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Old 05-31-09, 18:38   #1 (permalink)
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Water to wbs ratio

I used to have some exact measurements written down way back when for exactly how much water and wbs to put in pint jars for pressure cooking. I hate soaking the wbs because sometimes i have to work too much and they get over soaked for damn near 4 days and the stench is atrocious, like olives and feces mixed together. I wont even clean those jars out i just put .40 in them out in the county. It is costing me money on jars, and grain =[ and ammo

I use both half pint and pint jars for wbs spawn can anyone help me out?
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Old 06-01-09, 08:16   #2 (permalink)
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I soak mine, so hopefully someone can shoot in with an idea?
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Old 06-01-09, 08:20   #3 (permalink)
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here you are about 2 hours start to finish including soaking and cooking
lazlo's wbs tek (Super fast and effective wbs/grain technique.) its pretty much the standard for wbs prep IMO
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Old 06-01-09, 08:21   #4 (permalink)
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Four days? Yeah, that's a bit of a stretch. I've had things to come up, leaving them soaking for a couple of days and that made them stink bad enough so I couldn't imagine an extra two.

I don't know of a precise ratio and it doesn't matter so much. Just pour in more water than you have seed- in a bowl, I usually add about an inch more. Let it soak overnight- or- if you can bring some water to a boil, dump in the seed, remove from the stove, put on a lid, and let it steep for a good 1-2 hours. It absorbs just as much water, so you can soak, strain and put in the PC all in a part of an evening.
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Old 06-01-09, 14:40   #5 (permalink)
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Yep usually around the 3rd day i start seein grains split open and what looks like some nasty mycellium growin all up in it. It looks like its alive all the bubbles constantly moving.

Then BANG
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He wants instant wbs recipe with no soaking.

Well its about 30-40% moisture that needs tobe added to get them to about 48% moisture.

Personally I just usea 5 gal bucket, pour inhot water tobarelycover the seed and dump in boiling water every 15 minutes a few times. Then just dump it out onto a s creen in the yard and drain it good.
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hola

here's something xerimyco posted in an old grow log of mine (see PESA strainbase in vaults if you are interested). i have never used this method myself, but it seems it would work well. the water is added directly to the wbs in the jars without a presoak.

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For spawn , I use a ratio of 2:1 WBS:water, by volume. For example, in a quart jar I use 380 ml of WBS and 190 ml water. (this makes for a very full jar, some people don't like them this full because there is less shaking room). In a pint I use 140 ml WBS and 70 ml water. Jars made at exactly 2:1 are great for spawn because they break up easily. If you were going to fruit the grain directly, I'd put more water. Experiment around some to find the best ratio for you.

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Lastly, do you ever have contam problems with these jars. I was under the impression you soaked them to germinate endospores that otherwise would not be killed in the PC.


I haven't had a contaminated WBS jar for years. Not one. I PC at 15 psi for 1hr and 45 minutes. If you make sure your PC is actually hitting 15 psi, and you do it for long enough, you should have 100% success. Every living thing in the jar will be killed, (all the things that matter, anyway) whether it has germinated or not.
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Old 06-01-09, 15:03   #8 (permalink)
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Any idea of a simple milo/water ratio? I have used it successfully in the past...but has been many moons. I have tried the search function to no avail
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