Garden centre manure

Raziel · 01-13-09, 18:49

Is pre-bagged garden centre manure good to use for growing ?

hyphaenation · 01-13-09, 18:55

It's fine for the urban grower or the super-stealth. Some are better than others. Try and get cow or horse if you can.

The best is free from the source , but that's not always possible.

Bagged manure works well for the hobby.

Raziel · 01-13-09, 19:01

Thanks hyphaenation! I've seen two types at my local garden centre "farmyard manure" and "zoopoo" but niether say what kind, only says "organic manure". Im going to go for the Zoopoo I think.

mycowarrier · 01-13-09, 19:20

I recently bought some bagged manure compost [i believe it was from cow] and mixed it 50/50 with straw in bulk bags and sterilized in PC at the usual 15psi for one hour. Worked as good as any substrate i've ever used. I prefer to sterilize instead of pasterize due to the large amount of contams compost contains.
I see garden centers at Lowes are selling "mushroom compost" bags from button mushroom farms. Apparently already "spent" but may have nutrients enough for the cubies especially when combined with straw.

Hippie3 · 01-13-09, 20:47

might want to leach bagged manures first
and be sure to mix with straw or coir to lighten it up
as it's pretty dense esp. once wet

witchdr11 · 01-13-09, 22:43

I dont think you could go too overboard on the fluffiness enhancers with bagged shit. IME which is little but some..use it more as an additive if anything.

It's way too dense out of the bag generally. Rinse the hell out of it and get out all the large chunks, sticks, mud balls and anything you can to get rid of the muddy qualities.

It seems to me a large portion of medium to coarse verm and coir are called for, and straw if available.

In playing around with this it seems if you get it too dense it will take forever to colonize and will eventually contam, though bagged stuff seems to hold pretty good for some reason.

These bagged products vary alot from what I hear. I saw one the other day that actually seemed close to what is needed.

marmy · 01-13-09, 23:28

my foaf is currently using store purchased bagged compost that is manure based with spent substrate.

Mixed with wheat straw at about 70% straw to 30% compost by volume and pastreurized.

Good to go... you will have no problems

chill · 01-14-09, 21:58

composted steer manure doesn't take well to water pasteurization (it turns to mud). for this it's better to use oven pasteurization.

Hippie3 · 01-15-09, 19:43

i use steam but yeah, mud is right, gotta add plenty of fluff like straw

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01-13-09, 18:49	#1 (permalink)
Raziel We will ... live forever Join Date: May 2008 Posts: 1,530	Garden centre manure Is pre-bagged garden centre manure good to use for growing ?

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hyphaenation Puck Teknician Join Date: Feb 2007 Posts: 5,646	It's fine for the urban grower or the super-stealth. Some are better than others. Try and get cow or horse if you can. The best is free from the source , but that's not always possible. Bagged manure works well for the hobby. __________________ We're just flying by the seed of our plants.

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mycowarrier VIP Member Join Date: Oct 2008 Posts: 950	I recently bought some bagged manure compost [i believe it was from cow] and mixed it 50/50 with straw in bulk bags and sterilized in PC at the usual 15psi for one hour. Worked as good as any substrate i've ever used. I prefer to sterilize instead of pasterize due to the large amount of contams compost contains. I see garden centers at Lowes are selling "mushroom compost" bags from button mushroom farms. Apparently already "spent" but may have nutrients enough for the cubies especially when combined with straw. __________________ Everybody is entitled to my opinion

01-13-09, 20:47	#5 (permalink)
Hippie3 DUNG DEALER Join Date: Feb 2001 Posts: 43,266	might want to leach bagged manures first and be sure to mix with straw or coir to lighten it up as it's pretty dense esp. once wet __________________ visit dial-a-hippie . Last edited by Hippie3; 01-15-09 at 19:42.

01-13-09, 19:01	#3 (permalink)
Raziel We will ... live forever Join Date: May 2008 Posts: 1,530	Thanks hyphaenation! I've seen two types at my local garden centre "farmyard manure" and "zoopoo" but niether say what kind, only says "organic manure". Im going to go for the Zoopoo I think.

01-13-09, 22:43	#6 (permalink)
witchdr11 Shamanic Vibes Join Date: Nov 2007 Posts: 730	I dont think you could go too overboard on the fluffiness enhancers with bagged shit. IME which is little but some..use it more as an additive if anything. It's way too dense out of the bag generally. Rinse the hell out of it and get out all the large chunks, sticks, mud balls and anything you can to get rid of the muddy qualities. It seems to me a large portion of medium to coarse verm and coir are called for, and straw if available. In playing around with this it seems if you get it too dense it will take forever to colonize and will eventually contam, though bagged stuff seems to hold pretty good for some reason. These bagged products vary alot from what I hear. I saw one the other day that actually seemed close to what is needed. __________________ "The smoke can do anything. It will give you not only knowledge, but also the means to proceed."-Carlos Castaneda

01-13-09, 23:28	#7 (permalink)
marmy riding the roller coaster Join Date: Oct 2008 Posts: 836	my foaf is currently using store purchased bagged compost that is manure based with spent substrate. Mixed with wheat straw at about 70% straw to 30% compost by volume and pastreurized. Good to go... you will have no problems __________________ OK maybe not that old

01-14-09, 21:58	#8 (permalink)
chill celtic tiger Join Date: May 1972 Posts: 1,095	composted steer manure doesn't take well to water pasteurization (it turns to mud). for this it's better to use oven pasteurization. __________________ When the going gets wierd the wierd turn pro! Last edited by Hippie3; 01-15-09 at 19:42.

01-15-09, 19:43	#9 (permalink)
Hippie3 DUNG DEALER Join Date: Feb 2001 Posts: 43,266	i use steam but yeah, mud is right, gotta add plenty of fluff like straw __________________ visit dial-a-hippie .

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