Random questions about bulk, coir, verm

extrememetal43 · 01-07-09, 20:11

Arite in the process of incubating some cakes that are going to be spawned to a bulk substrate. what i got is a hpoo/straw,verm mix(45,45,10) mushroom substrate. Usually i just spawn too that but im thinking the bulk subs arent holding as much moisture as it should. Would you recomend adding vermiculate to the mix to allow it to retain more water. Can I add verm at the spawning stage? if so what sterilization procedures must I follow?

Instead of using vermiculate could i use coir instaed? It definately can hold a lot of moisture and can add some nutrients to it as well I believe. same question how do i prep it to spawn to it?

What do you guys recomend? i guess Im trying to add some water retaining abilities and add a lil bit of cheap depth to my bulk substrates?

Also, ive used a verm/coir mix for casings, which i like, but ive had a problem with the subs contaming earlier on the verm/coir than uncased. Say on the second flush instead of the third or fourth. anyone else have similar problems with coir? Perhaps because the casing doesnt fully colonize it allows contams to grow a bit then get ahold of the mycelium.

Freaky · 01-07-09, 20:22

I like to call that my "cut"

The coir or verm will add more to your bulk sub mix and aid in moisture retention.

You can add these when you pasteurize your bulk materials. Just mix in your amount of coir or verm with your bulk materials and pasteurize away.

extrememetal43 · 01-07-09, 20:30

Ha the cut

, by coincidence I have to repasteurize the bulk sub anyway! Now it does take me a while to go thru the bulk and i plan on using some now and some a month from now. will it resist contamination in storage as well as the hpoo which has no problems with contams in storage.

[Home]	[The Vaults]	[Glossary]	[Sponsors]	[Affiliates]
[Search]	Today's Posts	Mark Forums Read	[Register]	[Activate]	[Resend Email]

01-07-09, 20:11	#1 (permalink)
extrememetal43 The Jester's Mad Chemist Join Date: Apr 2008 Posts: 1,258	Random questions about bulk, coir, verm Arite in the process of incubating some cakes that are going to be spawned to a bulk substrate. what i got is a hpoo/straw,verm mix(45,45,10) mushroom substrate. Usually i just spawn too that but im thinking the bulk subs arent holding as much moisture as it should. Would you recomend adding vermiculate to the mix to allow it to retain more water. Can I add verm at the spawning stage? if so what sterilization procedures must I follow? Instead of using vermiculate could i use coir instaed? It definately can hold a lot of moisture and can add some nutrients to it as well I believe. same question how do i prep it to spawn to it? What do you guys recomend? i guess Im trying to add some water retaining abilities and add a lil bit of cheap depth to my bulk substrates? Also, ive used a verm/coir mix for casings, which i like, but ive had a problem with the subs contaming earlier on the verm/coir than uncased. Say on the second flush instead of the third or fourth. anyone else have similar problems with coir? Perhaps because the casing doesnt fully colonize it allows contams to grow a bit then get ahold of the mycelium. __________________ Your trust is in Whiskey and Weed and Black Sabbath...its Goddamn Electric

01-07-09, 20:30	#3 (permalink)
extrememetal43 The Jester's Mad Chemist Join Date: Apr 2008 Posts: 1,258	Ha the cut , by coincidence I have to repasteurize the bulk sub anyway! Now it does take me a while to go thru the bulk and i plan on using some now and some a month from now. will it resist contamination in storage as well as the hpoo which has no problems with contams in storage. __________________ Your trust is in Whiskey and Weed and Black Sabbath...its Goddamn Electric

Thread Tools
Show Printable Version Email this Page
Display Modes
Linear Mode Switch to Hybrid Mode Switch to Threaded Mode

Similar Threads
Thread	Thread Starter	Forum	Replies	Last Post
A few questions about bulk sub	M&M420	Fungi: Growing Edible Medicinal & Magic Mushrooms	5	10-26-08 19:21
Buckaroo Bulk Nugget Tek (invitro, spawn bags and/or ½ gallon jars)	BuckarooBanzai	Popcorn TEKS	47	04-26-07 00:42
coir vs. verm casing DRAMATIC PIX	BuckarooBanzai	Coir & Peat & Vermiculite	59	08-25-06 08:15
beginning to end teks for grain spawn, bulk substraits and printing	alpiner	Misc. Magic Mushroom Growing Teks	6	08-01-06 07:48
scatman's coir casing tek	Hippie3	Mushroom Casings	0	03-11-06 20:59

01-07-09, 20:22	#2 (permalink)
Freaky Magik Mod Join Date: Jul 2004 Posts: 3,253	I like to call that my "cut" The coir or verm will add more to your bulk sub mix and aid in moisture retention. You can add these when you pasteurize your bulk materials. Just mix in your amount of coir or verm with your bulk materials and pasteurize away.