starting my 1st grow Z-strain

killaweed · 05-06-09, 20:52

Hey guys I am a newbie . well i have been on the site for almost a year. I have been reading threads and talking to people so i think I am ready to start my mushies. Just have to run to the store and pick up some verm. Boy that stuff is hard to find but I found it will post some pics later on

DrDee · 05-06-09, 20:55

Hi KW,
I have three BRF cakes going right now with Z-strain. There's been some speculation that Z-strain is really Golden Teacher but others disagree. Good luck on your grow and I'll report anything interesting that happens with my cakes.
Peace,
Dee

mushhut · 05-06-09, 22:59

Its about time bro. Cant wait to see the first grow.

mushhut · 05-06-09, 23:03

Quote:

Originally Posted by DrDee

There's been some speculation that Z-strain is really Golden Teacher but others disagree. Dee

Ive got a grow log of the z strain in the photo gallery right now and I assure you they are nothing like the golden teachers. Go check it out in photo gallery. Cracking caps is a sure sign of z strain. If ppl are saying that z strain and golden teachers are one of the same they mislabled somthing.

killaweed · 05-06-09, 23:23

thanks Mush for getting me started you are gonna have to come over and put your seal of approval on my set up.

killaweed · 05-06-09, 23:25

Quote:

Originally Posted by killaweed

Hey guys I am a newbie . well i have been on the site for almost a year. I have been reading threads and talking to people so i think I am ready to start my mushies. Just have to run to the store and pick up some verm. Boy that stuff is hard to find but I found it will post some pics later on

Thanks for the info but Mush hooked me up but i will be posting pix since this is my cherry popping grow

mushhut · 05-06-09, 23:28

Thanks for the recignation. I handed out a ton of the z strain prints to a lot of topians. Hope there as good to you as they have been for me.

wildburr · 05-06-09, 23:34

I've tired Z a couple of times but always contamned on me. Hope you have better luck

mushhut · 05-06-09, 23:38

Quote:

Originally Posted by wildburr

I've tired Z a couple of times but always contamned on me. Hope you have better luck

Ive read here on topia that z strain eats up contam. I dont ever get contam in my tubs so I cant say from experience. Just quoting what Ive read.

wildburr · 05-07-09, 00:12

The rye contamned not the tub, Very possible was my fault.

killaweed · 05-07-09, 00:27

this is what a day of shopping got me. Man am I foot sore spent all day running around

killaweed · 05-07-09, 16:57

well I just shot my jars up I ended up doing 5 just to make sure that i have the process down pat . I used 1 cc per jar split between 4 holes. they are put away now and i am as nervous as a father in the delivery room . Mrs weed has been a big help with the math lol "I went to public school". So I just wanted to keep you guys updated if they start to colonize I will post more pics

DrDee · 05-07-09, 19:28

Quote:

Originally Posted by mushhut

Ive got a grow log of the z strain in the photo gallery right now and I assure you they are nothing like the golden teachers. Go check it out in photo gallery. Cracking caps is a sure sign of z strain. If ppl are saying that z strain and golden teachers are one of the same they mislabled somthing.

Hi Mushhut...
I'm a refugee from that other shroom place. They're really mean over there! So any misinformation I may have, I'll blame it on them. Cracked caps...I'll watch out for that.
Peace,
Dee

tbonus · 05-07-09, 20:10

Good luck bro,good vibes are sent your way

mushhut · 05-08-09, 01:03

How much of that print did you use to make each syringe KW?

Also I see you have foil on the top of you jars, meaning that you didnt take my advice on making your jar lids

. It may be a lil extra work to make the lids but it seals the deal.

