Crude Psilocybin Extract

[Nunyabiz]

Tell me what ya'll think.. Yay.. or Nay.. I plan to try this if I can ever get enough mushies to try it with..

This is a way to extract the Psilo out of mushies.. It gets it to about 50-60 % purity.. I havent tried it yet but the person who told me really knows his chem stuff.. To get it pure you need to do chromatography..

1. Do a long METHANOL soak with powdered mushies.. Must be methanol.. Dont know why but this is what Im told.. Let it soak a couple weeks.. You can repeat the soak a few times to get most of the goodies out..

2. Strain..

3. Evap methanol under vac..

4. Scrape all the residue..

5. Take the scraped residue and dissolve in naptha.. A foaf says use lighter fluid.. Naptha also works but for some reason foaf says lighter fluid works better? IDK.. Anyways.. Once dissolved let the solvent/goodies sit.. The crap will stay in the solvent and the goodies will settle out to the bottom of your beaker or whatever your using..

6. Decant the fluid..

7. Dry your crude psilocybin..

About 20mg is a good dose if pure.. So!.. About 40-50 mg will send ya sailin'..

Any other chem dudes or dudettes that could confirm this?

[marmy]

interesting if it works.... If you get to that point, it would be helpful with more detail and actual volumes/amounts used.

[Soliver]

I thought that naptha WAS lighter fluid?

Let us know how it works?



soliver

[mushhut]

I know nothing about chem, but would love to see a detailed write up with pics on you method. If it works out and you get some extract Id be more then willing to try it with you.

Another great night of tripping balls with nunyabiz? Whatcha say buddy??

[Awestruck]

Never done a methnol extraction on mushrooms.
Check out this link regarding extraction efficiencies. It is authored by the man in psychoactive chemistry.

http://www.cognitiveliberty.org/shul...extraction.htm

Hope there's some useful info for you.

[director of sound]

i know when working with larger ammounts of mush (+10g) if you reduse your alcohol extraction the psilocybin/psilocin will crystalize out anyway in fairly pure form. i think your method above would be better suited for larger 10+g extractions than small ammounts. i could see the naptha to get rid of the goo mixed with your crystals but i would still be too afraid to run them through open air drying cycles and exposing to lighterfluid, which contains small ammounts of toxic/carcinogenic benzine among other chems. pure naptha would be better. imo just an everclear or pure grain alcohol extraction is the best because you can still get crystals and its all food safe.

[tacosauce81]

I don't know anything about chemistry but this seems like it would work the same as an alcohol extract. So in end you will probably end up with whatever those crystal things are at the bottom of ethanol extracts and from what I've read on here no one knows if those are the magic or the extra stuff. And then that will degrade rapidly as it will be exposed to open air.

The reason I think it will be the same as an alcohol extract is because this guy actually uses methanol to do that.

THE EXTRACTION TEKS

ADAM GOTTLIEB

THE PSILOCYBIN PRODUCERS GUIDE by Adam Gottlieb 1976

EXTRACTION
Crumble and pulverize the dried mycelial material and combine each 100 mg of this material with 10 ml of methanol. Place the flask in a hot water bath for four hours. Filter the liquids with suction through a filter paper in a buchner funnel with Celite to prevent clogging. Collect and save the filtrate liquids. Heat the slurry (the mush in the filter paper) two more times in methanol as before, filter, and accumulate the liquids of the three extractions. To be certain that all of the alkaloids have been extracted do a small extraction with a portion of the used slurry and test with Keller's reagent (glacial acetic acid, ferrous chloride, and concentrated sulfuric acid). If there is a violet indication, alkaloids are still present and further extraction is in order.
In an open beaker evaporate the liquids to total dryness with a hot water bath or by applying a hair dryer. Be certain that all traces of methanol have been removed. The remaining residue should contain 25-50 percent psilocybin/psilocin mixture. Greater purification can be achieved, but would require other solvents and chromatography equipment and is hardly necessary.
Each 100 grams of dried mycelium should yield about 2 grams of extracted material. This should contain at least 500 mg of psilocybin/psilocin mixed or about fifty 10 mg doses. Theoretically psilocin should have the same effect upon the user as psilocybin. The only difference between the two is that the later has a phosphate bond which disappears immediately after assimilation in the body. In other words, in the body psilocybin turns into psilocin. Psilocybin is a fairly stable compound, but psilocin is very susceptible to oxidization. It is best to keep the extracted material in a dry air tight container under refrigeration. A sack of silica-gel can be placed in the container to capture any moisture that may enter.

DOSAGE
The standard dose of psilocybin or psilocin for a 150 lb person is a 6-20 mg dose. We will figure the average dose as 10 mg. The crude alkaloid extraction process given here yields a brownish crystalline powder that is at least 25 percent pure. Each mason jar should contain at least 50 grams of wet mycelium. After drying this would be about 5 grams of material. The crude material extracted from this should contain 25-30 mg of psilocybin/ psilocin or roughly 2-3 hits. This yield may very to some extent depending upon several factors. Many of these species contain less of these alkaloids than dose Psilocybe cubensis and the alkaloidal content of this species may very in different strains. Cultivation conditions have alot to do with yield too. Higher temperatures (75 degrees F.) cause more rapid growth but lesser psilocybin content than do lower temperatures (70 degrees F.) One must test each new batch of extracted material to determine the proper distribution of dosages. Depending on the potency of the mycelia and how well the extraction was conducted the dose may range between 25 and 100 mg. Also bear in mind that the dose varies for different individuals.

I read a huge thread from the shroomery a couple months ago where they were trying to make a stable psilocybin salt but with all their theoretical chemistry crack work they still failed horribly and wasted several pounds of shrooms in the process.

The point of their attempting this was that even if you had pure psilocybin it would rapidly degrade. Therefore they needed to make a salt that would metabolize in the body to form psilocybin and some waste compounds that were harmless.

I would say that psilocybin is pretty conveniently stored in the shrooms as they are. And alcohol extracts are still the best way to go if you don't want the nasty shroom fiber.

[TVCasualty]

I've reduced an alcohol extraction down to where piles of the crystals formed. I filtered them out of the alcohol and tried eating a tablespoon full of them on two occasions; once while they were still saturated w/ alcohol and once after they were dry. Both times they just tasted sweet and nothing else was noted. Based on the yield of crystals, I figured it would take me about two pounds of mushrooms and two months of extracting to sweeten my morning coffee just how I like it.

So, IME they are carbohydrates, or I guess I could say "mushroom sugar."

[pvacant]

Originally Posted by TVCasualty

I've reduced an alcohol extraction down to where piles of the crystals formed. I filtered them out of the alcohol and tried eating a tablespoon full of them on two occasions; once while they were still saturated w/ alcohol and once after they were dry. Both times they just tasted sweet and nothing else was noted. Based on the yield of crystals, I figured it would take me about two pounds of mushrooms and two months of extracting to sweeten my morning coffee just how I like it.

So, IME they are carbohydrates, or I guess I could say "mushroom sugar."

thanx TV. great research, always wondered about that. guesse the crystals are not magick.