cow manure??

potatoskill · 03-03-09, 03:15

just wondering if you can use those 2$ bags of composted cow manure that you can buy from pretty much all gardening / hardware stores in a bulk sub instead of castings...

so.. something like 1:1:1 of verm : coir : composted cow manure

would it work alright??

Sidestreet Getaway · 03-03-09, 10:19

Some specific kinds ahve been used, but most are warned against.

Better to get it from a field: dry, old, clumpy, and covered in what looks like whitish dust. That means that helpful microbes called actinomycetes are in the poo, and will work to your benefit.

Also, horse manure is better than cow.

Usually those with livestock are happy to let you cart away some manure (for your garden, of course), but if you are an urbanite, you can buy good donkey doo here: www.mycrotopia.com

dial8 · 03-03-09, 11:01

Yeah most bagged manures from the store are not the best. Blak cow comes to mind. I've used it with a little success. Small flush with small fruits. Mixing coir in with it will help if you insist on using it but try to do as sidestreet says and get some field poopoo.

marmy · 03-03-09, 12:20

The bagged manure is fine, but mix it with wheat straw... id say at least 60-70 percent by volume... use some verm too.. but I would actually pc the verm first... Coir would be cool too.

But my foaf has seen great success with the bagged compost and straw.

mestophilies · 03-03-09, 12:27

I just use year old cow poo from the field. Can't throw a stone in this area without hittin a herd of em!

chupbracabra · 03-03-09, 12:54

mestophilies, what ratio do you mix your cow poo at? and with What? thanks

mestophilies · 03-03-09, 16:15

I use coir/verm. I mix 30% coir 30% verm and the rest poo. eyeballed mix. I go a 1:1 ratio of spawn/substrate mix. I have been adding a little more verm/coir lately as the poo seems really compacted and the myc on the last tub had a hell of a time getting through there. I am also getting ready to try some ground up stems and fan leaves from a friends mary grow.

potatoskill · 03-03-09, 19:41

OK.. so the field cow patties are out of the question as i cant find them... so the altrenative is to use worm castings. the only reason i wasnt going with worm castings in the first place is because they are very expensive!

so what is a good ratio to use when using verm, coir, castings, and wheat straw? any tips? thnx!

lost_onabbey_rd · 03-03-09, 19:47

if you have a little room you can make worm casings yourself.. worm farming is a pretty easy gig, and it allows you to compost all that organic waste

the reason the store bought bag stuff isn't recommended it is usually has a rather high percentage of sand in it, making it very compact and bacteria prone

potatoskill · 03-03-09, 20:00

storebought castings offer consistancy.. each bag will have the same reliable nutrient and PH value.. and when doing something with as many variables as growing mushrooms... i want to have that consistancy i can rely on.

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03-03-09, 03:15	#1 (permalink)
potatoskill Mycotopiate Join Date: Dec 2006 Posts: 200	cow manure?? just wondering if you can use those 2$ bags of composted cow manure that you can buy from pretty much all gardening / hardware stores in a bulk sub instead of castings... so.. something like 1:1:1 of verm : coir : composted cow manure would it work alright??

03-03-09, 11:01	#3 (permalink)
dial8 fornic8 Join Date: Jun 1976 Posts: 4,070	Yeah most bagged manures from the store are not the best. Blak cow comes to mind. I've used it with a little success. Small flush with small fruits. Mixing coir in with it will help if you insist on using it but try to do as sidestreet says and get some field poopoo. __________________ For enlightenment please dial8.

03-03-09, 12:20	#4 (permalink)
marmy riding the roller coaster Join Date: Oct 2008 Posts: 836	The bagged manure is fine, but mix it with wheat straw... id say at least 60-70 percent by volume... use some verm too.. but I would actually pc the verm first... Coir would be cool too. But my foaf has seen great success with the bagged compost and straw. __________________ OK maybe not that old

03-03-09, 12:27	#5 (permalink)
mestophilies Agent of Chaos Join Date: Jun 2008 Posts: 1,082	I just use year old cow poo from the field. Can't throw a stone in this area without hittin a herd of em! __________________ "Going from gems to chems." ~Mystic

03-03-09, 10:19	#2 (permalink)
Sidestreet Getaway Slaptastician Join Date: Feb 2005 Posts: 1,319	Some specific kinds ahve been used, but most are warned against. Better to get it from a field: dry, old, clumpy, and covered in what looks like whitish dust. That means that helpful microbes called actinomycetes are in the poo, and will work to your benefit. Also, horse manure is better than cow. Usually those with livestock are happy to let you cart away some manure (for your garden, of course), but if you are an urbanite, you can buy good donkey doo here: www.mycrotopia.com

03-03-09, 12:54	#6 (permalink)
chupbracabra Mycoexplorer Join Date: Jan 2009 Posts: 145	mestophilies, what ratio do you mix your cow poo at? and with What? thanks

03-03-09, 16:15	#7 (permalink)
mestophilies Agent of Chaos Join Date: Jun 2008 Posts: 1,082	I use coir/verm. I mix 30% coir 30% verm and the rest poo. eyeballed mix. I go a 1:1 ratio of spawn/substrate mix. I have been adding a little more verm/coir lately as the poo seems really compacted and the myc on the last tub had a hell of a time getting through there. I am also getting ready to try some ground up stems and fan leaves from a friends mary grow. __________________ "Going from gems to chems." ~Mystic

03-03-09, 19:41	#8 (permalink)
potatoskill Mycotopiate Join Date: Dec 2006 Posts: 200	OK.. so the field cow patties are out of the question as i cant find them... so the altrenative is to use worm castings. the only reason i wasnt going with worm castings in the first place is because they are very expensive! so what is a good ratio to use when using verm, coir, castings, and wheat straw? any tips? thnx!

03-03-09, 19:47	#9 (permalink)
lost_onabbey_rd The Lost Join Date: Apr 1972 Posts: 1,756	if you have a little room you can make worm casings yourself.. worm farming is a pretty easy gig, and it allows you to compost all that organic waste the reason the store bought bag stuff isn't recommended it is usually has a rather high percentage of sand in it, making it very compact and bacteria prone __________________ Plant a seed, It will grow, So it's been, Sow the show To think outside the box, sometimes it is nessecary to step, outside the box

03-03-09, 20:00	#10 (permalink)
potatoskill Mycotopiate Join Date: Dec 2006 Posts: 200	storebought castings offer consistancy.. each bag will have the same reliable nutrient and PH value.. and when doing something with as many variables as growing mushrooms... i want to have that consistancy i can rely on.

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