I hope none of your jars contam. Good luck buddy.

killaweed · 05-08-09, 02:12

Quote:

Originally Posted by tbonus

Good luck bro,good vibes are sent your way

I have 80 cc's of water for that print and i do have lids on under the foil i qas just being anal about getting contams I drilled the holes put on the rtv and coaches tape and the foil maybe its overkill but hey its my 1st baby of course i am going to be over protective lol

mushhut · 05-08-09, 04:28

Glad to see you took my advice on the jar lids. If you used my lid tek (which I learned from topia) youll be fine and no need for the foil. Good luck.

killaweed · 05-10-09, 17:27

well i couldnt contain myself any longer i had to look at my jars. i can see some myco growth all around the injection points I am so happy didnt expect to see any results this soon but I am glad i did here are a couple of pix sorry about the quality of the pix buts its my camera phone

mushhut · 05-10-09, 17:46

Its nice to see sombody already having sucuess from my prints. That was fast but thats what you get with fresh prints. Did you suck up the rest of the spore solutuon that you had in that mason jar? If you didnt and it sits in that jar much longer it may not be good and if you do make syringes with it you need to lable them as test syringes only untill you can verfi growth.

DrDee · 05-10-09, 18:28

Hey Killa,
Nice to see you have some growth. People may jump all over me...but I personally don't worry about a little light on the mycelium during colonization. I peek every few days. Blame it on being a noob.
Peace,
Dee

smurfette · 05-10-09, 19:04

I peeked at my jars all the time. I also peeked at my tub this morning after my hubby told me not to. A lil light never hurt anybody. Great grow killa.

killaweed · 05-10-09, 19:36

thanks for the support guys lol i feel as if i should stand up and say I'm killaweed and I'm a peeker followed by the serenity prayer lol

killaweed · 05-14-09, 16:43

5-13-2009 well here i got some pics of the BRF jars...these pics were taken an hour ago...looks pretty good....

tbonus · 05-14-09, 17:57

Nice looking rhizo you got going on there Killa,Good success will follow!PEACE!

killaweed · 05-14-09, 19:20

5-14-2009
another update! they are moving fast!

Mizz_Cakes · 05-14-09, 20:09

ur jars are looking muy bueno papi...me likey likey....xoxo

Nunyabiz · 05-14-09, 20:35

Nice lookin jars you got there Killa..

whatisntseen · 05-14-09, 20:39

That's some quick colonization, my friend! I'm interested to see how this turns out

mushhut · 05-14-09, 23:28

Ive givin lots of these prints away so far I only know 2 members that have used them. The other member I gave them to said that his jars are growing super fast too. After seeing your grow and hearing from the other member about the super fast grow, makes me want to use one of the few prints I have left. I cant wait to see these fruit.

psilytex · 05-14-09, 23:36

Dude KW,
for a newbie you are doing awesome. Really good looking rhizo growth. Keep us posted.
Nothing but good vibes to your way man.

killaweed · 05-16-09, 23:30

well guys I am a day late posting these pix. They are from last night didnt get a chance to post as i was trying to figure out my new vaporizer neat lil gadget but I digress lol.

looked at my jars and it is so crazy how fast its going but I keep crossing my fingers that nothing goes wrong.

killaweed · 05-16-09, 23:51

Oh boy my jars are really white I am stoked like you wouldnt believe. I do have a question tho now that my jars are all white should i wait one more week before i try to fruit them? This is all still new ground for me. i feel like a kid stressing over when santa is gonna come. I am thinking about double casing them when I do. I am posting some pix of how they look right now

teknolojik · 05-17-09, 03:58

good luck killa, i'm new as well to the grow scene. i'm looking forward to having the luck you do very soon!

killaweed · 05-17-09, 09:18

Quote:

Originally Posted by teknolojik

good luck killa, i'm new as well to the grow scene. i'm looking forward to having the luck you do very soon!

Thanks alot I hope yours turns out good are you keeping a grow log also ?

mushroommaster7 · 05-17-09, 11:53

i've read to wait a couple days after 100% colonization, that z-strain is sweet huh? hopefully my myc looks like yours lol

teknolojik · 05-17-09, 14:06

Quote:

Originally Posted by killaweed

are you keeping a grow log also ?

very soon, probably starting at square one in a couple of weeks. moving to a new place on the 25th so that's when i'll start getting things ready~

Copernicus45 · 05-18-09, 02:15

Those jars are looking great killaweed.

