Gymnopilus not pinning

[radalien]

A while back I found some sort of gymnopilus (I think lutefolius) but my ID skills weren't very good then. I kept hoping it would come back so I could get some more info about it but that's not happened. So... Since I'd saved a spore print, I decided to see if I could grow it.

I did a liquid culture using Waylit's Woodlover's Tek and put it into a cake made using PF's Tek. 4 of 6 were successful and fully colonized the jars in about a week with dense white mycelium the density of felt. It even pushed through the dry vermeculite at the top of the jars.

The only other grow I found on gymnopilus was this one: http://forums.mycotopia.net/wild-mus...-spp-grow.html (Gymnopilus spp grow)

So. A couple of days ago, I shredded the cakes into some boiled/cooled woodchips and mixed in some vermeculite and potting soil (roughly quadrupeling the mass of the cakes) gave it some water, partially covered it with saran wrap, and set it in some shade.

In just over 1 day, the mycelium has almost completely colonized that and is lofting an inch out of the soil. I've never tried to grow mushrooms before but I get the feeling that if it's doing that, it's not going to fruit. So.. any ideas how to fix it?

Attached are some pictures taken ~30hrs after cake was put in the soil/woodchip mixture.

The other 3 cakes were put into a couple of different wild woodchip areas similar to where the original fruit was found. Have not yet gone and checked their progress.

[Myc]

Don't give up on that culture.
Many species will not fruit from sterile PF cakes
They need microbial activity to assist in fruiting
By adding potting soil and non-sterilized substrate you might get to see some action soon.
Ps. weilii behaves in the manner which you are describing
Give it some time.
If the substrate gets overlay, simply scratch it gently with a clean fork so the substrate can take on water when you mist it.

[radalien]

After reading the definition of overlay, it sounds like maybe I should also try removing the plastic wrap. It's only partially covering the bin to hold in moisture but it might be holding too much or keeping in too much CO2. Does that sound reasonable?

[mycot]

Originally Posted by radalien

In just over 1 day, the mycelium has almost completely colonized that and is lofting an inch out of the soil. I've never tried to grow mushrooms before but I get the feeling that if it's doing that, it's not going to fruit. So.. any ideas how to fix it?

Ah, some patience, you want to have it fully collonise the substrate first before putting it in fruiting mode. Then decide whether to add more substate for the myc to collonise for a bigger grow or whether to put it directly into fruiting mode.
Often the surface colonises faster than the than the rest of the substrate.
Sounds like it is colonising well and there,s little need for worry.
You haven't got serious overlay and in a worst case senario lightly scratch/ruffle the surface mixing in an ultra thin layer of chips for the airial myc if neccessary which is probably better than removing the surface altogether. Add the casing layer before it gets too arial again after the scratch treatment. The myc should break through the casing more evenly than above with the myc likely to be less airial than where it will cause problems. Don;t allow it to get too airial again before putting it into fruiting/pinning mode with good fresh air exchange.About sevent-five percent surface colonisation should be about the right time.
Too much really arial gym myc I do beleive inhibits pinning to an extent because the pins which generally form at the casing surface have to struggle to break through all that extrataneous airy myc which has little potential of forming pins itself. In this case (only when it's really too much) just tear some of the really extrataneous stuff away which I actualy did on one occasion and pinning was fine afterwoods.
Good luck with your grow. I think your doing fine.

[pancyan]

i dont know if gymnopilus are wood loover or a poo or w/e but for some reason im guessing they are oot feeling the PF tek i think you should try and spawn it to something