting from their healthy beds (not a contamination/competitor fungi)?

09-18-08, 20:27	#2 (permalink)
Skatterman420 I Bring You Fire. Join Date: Jun 2008 Posts: 404	sounds like a good experiment too me __________________ There is nothing more depraved and irresponsible then a man in the depths of an ether binge.

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09-18-08, 21:35	#3 (permalink)
Myc El Jardinero Join Date: Apr 2007 Posts: 1,248	Never seen it and never done it. Sounds like you've got the makings of a great experiment. Please document your process and findings with lots of photos. Can't wait to see your results. Good luck!

09-20-08, 09:53	#4 (permalink)
Williamsii Mycophiliac Join Date: Dec 2007 Posts: 15	Somebody proposed seeing how they act towards one another on agar. I think this might not be a valid experiment because of the liklihood that the will compete more when living of the same food source (the agar). Whereas, in an outdoor bed the secondary decomposer would break down the decomposed wood and the primary would be breaking down the fresh wood. I think this would lower the likelihood of competition. Experimentation, however, would be the only way to tell for sure. Any othe ideas or experience?