I also recieved a Z strain print from Mushhut, i knocked up 12 1/2p BRF cakes. And just like you, within a little more then a week, some of my jars are completely done colonizing, but most need some more time to finish up.

I hope both of us have as much success as Mushhut did when he did his pan. Keep your eye out for my Z strain growlog, i might post the start of it in a few days, i'll be watching this thread, since we both are using prints from the same batch.

killaweed · 05-18-09, 18:27

well i got some pics i took last night. 5-17-2009

killaweed · 05-18-09, 18:28

5-17-2009
i couldnt wait i took one out that was fully colonized out and put it on wet perlite with vermiculite on top and bottom...temp is 81 F and humidity is at 97%......the other 4 i will wait til i find a better way to do them. so now i just gotta fan them a few times a day right?

killaweed · 05-18-09, 18:32

I have a question....should i wait til i see pins before i put them to fruit? and what should i put them in? i have one jar sitting on wet perlite and vermiculite on top and bottom of cake....which way will i get better yield? coir? straw? birdseed? i do have horse poo, i have vermiculite and perlite...no straw no coir yet and i know where to get wild birdseed....so which substrate should i use for the other 4 jars i have left? and how long should i wait before doing it?

whatisntseen · 05-18-09, 19:45

I would say that your best bet is to try as many options as you can and just make sure that you're keeping track of what you're changing with each.

I can't really tell you what's best as I'm at about the same spot as you on my first grow. I just birthed 3 cakes: DEC one with coir, one with verm/coir, and one chopped in half and DEC both with the same mixtures. Worse case scenario, I dont get any fruits, but I have plenty of LC made up to continue my efforts.

So ya dude, just check the vaults and see what you come up with.. and best of luck with your projects!!

mushhut · 05-19-09, 02:26

Wow Copernicus45 and killaweed you guyes are doing great with them prints. Im glad they went to good use. In all of my brf grows I have never had growth that fast. Great work for the both of you.

Oh yea, Btw all the z strain prints I gave out here were all from my tubs 1st flush.

Hey killaweed, for your first grow Id just do brf cakes with the dec. Stick with what you know for now. Do some more reading and study study study before jumping into somthing new. Haste makes waste. Come by sometime soon and Ill show you how to pasturize some bulk.

Copernicus45 · 05-20-09, 17:13

i cant thank you enough Mushhut for that free print, hopefully you have success with the 3 strains i sent you.

im excited to get some huge fruits, like you had, and hopefully successfuly clone one

killaweed · 05-21-09, 17:31

well i have some hpoo being pateurized i think i will mix it with some coir or verm i break the other cakes up. ill put pics of them when im done..

killaweed · 05-24-09, 16:21

well i have two cakes sitting in my fruiting chamber one was dunked one wasn't. Now its been 7 days and still no pins

and i just being to impatient or do i have something to worry about temp is 81 and humidity 99%

killaweed · 05-24-09, 16:22

Quote:

Originally Posted by killaweed

well i have two cakes sitting in my fruiting chamber one was dunked one wasn't. Now its been 7 days and still no pins

and i just being to impatient or do i have something to worry about temp is 81 and humidity 99%

Copernicus45 · 05-24-09, 22:11

do you notice any growth on the cake itself?=, Like is the mycelium getting any fluffier or colonizing the verm? how much are you fanning it? are there any holes with polyfil/micropore tape in the tub, for air exchange? Do the cakes have any type of sour smell, or yellow areas?

Sidestreet Getaway · 05-24-09, 23:46

Killaweed!

Good thread and I wish I'd gotten to it sooner.

You might want to lower the temperature in your fc. Lower seventies works great.

Also, above you asked about waiting for pins to birth. I personally don't have an opinion on this but I remember H3 and others used to say that it's a good idea to wait.

