Clumps?

Outer · 08-07-09, 15:32

Foaf was wondering what these bold white clumps are ? You can see them on the right side . i think theres 3 . the yellow spot on the left is a piece of corn.

plantman21 · 08-07-09, 15:48

I have a cake that is 75-80% covered in those lumps. Still waiting for it to fruit. It's been 2 1/2 weeks now.
Plantman

P4ulada · 08-07-09, 15:49

Uh, I think it´s nothing to be worried...
What you plannig to do? I think it´s time to birth, don´t you?
By the way...nice mycelium bro

~Hippie3 · 08-07-09, 15:59

yer looking at an early case of overlay there buddy.

Boboso · 08-07-09, 16:03

I've seen those clumps in my jars on top almost every time... Nice to know I now know what overlay is...

TastyBeverage · 08-07-09, 16:03

Does the surface of these clumps look kind of effervescent? Like little gas bubbles are trying to force their way up through it? If so, you're probably looking at wet bubble. Sorry.

If the blobs get little amber beads of liquid on them, that's your confirmation.

Outer · 08-07-09, 16:14

so what should i tell him? Case it or toss it? What was the possible cause if it is wet bubble?

~Hippie3 · 08-07-09, 16:15

at this point-
neither one.
i'd just fruit it as is,
overlay won't stop that.

Outer · 08-07-09, 16:20

yes it is wet bubble he sees the amber liquid and the airbubles

anything he can do to fix it or figure out why it happened?

Outer · 08-07-09, 16:45

im afraid to tell him to fan it. i dont want him to get wet bubble spores all over his house.

mycowarrier · 08-07-09, 16:58

do you remember a Pin being were the clumps are? If it is Mycogone some people carefully remove the clump and sprinkle baking soda on affected area. I have no experience with it. I just read about it.

TastyBeverage · 08-07-09, 17:49

The fungus that causes wet bubble is commonly found in soil. Did you use bagged compost in your substrate mix? If so, the whole thing is infected and excising the blobs will not make it go completely away. The safest thing to do is trash the whole thing. You wouldn't eat those weird looking, oozy blobs, would you?

If you used the bagged compost, what was your PC procedure?

Outer · 08-07-09, 20:28

no foaf said he picked it himself.didnt pc but oven pasterized at 180 for 3 hours put verm in to make field capacity.spawned 1/1 . he thinks it was to wet and somehow got overlay before full colonization. he went balls to the wall and fell short who knows he may try again. its been trashed thx

plantman21 · 08-07-09, 20:34

My cake got the same thing. How would my cake get that? I PC'd properly. I'm just confused..???????
Plantman

kcmoxtractor · 08-07-09, 20:34

Will putting this outside possibly make it better? Maybe he could at least get a lil' something out of it?

~Hippie3 · 08-07-09, 22:42

going outside woud be better
in that at least
you aren't spreading it in grow area.
it would have fruited deformed stunted mushrooms
but i'm afraid i don't know if any toxins are created by wet bubble.

The Truth. · 08-07-09, 23:57

I had three jars completely colonized with GT, one had wet bubble.
I cased them all together like a dumb ass and the whole tub went sour.
Mycelium wouldn't even take to the casing.
Tossed 'em out.
Wasted two good cakes.

kcmoxtractor · 08-08-09, 00:04

Quote:

Originally Posted by Hippie3

going outside woud be better
in that at least
you aren't spreading it in grow area.
it would have fruited deformed stunted mushrooms
but i'm afraid i don't know if any toxins are created by wet bubble.

Thanks hip!

Outer · 08-08-09, 06:06

Got some pics .HE wants to get to the bottom of this wet bubble. Wet bubble in the jars already or maybe his sourse of poo isnt any good? His jars def had fuzz on the top .also the poo looks alittle wet. any sugestions? cant seem to find any info on why its picking on foaf.

~Hippie3 · 08-08-09, 07:43

Control:

The highest standards of hygiene are essential for the control wet bubble.

Other methods of control are as follows:
1. Avoid soil movement near mushroom houses especially on windy days. Take measures to avoid the accumulation of dust in the vicinity of mushroom houses and also dust movement into the vicinity of mushroom houses.
2. It is essential to control flies and every effort should be made to prevent their entry into cropping houses.
3. Infected bags should be picked last, to minimize the risk of pickers spreading spores.
4. Picking trays should not be set on the ground in the production house as dust is attracted to the sides of the trays by static electricity.
5. As diseased mushrooms appear they should be removed from the beds using a cloth or sponge soaked in disinfectant and then placed in a bucket containing disinfectant.
6. 'Table' salt on top of tissue paper can be used to contain disease.
7. All ventilation filters should be replaced after each crop

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08-07-09, 15:32	#1 (permalink)
Outer Mycotopiate Join Date: Jul 2006 Posts: 235	Clumps? Foaf was wondering what these bold white clumps are ? You can see them on the right side . i think theres 3 . the yellow spot on the left is a piece of corn. Attached Thumbnails

08-07-09, 16:03	#5 (permalink)
Boboso Boob Join Date: Jun 2009 Posts: 386	I've seen those clumps in my jars on top almost every time... Nice to know I now know what overlay is... __________________ Rank me amongst the greats, either 1, 2, or 3. If I ain't number 1, I've failed you victory. - Jay-Z

08-07-09, 16:03	#6 (permalink)
TastyBeverage Editor Join Date: Sep 2007 Posts: 3,535	Does the surface of these clumps look kind of effervescent? Like little gas bubbles are trying to force their way up through it? If so, you're probably looking at wet bubble. Sorry. If the blobs get little amber beads of liquid on them, that's your confirmation. __________________ I'm ready for dream time, Mr. Bubbles.

