Wanting to make my own shiitake dowels

BuddhaIntheSky · 12-21-08, 18:17

I got a shiitake grow kit of sawdust spawn last summer, got a couple flushes before it stopped growing. I broke up the substrate after this and mixed it in with some cut alder logs and fresh sawdust outdoors last october-and now I have my first shiitakes coming up. Which is cool, but I'd like to figure out how to myceliate some dowels to put in more alder logs. I know this might be tricky though since shiitakes aren't as aggressive or easy to grow as oysters are...

I'm wondering if I can take a myceliated bit from my established outdoor area and put it in some form of growing chamber with the sterile dowels inside and let it colonize? Will this work?

Thanks

Umbo · 12-21-08, 18:55

Well you'll want to soak the dowels for
a day or two, and then PC them. Pulling
colonized chunks from your outdoor bed
might pose a risk, but if you get some nice
clean chunks, and enough of them, it would
proly work. Good luck.

lost_onabbey_rd · 12-22-08, 02:29

what i was thinking was.. take some sawdust from the outdoor patch, use that to colonize some cardboard
once that colonizes, soak some dowels and roll them up in the cardboard for a week or so
that would let them colonize pretty evenly
once they are colonized, take them out and wrap up some more dowels
assuming you kept everything moving you could probibly get a few loads of dowels done

BuddhaIntheSky · 12-22-08, 15:15

I was thinking about doing cardboard like you were saying-do I need to sterilize the cardboard?

I've just been using 1 liter plastic bottles with wet verm for my other mushroom growing projects, would this work for the cardboard and dowels as well?

What risks are posed by taking sawdust from my outdoor patch? Just other bacteria in there?

Thanks

lost_onabbey_rd · 12-22-08, 17:58

no you don't have to sterilize the cardboard
not exactly sure what you mean about the 1L bottles
just put in somewhere that will keep it moist
most wood substrates are pretty contam resistant so i don't think you'll have much trouble with contams so long as you don't try to go to some nute rich material like grain

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12-21-08, 18:17	#1 (permalink)
BuddhaIntheSky Mycophiliac Join Date: May 2008 Posts: 40	Wanting to make my own shiitake dowels I got a shiitake grow kit of sawdust spawn last summer, got a couple flushes before it stopped growing. I broke up the substrate after this and mixed it in with some cut alder logs and fresh sawdust outdoors last october-and now I have my first shiitakes coming up. Which is cool, but I'd like to figure out how to myceliate some dowels to put in more alder logs. I know this might be tricky though since shiitakes aren't as aggressive or easy to grow as oysters are... I'm wondering if I can take a myceliated bit from my established outdoor area and put it in some form of growing chamber with the sterile dowels inside and let it colonize? Will this work? Thanks

12-21-08, 18:55	#2 (permalink)
Umbo Mycology is Yourcology Join Date: May 2008 Posts: 200	Well you'll want to soak the dowels for a day or two, and then PC them. Pulling colonized chunks from your outdoor bed might pose a risk, but if you get some nice clean chunks, and enough of them, it would proly work. Good luck. __________________ Screw it. Brew it.

12-22-08, 02:29	#3 (permalink)
lost_onabbey_rd The Lost Join Date: Apr 1972 Posts: 1,756	what i was thinking was.. take some sawdust from the outdoor patch, use that to colonize some cardboard once that colonizes, soak some dowels and roll them up in the cardboard for a week or so that would let them colonize pretty evenly once they are colonized, take them out and wrap up some more dowels assuming you kept everything moving you could probibly get a few loads of dowels done __________________ Plant a seed, It will grow, So it's been, Sow the show To think outside the box, sometimes it is nessecary to step, outside the box

12-22-08, 17:58	#5 (permalink)
lost_onabbey_rd The Lost Join Date: Apr 1972 Posts: 1,756	no you don't have to sterilize the cardboard not exactly sure what you mean about the 1L bottles just put in somewhere that will keep it moist most wood substrates are pretty contam resistant so i don't think you'll have much trouble with contams so long as you don't try to go to some nute rich material like grain __________________ Plant a seed, It will grow, So it's been, Sow the show To think outside the box, sometimes it is nessecary to step, outside the box

12-22-08, 15:15	#4 (permalink)
BuddhaIntheSky Mycophiliac Join Date: May 2008 Posts: 40	I was thinking about doing cardboard like you were saying-do I need to sterilize the cardboard? I've just been using 1 liter plastic bottles with wet verm for my other mushroom growing projects, would this work for the cardboard and dowels as well? What risks are posed by taking sawdust from my outdoor patch? Just other bacteria in there? Thanks

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