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Old 06-09-09, 15:01   #1 (permalink)
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Bagged Cow manure compost and Thia Lipa Yai

Well the title really says it all, I found a bag of this stuff at a local store chain and decided to give it a try, as I have had bad luck with composted stuff in the past, especially black cow. So I seen this at this store and it says its 100% composted cowmanure so I figured why not, had a good price so I snagged it up to experiment and test its viability and even if it fails hey can always use it in my plants.


THE SUB

The sub consists of

1 quart chopped straw
1/2 quart fine verm
1 quart quart Bag composted cow manure

It was mixed together dry, then placed in a pillow case. After this the pressure cooker was heated up to boiling, then all heat was shut off and and left to cool for 20 or so minutes, then the sub was placed inside, lid was placed on and weight was placed ontop, then left to sit over night, the next morning the pillowcase and sub were hung outside to dry, once outside of pillow case was fairly dry to the touch, it was spawned and this is after 30 hours.


SPAWN
1 Quart TLY spawn "Popcorn"

INCUBATOR/temp

Incubated in a TiT at 78 degrees F





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Old 06-09-09, 15:06   #2 (permalink)
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Right on.

Gonna get lots of side pins i bet. Thats a deep substrate mix for what you mentioned. COOOL.

Just been leavin at room temp to re-colonize the sub?
R-U gonna case it?
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no side pins as its covered in black plastic was removed for pics LOL and its only 4 inches deep but, very airy, verm and straw helps with that.
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Old 06-09-09, 15:59   #4 (permalink)
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You didn't mention the manure in the substrate mix? How much?
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sorry man, got stone and missed it LOL its up there now.
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Thats a shitload in 24hrs!
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super duper fast growth!
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Hell yea IL. Always findin a way to get that myc to grow fast. I always gotta follow you bc i always get great results when i do the fungus your style. Great Job!
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Looking good man.It seems like you and ette have really takin a liking to the TLY.It's an all star strain for sure.It's always treated me good in every aspect.I just hate I lost the genetics.G'luck on your grow buddy
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nice. il add like 2 scoops of coffee grounds to your subs next time and it will be colonized in 3 days!

looks great.
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Good call going with a high spawn/sub ratio of 1:2.5.
I'm glad to see that the store bought manure is seeming to work out so far.
I hope that the end product is plentiful.
It will be nice to know that you have a local and easy source of cow manure for future use. Cool
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nice. il add like 2 scoops of coffee grounds to your subs next time and it will be colonized in 3 days!

looks great.
Won't that mess with the pH of the substrate?
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a little ph buffer, some oyster shells, would fix that problem up
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Won't that mess with the pH of the substrate?

hasn't given me a problem yet. although im only using a very small amount.

ive seen grows off str8 up 1 brick coir/ 1 quart verm/ 1 quart spent coffee grounds with great success. not sure how good it is in later flushes though. but they said their colonization time was 7 days. that may be because the subs were a bigger volume but even with 2 quarts spawn. im averaging 3 days max on substrate spawn runs with a little bit of coffee in it.

i just add a tiny bit and it doesn't effect anything other than make the subs colonize like they are on roids. maybe its in combination with the supercake formula. maybe it works together who knows. the yield isn't any better or worse either. i have no idea why. maybe the caffeine shoots the mycelia into hyperdrive.


discussion on it here.

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heres at 2 days, its looking very nice, kinda suprising for bagged manure. Can't wait to see how this will actually fruit.



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Awesome man.
Can't wait to see the fruits!

At this rate I give it 5 more days to harvest
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well this is day 3 and it seems to be doing well, I give it a couple more days and it will be ready for the FC, but, I will give it 7 to make sure its nice and ready to fruit,


Very very nice rhizomorphic growth from this spawn and sub, perhaps it might turn out to be a good sub, we shall see.



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Looking good lion,seems to be colonizing nice and fast too.
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ok heres today, day 4, should be ready to fruit very very soon.



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Awesome work so far, as usual.

What brand was that manure? I too have tried Black Cow and could only get one flush out of it, and it had to be majorly leeched first.
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Awesome, Cant wait to see how this turns out, I have been wanting to try some Bagged Poo But have read too many bad things.

What brand was it?
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Awesome, Cant wait to see how this turns out, I have been wanting to try some Bagged Poo But have read too many bad things.

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make sure it says "composted" and if not you can always compost bagged manure yourself and or supplement modifying its consistancy/nutrient profile
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Awesome grow

Wow. That is very impressive colonization. I've got two tubs upstairs that are my first attempt at jars to poo. My recipe: 40% horse poo, 40% coir, 20% chopped straw.
Can't wait to see the fruits of your labors...
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Awesome, Cant wait to see how this turns out, I have been wanting to try some Bagged Poo But have read too many bad things.

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It is a hit and miss type thing with bagged cow shit from my experience... just get some good horse shit from Mycrotopia or any pastured horse field.

Why challenge yourself the first time around with the unknown contents of bagged cow shit, urine, steroids, antibiotics, and what ever else may be used on dairy cattle or feedlot cattle.

Just my 2 cents...

btw Nice thread Irishlion! Looks like you are on the road to success with your lucky bag of shit. Watch out for early contams setting in.
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Old 06-14-09, 17:14   #32 (permalink)
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here is 5 days and its done, gonna put it into the FC tonite and fruit is as a whole cake being its only like a gallon sub, hopefully it does well, we shall see.


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Old 06-14-09, 17:52   #34 (permalink)
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Sweet log so far! Manures doin it! Thinkin it's what I'm about to do (straw), but using mycobags w/poo in it, but you're giving me a great staple. Don't stop the show!
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LION looking really nice there brother.
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Let the fruiting Begin

Ok well as I said I was fruiting that sub Mega cake style so here it is. Let see what she'll do eh?



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That looks amazing!

Did you elevate it for the picture or for air circulation/other reason?
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That looks amazing!

Did you elevate it for the picture or for air circulation/other reason?

so I could fruit the entire sub. Also so it doesn't touch the perlite as I hydrated it with salt water, saltwater and mushies not good friend LOL.
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That's a Brick!! Love the elevation idea! After seeing, it makes me wonder why I haven't seen more done this way?!! Heh, sweet. And sorry if you've said, what's up w/ the salt water, have fish or something?
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That's a Brick!! Love the elevation idea! After seeing, it makes me wonder why I haven't seen more done this way?!! Heh, sweet. And sorry if you've said, what's up w/ the salt water, have fish or something?

When you mix salt with the water before hydrating the perlite, it prevents contamns growing in the perlite, and when the H2O evaps the salt stays behind and gives a nice clean chemical free RH.

Add as much salt to the water as the water will hold and then hydrate the perlite and you will never have contamns in your perlite and if you wanna reuse the perlite, just rinse and rehydrate same way and all will be well
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When you mix salt with the water before hydrating the perlite, it prevents contamns growing in the perlite, and when the H2O evaps the salt stays behind and gives a nice clean chemical free RH.

Add as much salt to the water as the water will hold and then hydrate the perlite and you will never have contamns in your perlite and if you wanna reuse the perlite, just rinse and rehydrate same way and all will be well
Wow this is a great idea. I can't believe I haven't read about it before!

I imagine you could get bye with less than fully saturated salt water, but why skimp when salt is so cheap.
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elevateing bricks is def a good idea....get everything u can outta that sub!
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i just checked my TLY project.
shitcanned the nasties took hold
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i think u cursed me LOL be well dude
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I'm interested in this bag of 100% cow manure...is it something a chain store carries or something?

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