Is fruiting possible on wheat berries alone?

seymoor · 10-17-08, 18:00

So far I worked mostly with wheat berries, and noticed that they don't fruit not even invitro if left in a lit place with invitro pinning coir cakes neighbouring them.

No pins on a tray, without a casing layer, some fruits with a casing, and good flushes with mixed in substrates (not bulk subs, I don't go below 30%spawn-70%bulk ratio)

Water content is on the lower side 50-60% but is that the only cause?

~Hippie3 · 10-17-08, 18:02

pure grain just doesn't hold enough water by itself to fruit well

Dr_T · 10-17-08, 18:21

Depends on how you define 'well', I suppose.
Multispore LC to WBS, cased with MGMC.
Four and a half flushes from that tub.

Granted, spawning to a bulk sub like poo or coir is going to give bigger, prettier flushes. But in terms of space, time and money involved, fruiting from grains is a viable option.

CoyoteMesc · 10-17-08, 19:17

Hippie was answering the question of "wheat berries alone". Meaning no casing.

Dr_T · 10-17-08, 19:25

Oh, yeah. Need a casing layer.
OP had mentioned it, I figured it was assumed.
And I've never tried *wheat* berries, though rye worked ok for me. Cased, of course.

Edit- I've had minor success with pure WBS, fruited cake-style, just popped out of the jars and put into an FC. Nothing to brag about, but a enough fruits for spores.

CoyoteMesc · 10-17-08, 19:37

i had some pinage in a jar of wbs once. I picked off what i could see and used the rest as spawn.

~Hippie3 · 10-17-08, 19:47

bingo.
it'll pin, but it'd do better cased or spawned to bulk or both

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10-17-08, 18:00	#1 (permalink)
seymoor Mycophiliac Join Date: Apr 2008 Posts: 60	Is fruiting possible on wheat berries alone? So far I worked mostly with wheat berries, and noticed that they don't fruit not even invitro if left in a lit place with invitro pinning coir cakes neighbouring them. No pins on a tray, without a casing layer, some fruits with a casing, and good flushes with mixed in substrates (not bulk subs, I don't go below 30%spawn-70%bulk ratio) Water content is on the lower side 50-60% but is that the only cause?

10-17-08, 18:21	#3 (permalink)
Dr_T Random Dude Join Date: Aug 2007 Posts: 2,078	Depends on how you define 'well', I suppose. Multispore LC to WBS, cased with MGMC. Four and a half flushes from that tub. Granted, spawning to a bulk sub like poo or coir is going to give bigger, prettier flushes. But in terms of space, time and money involved, fruiting from grains is a viable option. Attached Thumbnails

10-17-08, 19:17	#4 (permalink)
CoyoteMesc howling mad Join Date: Jan 2007 Posts: 4,087	Hippie was answering the question of "wheat berries alone". Meaning no casing. __________________ WOODY: Hey, Mr. Peterson, there's a cold one waiting for you. NORM: I know. If she calls, I'm not here.[ (Cheers)

10-17-08, 19:37	#6 (permalink)
CoyoteMesc howling mad Join Date: Jan 2007 Posts: 4,087	i had some pinage in a jar of wbs once. I picked off what i could see and used the rest as spawn. __________________ WOODY: Hey, Mr. Peterson, there's a cold one waiting for you. NORM: I know. If she calls, I'm not here.[ (Cheers)

10-17-08, 18:02	#2 (permalink)
~Hippie3 DUNG DEALER Join Date: Feb 2001 Posts: 42,765	pure grain just doesn't hold enough water by itself to fruit well

10-17-08, 19:25	#5 (permalink)
Dr_T Random Dude Join Date: Aug 2007 Posts: 2,078	Oh, yeah. Need a casing layer. OP had mentioned it, I figured it was assumed. And I've never tried wheat berries, though rye worked ok for me. Cased, of course. Edit- I've had minor success with pure WBS, fruited cake-style, just popped out of the jars and put into an FC. Nothing to brag about, but a enough fruits for spores.

10-17-08, 19:47	#7 (permalink)
~Hippie3 DUNG DEALER Join Date: Feb 2001 Posts: 42,765	bingo. it'll pin, but it'd do better cased or spawned to bulk or both

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