Help Please!! Panaeolus Cyanescens

Blaque · 09-19-08, 12:30

what up everyone? so this summer i started out on a new journey to learn how to grow Panaeolus Cyanescens, after pretty much perfected growing Cubensis (in my opinion). unfortunately, my summer was wasted due to nasty looking green mold forming every time i tried to put it in the fruiting chamber. i followed the instructions on *outsourced link removed *can anyone tell me where i went wrong? i used popcorn. or just any suggestions..

somahawk · 09-19-08, 12:40

I'm not sure where you went wrong, but you may have better luck with this tek :

http://forums.mycotopia.net/exotic-m...-cyan-tek.html (Waylit's Pan cyan Tek)

golly · 09-19-08, 14:33

Mold spores are proly getting in, when you transfer the spawn to the sterile Sub bags..
I would not use that method without a glove box or flow hood, just too risky..

Instead, i would just pasteurize the sub ,mix in the spawn and don't incubate more than 3 days @80F..

limeade · 09-19-08, 14:35

maybe following a tek from the shroomery is where u went wrong?

just kidding, you really have given no information for us to help you on.

so,

pans on what?

grain?

poop?
cakes?

details sir/mam

so popcorn was your spawn medium, pans really don't do well on popcorn. I suggest rye grain or seed...

what was your substrate?

hyphaenation · 09-19-08, 14:40

I had to remove that link ... We have excellent pan cyan grow info here. Top of the line. We can't vouch for that linked stuff. Its not in our body of work.

Thanks for being understanding on this.

http://forums.mycotopia.net/exotic-magic-mushrooms/

limeade · 09-19-08, 14:48

lollers you did the right thing, don't taint this place with bad info from that place!

there is good info there, but im finding this place is all one needs.

the archives are a freekin diamond/gold/platinum mine all wrapped in one.

golly · 09-19-08, 15:24

I left the link in Hyph ,because no one could answer the question without it..
The Tek required total sterility in transfering grain spawn to sterile myco bags and that was the weak link in the the Tek...

hyphaenation · 09-19-08, 16:19

Good enough Golly ... Thanks.

My apologies Blaque , generally we have a policy where we discourage linking to threads and teks at the Shroomery because of the reasons I listed above (and a few others) but there are exceptions. Can you post that link again for us ?

Blaque · 09-20-08, 22:19

thanks for the help!! the previous link http://www.shroomery.org/8695/Making...rate-Pictorial

so at this moment this is where i am.. suggestions on where i should be headed next please. http://forums.mycotopia.net/images/s...s/bow.gif:bow:

Blaque · 09-20-08, 23:03

Quote:

Originally Posted by hyphaenation

I had to remove that link ... We have excellent pan cyan grow info here. Top of the line. We can't vouch for that linked stuff. Its not in our body of work.

Thanks for being understanding on this.

http://forums.mycotopia.net/exotic-magic-mushrooms/

I apologize.. i love this site no disrespect.. just want to get it right

Blaque · 09-20-08, 23:08

Quote:

Originally Posted by golly

Mold spores are proly getting in, when you transfer the spawn to the sterile Sub bags..
I would not use that method without a glove box or flow hood, just too risky..

Instead, i would just pasteurize the sub ,mix in the spawn and don't incubate more than 3 days @80F..

question.. pasteurizing and sterilizing isn't the same? also, i live in south florida where its always 80 and above, do i need an incubator?

jedimindtrick44 · 09-21-08, 09:29

Pasteurizing is where you only heat it up to 160-170.F and it only kills competing growth. It leaves beneficial microbes in the substrate. this only really applies to poo and straw (maybe some other subs that im not aware of also). I don't think there are any beneficial organisms in brf or most grains.
Sterilizing is where you cook it to kill everything.

and If it's always 80, then you won't need an incubator. but make sure you incubate in a dark place.

Foster · 09-22-08, 12:05

Quote:

Originally Posted by Blaque

so at this moment this is where i am.. suggestions on where i should be headed next please.

Pasteurize you some poo, spawn the jar to it and let it colonize for a few days. Then fruit it. Give it plenty of FAE. I know that sounds kind of basic, but its really that simple

Check out the above links and Exotics in the vaults. Great info to step you through the whole process.

best of luck, Foster

Blaque · 09-24-08, 13:06

Quote:

Originally Posted by Foster

Pasteurize you some poo, spawn the jar to it and let it colonize for a few days. Then fruit it. Give it plenty of FAE. I know that sounds kind of basic, but its really that simple

Check out the above links and Exotics in the vaults. Great info to step you through the whole process.
best of luck, Foster

nice! thanks!

golly · 09-24-08, 15:01

A stiff shallow tray works great..Perforate the tinfoil cover when u incubate for 3 days ,so there is some slight air exchange..

hyphaenation · 09-24-08, 15:08

Blaque...

