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Old 07-22-09, 08:23   #1 (permalink)
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my cakes turned invitro

due to no work, peeking thru cakes every now and then.bc of this maybe, shrooms started to appear from the unopened glass jar.
whats better, to fruit ones cakes like this, or let it out of the incubator and fruit like this? this unknown strain is a very fast colonizer, it was faster than the Dark spore syringe (remember the thread "a dark one"?) i used at the same time with this..this is less than 3 weeks from inoculation
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Old 07-22-09, 08:35   #2 (permalink)
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Invitro can be a great way to fruit your jars. There is pretty much no risk for contaminants, as well as, the ability to hide your grow from peeking eyes. You might consider looking at "chronic invitro tek". Basically you are creating an environment that is sealed off from contaminants, but yet you are giveing the fruits more room.
I have to say things are looking good though. 3 weeks from incoculation is a pretty impressive speed to see fruits on a BRF cake. You did very well.

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Old 07-22-09, 08:37   #3 (permalink)
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I'd put them in the FC asap. I don't think you have enough space in those jars to get any decent harvest.
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Old 07-22-09, 09:46   #4 (permalink)
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yeah throw them in the FC as soon as you can those mushies inside there will start to grow and new pins will form.
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is it okay to put in into the fc though its not yet 100%percent colonized, i mean bottom part is not yet 100% colonized? and if one puts it into the fc now, wud he get these shrooms that are already in the cakes inside the glass or just let them be into the fc?
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PC like everyone said, and
I would take the tops off of them and give 'em a bit of light at least. Cover the sides.
Maybe even throw some moist verm on top, if theres room.
Thats just what I would do, maybe a better solution out there.

Give those suckers some room to grow.
Looks great 4 u either way.
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is it okay to put in into the fc though its not yet 100%percent colonized, i mean bottom part is not yet 100% colonized? and if one puts it into the fc now, wud he get these shrooms that are already in the cakes inside the glass or just let them be into the fc?
How close is it to being 100%?

If it's like 90+%, yeah go for it. If not, honestly, I'd just let em grow in the jar.

Wait for some other opinions though.
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How close is it to being 100%?

If it's like 90+%, yeah go for it. If not, honestly, I'd just let em grow in the jar.

Wait for some other opinions though.

what rat said.

and yeah just leave those little guys on there they will continue to grow if they did not abort already. if its just the bottom of the cake that has not yet colo'd i would just DEC them and put em in the FC oh yeah and congrats on the pins
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I would wait until the cakes are 100% colonized before opening the jars.

Peel off whatever mushrooms have grown when you birth them. More will grow in your FC.

Leave 'em in the dark next time...
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is it okay to put in into the fc though its not yet 100%percent colonized, i mean bottom part is not yet 100% colonized? and if one puts it into the fc now, wud he get these shrooms that are already in the cakes inside the glass or just let them be into the fc?
To make sure you can just cut out the uncolonized part with a scalpel or simmilar tool.
I'd birth it.
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To make sure you can just cut out the uncolonized part with a scalpel or simmilar tool.
I'd birth it.
You could, but you will be increasing your chances of contams 10 fold.

Why not let it finish colonizing. It isn't going to hurt anything to let the invitro fruits do their thing.

They are ugly, but they are still magical!!

But to each his own.
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To make sure you can just cut out the uncolonized part with a scalpel or simmilar tool.
I'd birth it.
I'd really advise against opening them until they're 100% colonized... think of
the invitro fruits as a bonus flush... when the cake's colonized, open the jar,
pick fruits, dunk for a few hours, THEN put 'em in the FC.

Cutting out uncolonized subs is a great vector for contams, IME.



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Really? I've read that cutting out the uncolonized parts would save the rest of colonized cake. Seemed quite logical - avoiding contamination of uncolonized, vulnerable substrate by simply getting rid of it...

Everyday learning something. In that case I'd leave that thing in the incubator.
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i feel that i would let this be as its my first invitro and its really cool to look at
would let them be in the incubator til 100% col then when colonized-just sit in my room like a display, would that be okay instead of the fruiting chamber?
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I'm pretty inexperienced, but I see you have foil on the lid. If that's the case, you could most likely get away with leaving it out like a trophy...

Contams lack arms, legs, and even thumbs, so I doubt they're gonna climb up under the foil and past the lid.

Just an educated guess though...
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i feel that i would let this be as its my first invitro and its really cool to look at
would let them be in the incubator til 100% col then when colonized-just sit in my room like a display, would that be okay instead of the fruiting chamber?
Yep, just put it on a shelf, in a box--as long as it has some light. Once it's 100% colonized you can remove the dry vermiculite layer to give the fruits more head-room. Invitro is a great way to grow, IMO. Good luck.
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