I think you'll be seeing your first mushrooms soon. It's a special time, ain't it?

edit: Also, if that tub is as little as it is short, you should fan a little more often because CO2 will build up faster in there. How much are you fanning now?

killaweed · 05-25-09, 01:59

Quote:

Originally Posted by Copernicus45

do you notice any growth on the cake itself?=, Like is the mycelium getting any fluffier or colonizing the verm? how much are you fanning it? are there any holes with polyfil/micropore tape in the tub, for air exchange? Do the cakes have any type of sour smell, or yellow areas?

yes i do see the mycelium trying to colonize the verm i dont have holes in the tub and i fan 3 times a day no yellow spots or funky odors at least not yet lol. are the holes needed or can i get away with just fanning them? Oh and have a good holiday everyone

killaweed · 05-25-09, 02:01

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sidestreet Getaway

Killaweed!

Good thread and I wish I'd gotten to it sooner.

You might want to lower the temperature in your fc. Lower seventies works great.

Also, above you asked about waiting for pins to birth. I personally don't have an opinion on this but I remember H3 and others used to say that it's a good idea to wait.

I think you'll be seeing your first mushrooms soon. It's a special time, ain't it?

edit: Also, if that tub is as little as it is short, you should fan a little more often because CO2 will build up faster in there. How much are you fanning now?

thanks alot the tub i have them in now is 13.3x8.5x4.7 i will be gettin a fishtank soon so they can have some room to grow

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05-06-09, 20:52	#1 (permalink)
killaweed Mycophage Join Date: Jan 2009 Posts: 136	starting my 1st grow Z-strain Hey guys I am a newbie . well i have been on the site for almost a year. I have been reading threads and talking to people so i think I am ready to start my mushies. Just have to run to the store and pick up some verm. Boy that stuff is hard to find but I found it will post some pics later on

05-06-09, 23:34	#8 (permalink)
wildburr Midnight Toker Join Date: Oct 2007 Posts: 3,731	I've tired Z a couple of times but always contamned on me. Hope you have better luck __________________ Silence is Golden, but Duct tape is Silver.

05-07-09, 00:12	#10 (permalink)
wildburr Midnight Toker Join Date: Oct 2007 Posts: 3,731	The rye contamned not the tub, Very possible was my fault. __________________ Silence is Golden, but Duct tape is Silver.

05-07-09, 00:27	#11 (permalink)
killaweed Mycophage Join Date: Jan 2009 Posts: 136	this is what a day of shopping got me. Man am I foot sore spent all day running around Attached Thumbnails

05-06-09, 20:55	#2 (permalink)
DrDee Mycophage Join Date: Dec 2008 Posts: 164	Hi KW, I have three BRF cakes going right now with Z-strain. There's been some speculation that Z-strain is really Golden Teacher but others disagree. Good luck on your grow and I'll report anything interesting that happens with my cakes. Peace, Dee

05-06-09, 22:59	#3 (permalink)
mushhut Mycotopiate Join Date: May 2008 Posts: 875	Its about time bro. Cant wait to see the first grow.

05-06-09, 23:23	#5 (permalink)
killaweed Mycophage Join Date: Jan 2009 Posts: 136	thanks Mush for getting me started you are gonna have to come over and put your seal of approval on my set up.

05-06-09, 23:28	#7 (permalink)
mushhut Mycotopiate Join Date: May 2008 Posts: 875	Thanks for the recignation. I handed out a ton of the z strain prints to a lot of topians. Hope there as good to you as they have been for me.

05-07-09, 16:57	#12 (permalink)
killaweed Mycophage Join Date: Jan 2009 Posts: 136	well I just shot my jars up I ended up doing 5 just to make sure that i have the process down pat . I used 1 cc per jar split between 4 holes. they are put away now and i am as nervous as a father in the delivery room . Mrs weed has been a big help with the math lol "I went to public school". So I just wanted to keep you guys updated if they start to colonize I will post more pics Attached Thumbnails

05-07-09, 20:10	#14 (permalink)
tbonus Mycotopiate Join Date: May 2006 Posts: 1,065	Good luck bro,good vibes are sent your way __________________ TWO WRONGS DON'T MAKE A RIGHT, BUT THREE RIGHTS MAKE A LEFT!