May the pans be with you !

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09-19-08, 12:30	#1 (permalink)
Blaque Mycophiliac Join Date: Sep 2008 Posts: 7	Help Please!! Panaeolus Cyanescens what up everyone? so this summer i started out on a new journey to learn how to grow Panaeolus Cyanescens, after pretty much perfected growing Cubensis (in my opinion). unfortunately, my summer was wasted due to nasty looking green mold forming every time i tried to put it in the fruiting chamber. i followed the instructions on outsourced link removed can anyone tell me where i went wrong? i used popcorn. or just any suggestions..

09-19-08, 14:40	#5 (permalink)
hyphaenation Moss Walker Join Date: Feb 2007 Posts: 4,046	I had to remove that link ... We have excellent pan cyan grow info here. Top of the line. We can't vouch for that linked stuff. Its not in our body of work. Thanks for being understanding on this. http://forums.mycotopia.net/exotic-magic-mushrooms/ __________________ [10:52 am] Beastmaster: thats a waste of good drugs if all you're gonna do is hide in bed afraid of shadows

09-19-08, 16:19	#8 (permalink)
hyphaenation Moss Walker Join Date: Feb 2007 Posts: 4,046	Good enough Golly ... Thanks. My apologies Blaque , generally we have a policy where we discourage linking to threads and teks at the Shroomery because of the reasons I listed above (and a few others) but there are exceptions. Can you post that link again for us ? __________________ [10:52 am] Beastmaster: thats a waste of good drugs if all you're gonna do is hide in bed afraid of shadows

09-24-08, 15:08	#16 (permalink)
hyphaenation Moss Walker Join Date: Feb 2007 Posts: 4,046	Blaque... May the pans be with you ! __________________ [10:52 am] Beastmaster: thats a waste of good drugs if all you're gonna do is hide in bed afraid of shadows

09-19-08, 12:40	#2 (permalink)
somahawk Mycophiliac Join Date: Sep 2007 Posts: 43	I'm not sure where you went wrong, but you may have better luck with this tek : http://forums.mycotopia.net/exotic-m...-cyan-tek.html (Waylit's Pan cyan Tek)

09-19-08, 14:33	#3 (permalink)
golly modapotato Join Date: Oct 2005 Posts: 5,666	Mold spores are proly getting in, when you transfer the spawn to the sterile Sub bags.. I would not use that method without a glove box or flow hood, just too risky.. Instead, i would just pasteurize the sub ,mix in the spawn and don't incubate more than 3 days @80F..

09-19-08, 14:35	#4 (permalink)
limeade Former Member Join Date: Jul 2008 Posts: 1,183	maybe following a tek from the shroomery is where u went wrong? just kidding, you really have given no information for us to help you on. so, pans on what? grain? poop? cakes? details sir/mam so popcorn was your spawn medium, pans really don't do well on popcorn. I suggest rye grain or seed... what was your substrate?

09-19-08, 14:48	#6 (permalink)
limeade Former Member Join Date: Jul 2008 Posts: 1,183	lollers you did the right thing, don't taint this place with bad info from that place! there is good info there, but im finding this place is all one needs. the archives are a freekin diamond/gold/platinum mine all wrapped in one.

09-19-08, 15:24	#7 (permalink)
golly modapotato Join Date: Oct 2005 Posts: 5,666	I left the link in Hyph ,because no one could answer the question without it.. The Tek required total sterility in transfering grain spawn to sterile myco bags and that was the weak link in the the Tek...

09-20-08, 22:19	#9 (permalink)
Blaque Mycophiliac Join Date: Sep 2008 Posts: 7	thanks for the help!! the previous link http://www.shroomery.org/8695/Making...rate-Pictorial so at this moment this is where i am.. suggestions on where i should be headed next please. http://forums.mycotopia.net/images/s...s/bow.gif:bow:

09-21-08, 09:29	#12 (permalink)
jedimindtrick44 Aspiring Mycologist Join Date: Sep 2008 Posts: 15	Pasteurizing is where you only heat it up to 160-170.F and it only kills competing growth. It leaves beneficial microbes in the substrate. this only really applies to poo and straw (maybe some other subs that im not aware of also). I don't think there are any beneficial organisms in brf or most grains. Sterilizing is where you cook it to kill everything. and If it's always 80, then you won't need an incubator. but make sure you incubate in a dark place.

09-24-08, 15:01	#15 (permalink)
golly modapotato Join Date: Oct 2005 Posts: 5,666	A stiff shallow tray works great..Perforate the tinfoil cover when u incubate for 3 days ,so there is some slight air exchange..

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