Deciding to Dunk Bulk Subs or Not

[feralronin]

I was wondering for those you who do bulk subs, do you always dunk after each flush, or just when it needs it?

And what are signs to look for when deciding to dunk or not?

[weeeeeee]

i do it when it needs it and that is all i do however mist the fuck out of it when i dont dunk hell sometmess they look good enough that i dont even dunk them all the way through

[eatyualive]

Originally Posted by feralronin

I was wondering for those you who do bulk subs, do you always dunk after each flush, or just when it needs it?

And what are signs to look for when deciding to dunk or not?

yes. after each flush. but lower your dunk times the later the flush. ill even lower my first dunk now to about 4 hours.

[bosshogg]

yep best to just kinda eyeball it. your spray bottle will be your best friend.

mist it well after you clean out the 1st flush and all aborts. then you can kinda gauge it from there while it's fruiting out again. if it's looking kinda dry in the tub , give a couple squirts on the sides . when your sub is starting to look shriveled up and dry(around 3rd flush) dunk/ flood the tub . add some poo tea to the mix to really juice it up for the 3rd flush. if you think you have a contam adding a little bleach wont hurt either.

really its all up to you and what your sub is looking like and how many nutis / h2o you started with.

[feralronin]

Thanks for the speedy replies all. Much appreciation.

[p2k1]

Just offering my limited experience with dunking. 1st time ever doing monotubs dunked 2 of 3 monotubs after the first flush for 24 hours by removing substrate and placing in a container and weighing down. After the dunk both bulk substrates cracked, fragmenting into atleast 2 pieces while being placed back into the tub. It should be noted that the substrates were flipped over in the tub so that they were upsidedown compared to before the dunk. Point being another fruit was never seen from the tubs. Except some white mushrooms that werent cubes and rotted into a black sludge quickly.
Couple observations
1. With bulk substrates that are long and can fall apart easily be sure theyre thickly colonized and consolidated solid (post 1st flush dunk may have been too early)
2. trying to remove and put back a substrate and plastic bag the exact size of a tub is extremely hard to do without breaking it as there is no room for your hands to lay it down, the best method may be instead of trying to remove the substrate putting poles through the polyfill holes above the substrate so that when the bin is filled with water the poles keep the substrate submerged. If you could do this you could dunk a tub without ever taking the substrate out of the fruiting tub. Youd need to figure a way to keep water from coming out the sides and drain excess when youre done but i imagine it wouldnt be too hard

[meku]

i use in my tubs a kind of plastic net to hold the sub when dunking ...
it became realy realy easy to dunk this way.. see my thread:
http://forums.mycotopia.net/compost-...o-pinning.html (FIRST MONOTUB WORM CASTINGS VS COCO PINNING)
g luck

[CrazyFinger]

This would be a great place to ask this question, instead of starting a new thread. I am in the beginning stages of doing a bulk project using trays... not monotub. I have talked to Hip about post flush dunking. He advised me against it, instead recommending that I clean the surface real good of aborts, then giving a good mist to initiate the next flush. He told me that after a second or third flush, you may have to "rake" the surface lightly to get fresh sub closer to the surface, then mist.

This is good advice, and I plan on following it, but I read here that people "dunk" thier bulk subs..... What is the procedure to do this? It does not make sence to me.... doesn't the casing get waterlogged?

[weeeeeee]

Originally Posted by CrazyFinger

This would be a great place to ask this question, instead of starting a new thread. I am in the beginning stages of doing a bulk project using trays... not monotub. I have talked to Hip about post flush dunking. He advised me against it, instead recommending that I clean the surface real good of aborts, then giving a good mist to initiate the next flush. He told me that after a second or third flush, you may have to "rake" the surface lightly to get fresh sub closer to the surface, then mist.

This is good advice, and I plan on following it, but I read here that people "dunk" thier bulk subs..... What is the procedure to do this? It does not make sence to me.... doesn't the casing get waterlogged?

well what hip told you about the scraping and alll that is gold really what you want to do is read read read learn ALL your options and then play it by ear you can judge whether or not a project needs a dunk or not or if they need scraped or possibly flipped and scraped many options to almost all problems as true with many things in life