05-08-09, 01:03	#15 (permalink)
mushhut Mycotopiate Join Date: May 2008 Posts: 875	How much of that print did you use to make each syringe KW? Also I see you have foil on the top of you jars, meaning that you didnt take my advice on making your jar lids . It may be a lil extra work to make the lids but it seals the deal. I hope none of your jars contam. Good luck buddy.

05-08-09, 04:28	#17 (permalink)
mushhut Mycotopiate Join Date: May 2008 Posts: 875	Glad to see you took my advice on the jar lids. If you used my lid tek (which I learned from topia) youll be fine and no need for the foil. Good luck.

05-10-09, 17:27	#18 (permalink)
killaweed Mycophage Join Date: Jan 2009 Posts: 136	well i couldnt contain myself any longer i had to look at my jars. i can see some myco growth all around the injection points I am so happy didnt expect to see any results this soon but I am glad i did here are a couple of pix sorry about the quality of the pix buts its my camera phone Attached Thumbnails

05-10-09, 17:46	#19 (permalink)
mushhut Mycotopiate Join Date: May 2008 Posts: 875	Its nice to see sombody already having sucuess from my prints. That was fast but thats what you get with fresh prints. Did you suck up the rest of the spore solutuon that you had in that mason jar? If you didnt and it sits in that jar much longer it may not be good and if you do make syringes with it you need to lable them as test syringes only untill you can verfi growth.

05-10-09, 18:28	#20 (permalink)
DrDee Mycophage Join Date: Dec 2008 Posts: 164	Hey Killa, Nice to see you have some growth. People may jump all over me...but I personally don't worry about a little light on the mycelium during colonization. I peek every few days. Blame it on being a noob. Peace, Dee __________________ I believe odd things...that's my flaw

05-10-09, 19:04	#21 (permalink)
smurfette Mycophiliac Join Date: Dec 2008 Posts: 43	I peeked at my jars all the time. I also peeked at my tub this morning after my hubby told me not to. A lil light never hurt anybody. Great grow killa.

05-10-09, 19:36	#22 (permalink)
killaweed Mycophage Join Date: Jan 2009 Posts: 136	thanks for the support guys lol i feel as if i should stand up and say I'm killaweed and I'm a peeker followed by the serenity prayer lol

05-14-09, 16:43	#23 (permalink)
killaweed Mycophage Join Date: Jan 2009 Posts: 136	5-13-2009 well here i got some pics of the BRF jars...these pics were taken an hour ago...looks pretty good.... Attached Thumbnails

05-14-09, 17:57	#24 (permalink)
tbonus Mycotopiate Join Date: May 2006 Posts: 1,065	Nice looking rhizo you got going on there Killa,Good success will follow!PEACE! __________________ TWO WRONGS DON'T MAKE A RIGHT, BUT THREE RIGHTS MAKE A LEFT!

05-14-09, 19:20	#25 (permalink)
killaweed Mycophage Join Date: Jan 2009 Posts: 136	5-14-2009 another update! they are moving fast! Attached Thumbnails

05-14-09, 20:09	#26 (permalink)
Mizz_Cakes Mycophiliac Join Date: May 2009 Posts: 91	ur jars are looking muy bueno papi...me likey likey....xoxo

05-14-09, 20:35	#27 (permalink)
Nunyabiz Teonanacatl Join Date: Jan 2008 Posts: 563	Nice lookin jars you got there Killa..

05-14-09, 20:39	#28 (permalink)
whatisntseen Behind the Door Join Date: Apr 2009 Posts: 70	That's some quick colonization, my friend! I'm interested to see how this turns out

05-14-09, 23:28	#29 (permalink)
mushhut Mycotopiate Join Date: May 2008 Posts: 875	Ive givin lots of these prints away so far I only know 2 members that have used them. The other member I gave them to said that his jars are growing super fast too. After seeing your grow and hearing from the other member about the super fast grow, makes me want to use one of the few prints I have left. I cant wait to see these fruit.