08-07-09, 16:58	#11 (permalink)
mycowarrier uncomfortably dumb Join Date: Oct 2008 Posts: 1,167	do you remember a Pin being were the clumps are? If it is Mycogone some people carefully remove the clump and sprinkle baking soda on affected area. I have no experience with it. I just read about it. __________________ I got my mind right now boss

08-07-09, 15:48	#2 (permalink)
plantman21 Mycotopiate Join Date: Mar 2009 Posts: 444	I have a cake that is 75-80% covered in those lumps. Still waiting for it to fruit. It's been 2 1/2 weeks now. Plantman

08-07-09, 15:49	#3 (permalink)
P4ulada Mycotopiate Join Date: Feb 2009 Posts: 846	Uh, I think it´s nothing to be worried... What you plannig to do? I think it´s time to birth, don´t you? By the way...nice mycelium bro

08-07-09, 15:59	#4 (permalink)
~Hippie3 DUNG DEALER Join Date: Feb 2001 Posts: 42,760	yer looking at an early case of overlay there buddy.

08-07-09, 16:14	#7 (permalink)
Outer Mycotopiate Join Date: Jul 2006 Posts: 235	so what should i tell him? Case it or toss it? What was the possible cause if it is wet bubble?

08-07-09, 16:15	#8 (permalink)
~Hippie3 DUNG DEALER Join Date: Feb 2001 Posts: 42,760	at this point- neither one. i'd just fruit it as is, overlay won't stop that.

08-07-09, 16:20	#9 (permalink)
Outer Mycotopiate Join Date: Jul 2006 Posts: 235	yes it is wet bubble he sees the amber liquid and the airbubles anything he can do to fix it or figure out why it happened?

08-07-09, 16:45	#10 (permalink)
Outer Mycotopiate Join Date: Jul 2006 Posts: 235	im afraid to tell him to fan it. i dont want him to get wet bubble spores all over his house.

08-07-09, 17:49	#12 (permalink)
TastyBeverage Editor Join Date: Sep 2007 Posts: 3,535	The fungus that causes wet bubble is commonly found in soil. Did you use bagged compost in your substrate mix? If so, the whole thing is infected and excising the blobs will not make it go completely away. The safest thing to do is trash the whole thing. You wouldn't eat those weird looking, oozy blobs, would you? If you used the bagged compost, what was your PC procedure? __________________ I'm ready for dream time, Mr. Bubbles.

08-07-09, 20:28	#13 (permalink)
Outer Mycotopiate Join Date: Jul 2006 Posts: 235	no foaf said he picked it himself.didnt pc but oven pasterized at 180 for 3 hours put verm in to make field capacity.spawned 1/1 . he thinks it was to wet and somehow got overlay before full colonization. he went balls to the wall and fell short who knows he may try again. its been trashed thx

08-07-09, 20:34	#14 (permalink)
plantman21 Mycotopiate Join Date: Mar 2009 Posts: 444	My cake got the same thing. How would my cake get that? I PC'd properly. I'm just confused..??????? Plantman

08-07-09, 20:34	#15 (permalink)
kcmoxtractor Satan's Helper Join Date: Jun 2008 Posts: 2,096	Will putting this outside possibly make it better? Maybe he could at least get a lil' something out of it? __________________ "It was the straying that found the path direct" - Austin Osman Spare

08-07-09, 22:42	#16 (permalink)
~Hippie3 DUNG DEALER Join Date: Feb 2001 Posts: 42,760	going outside woud be better in that at least you aren't spreading it in grow area. it would have fruited deformed stunted mushrooms but i'm afraid i don't know if any toxins are created by wet bubble.

08-07-09, 23:57	#17 (permalink)
The Truth. is stranger than fiction. Join Date: Apr 2009 Posts: 486	I had three jars completely colonized with GT, one had wet bubble. I cased them all together like a dumb ass and the whole tub went sour. Mycelium wouldn't even take to the casing. Tossed 'em out. Wasted two good cakes. __________________ "Each new hour holds new chances for new beginnings. The horizons lean forward, offering space to place new steps of change"

08-08-09, 06:06	#19 (permalink)
Outer Mycotopiate Join Date: Jul 2006 Posts: 235	Got some pics .HE wants to get to the bottom of this wet bubble. Wet bubble in the jars already or maybe his sourse of poo isnt any good? His jars def had fuzz on the top .also the poo looks alittle wet. any sugestions? cant seem to find any info on why its picking on foaf. Attached Thumbnails

08-08-09, 07:43	#20 (permalink)
~Hippie3 DUNG DEALER Join Date: Feb 2001 Posts: 42,760	Control: The highest standards of hygiene are essential for the control wet bubble. Other methods of control are as follows: 1. Avoid soil movement near mushroom houses especially on windy days. Take measures to avoid the accumulation of dust in the vicinity of mushroom houses and also dust movement into the vicinity of mushroom houses. 2. It is essential to control flies and every effort should be made to prevent their entry into cropping houses. 3. Infected bags should be picked last, to minimize the risk of pickers spreading spores. 4. Picking trays should not be set on the ground in the production house as dust is attracted to the sides of the trays by static electricity. 5. As diseased mushrooms appear they should be removed from the beds using a cloth or sponge soaked in disinfectant and then placed in a bucket containing disinfectant. 6. 'Table' salt on top of tissue paper can be used to contain disease. 7. All ventilation filters should be replaced after each crop

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