05-14-09, 23:36	#30 (permalink)
psilytex The Salvanator Join Date: May 2009 Posts: 36	Dude KW, for a newbie you are doing awesome. Really good looking rhizo growth. Keep us posted. Nothing but good vibes to your way man. __________________ "I reject your reality and accept my own"

05-16-09, 23:30	#31 (permalink)
killaweed Mycophage Join Date: Jan 2009 Posts: 136	5-15 status update well guys I am a day late posting these pix. They are from last night didnt get a chance to post as i was trying to figure out my new vaporizer neat lil gadget but I digress lol. looked at my jars and it is so crazy how fast its going but I keep crossing my fingers that nothing goes wrong. Attached Thumbnails

05-16-09, 23:51	#32 (permalink)
killaweed Mycophage Join Date: Jan 2009 Posts: 136	5-16 Oh boy my jars are really white I am stoked like you wouldnt believe. I do have a question tho now that my jars are all white should i wait one more week before i try to fruit them? This is all still new ground for me. i feel like a kid stressing over when santa is gonna come. I am thinking about double casing them when I do. I am posting some pix of how they look right now Attached Thumbnails

05-17-09, 03:58	#33 (permalink)
teknolojik Mycophiliac Join Date: Oct 2008 Posts: 4	good luck killa, i'm new as well to the grow scene. i'm looking forward to having the luck you do very soon!

05-17-09, 11:53	#35 (permalink)
mushroommaster7 mycopsychologist Join Date: Jul 2008 Posts: 893	i've read to wait a couple days after 100% colonization, that z-strain is sweet huh? hopefully my myc looks like yours lol __________________ Ginseng Some preparations have resulted in a headache, tremulousness, and manic-like symptoms (Anon, 1989).

05-18-09, 02:15	#37 (permalink)
Copernicus45 Mycophiliac Join Date: Dec 2008 Posts: 38	Those jars are looking great killaweed. I also recieved a Z strain print from Mushhut, i knocked up 12 1/2p BRF cakes. And just like you, within a little more then a week, some of my jars are completely done colonizing, but most need some more time to finish up. I hope both of us have as much success as Mushhut did when he did his pan. Keep your eye out for my Z strain growlog, i might post the start of it in a few days, i'll be watching this thread, since we both are using prints from the same batch.

05-18-09, 18:27	#38 (permalink)
killaweed Mycophage Join Date: Jan 2009 Posts: 136	well i got some pics i took last night. 5-17-2009 Attached Thumbnails

05-18-09, 18:28	#39 (permalink)
killaweed Mycophage Join Date: Jan 2009 Posts: 136	5-17-2009 i couldnt wait i took one out that was fully colonized out and put it on wet perlite with vermiculite on top and bottom...temp is 81 F and humidity is at 97%......the other 4 i will wait til i find a better way to do them. so now i just gotta fan them a few times a day right? Attached Thumbnails

05-18-09, 18:32	#40 (permalink)
killaweed Mycophage Join Date: Jan 2009 Posts: 136	I have a question....should i wait til i see pins before i put them to fruit? and what should i put them in? i have one jar sitting on wet perlite and vermiculite on top and bottom of cake....which way will i get better yield? coir? straw? birdseed? i do have horse poo, i have vermiculite and perlite...no straw no coir yet and i know where to get wild birdseed....so which substrate should i use for the other 4 jars i have left? and how long should i wait before doing it?

05-18-09, 19:45	#41 (permalink)
whatisntseen Behind the Door Join Date: Apr 2009 Posts: 70	I would say that your best bet is to try as many options as you can and just make sure that you're keeping track of what you're changing with each. I can't really tell you what's best as I'm at about the same spot as you on my first grow. I just birthed 3 cakes: DEC one with coir, one with verm/coir, and one chopped in half and DEC both with the same mixtures. Worse case scenario, I dont get any fruits, but I have plenty of LC made up to continue my efforts. So ya dude, just check the vaults and see what you come up with.. and best of luck with your projects!!