Importance of drying quickly

[p2k1]

Hey everyone Im wondering if failing to get cubensis fruits dry within a day or two has a direct correlation to potency loss. Is splitting the stem and letting fruits dry on a paper towel on a shelf at room temperature sufficient or is fanning/dessicating necessary? Obviously using a dehydrator is ideal. Another thing id like clarification on is something Ive heard a lot of conflicting opinions. Regarding the bruising blue does this give any indication to potency or loss of potency by bluing? Another thing Im wondering is if theres a chance of potency loss by rinsing fruits after cleaning before drying? I was wondering cause psilocybin is water soluable I believe, as Ive made tea by semi boiling fruits and straining them and drinking the water. After rinsing cleaned fruits I wipe the surface moisture and the paper towel turned blue (not purple like spores)

Any help is appreciated

Thanks

[Soliver]

Bluing isn't indicative of anything, no worries there....

I never rinse my fruits, so I'm not sure about that one, although if you've split
your stems then rinsed... well, your theory makes sense, although I'm not sure
how MUCH potency you could potentially lose. Essentially, I wouldn't suggest
rinsing fruits unless you're concerned about ? being on them...

I'll often pick fruits, set them on a towel, and not get around to putting them on
the fan until the next day. Ideally, you dry them ASAP, but I've never noticed a
real potency loss on any fruit that has been dried in a reasonable amount of time
(a day or so). Shrooms in the fridge are OK for several days, so there's no reason
to think they'd go bad in a day just sitting on a towel in the closet, assuming they
have fresh air circulating around them (laying on a towel, not in clumps, etc.)

Dehydrators aren't so great if the heat element is on. I use a regular fan with my
fruits hanging in a mesh bag in front; fan for 12-24 hours, then into a dessicant
chamber for final drying.



soliver

[p2k1]

These fruits grew up in the great outdoors so unless theres a reason not to theyll be getting a rinsing, they had lots of friends to play with growing up

[GadgetGuy]

My last batch were dried sitting in open air and sent a marine running down my moms road half naked asking the neighbors for help so I don't think it matters how they are dried as long as they are good to begin with....

Took 4-5 days for them to fully dry just sitting on a plate on a paper towel. They were all smaller shrooms/aborts so a larger fruit may take longer.

[marmy]

Potency will not be reduced by washing off in water. Proper food sanitation is always appreciated. It is a peeve of mine if they are not rinsed off.

[homobrassinolide]

Originally Posted by Soliver

Bluing isn't indicative of anything, no worries there....

soliver

I must of got bad info cause I can recall (from somewhere only G O D knows where) that blueing is indicative of oxidation of your drug (psilocybin/psilocin) along with the spectroscopic change (blueing) which results in a non-psychoactive compound.

[GadgetGuy]

Originally Posted by homobrassinolide

I must of got bad info cause I can recall (from somewhere only G O D knows where) that blueing is indicative of oxidation of your drug (psilocybin/psilocin) along with the spectroscopic change (blueing) which results in a non-psychoactive compound.

Next batch you get rub half of the shrooms between your fingers a lot until they blue and just lightly pick the other half and dry them all. Take each half separately... I don't think you will notice a difference, I never have.

[bcbigshroom]

I always use silica crystals in a box with screens to dry. Crystals are blue when dehydrated, then pink when full of water. Put them in the microwave or oven, heat and reuse. Their great and they work pretty fast for me.

[p2k1]

So is the consensus that open air drying fruits at room temperature will result in potency loss or no?

[GadgetGuy]

For me, no. I didn't even use a fan on my last one. Ive never used dessicants and have had nice potent fruits every time. Back in the day I used a dehydrator with the heating element disabled just to get dry fruits faster but noticed no difference in potency.

[pharmer]

if privacy is not an issue just set your fruits on some kind of screen and put them on the floor in front of your refridgerator. An intermittent warm breeze is created by the condenser cooling fan which does the job fairly quick. Elevate the screen to make a gap above the floor for even quicker dry time.

[shroom57]

I dry mine in a dehydrator set at 80 F, I have dried them in an oven on the lowest setting...

I've left them out and forgot about them for days and then dried them

I doubt very seriously if your brain can tell the difference

[apokalypse]

Originally Posted by homobrassinolide

I must of got bad info cause I can recall (from somewhere only G O D knows where) that blueing is indicative of oxidation of your drug (psilocybin/psilocin) along with the spectroscopic change (blueing) which results in a non-psychoactive compound.

It is oxidation, but not of the drug. Cakes have very low psilocybin/psilocin content in them. Next time you pop one out of a jar, give it a good squeeze (not enough that it will crumble in your hand, just apply a good amount of pressure) and put it back in the jar for a minute. You should see it promptly start to bruise.

[MLBjammer]

Originally Posted by p2k1

So is the consensus that open air drying fruits at room temperature will result in potency loss or no?

If there is any loss, I cannot tell. Some say that heat will reduce potency. I fan dry, then use a dessicant, so I am not sure about that even. You should be fine just letting them air dry.

[BuckarooBanzai]

No potency loss in taking a little extra time to dry.

Psilocybin is water soluble, so any rinsing will remove a little magic, but only from what it touches. Don't tear 'em up before rinsing.

Bluing has NOTHING WHATSOEVER to do with potency. There are numerous totally non-active shrooms that blue and I've seen kick-ass cubensis fruits which barely blued at all.

[p2k1]

Hey everyone a couple quick questions

Some small fruits I were drying were left wrapped in paper with some wet ones and after alraedy being mostly dry have reabsorbed moisture and gotten somewhat mushy. Do I need to toss these or can I just dry em again?

Another question I have is I had 3 piles of fruits to clean rinse and dry, when I picked I had been up for 2-3 days and fuckin passed the fuck out. Now the fruits that havent had the dirt cleaned off them have new healthy myc growing on them, this is obvious when contrasting the bright white on the dirty fruits with the yellowish stem of freshly harvested ones. Is this a cause for concern? Obviously Im gonna get em dry asap

[MLBjammer]

If they seem rotten (like rotten fruit or veggies), I would toss them. If they just seem wet, you can redry.

Nah, mushrooms are mycelium, and they will grow even off a moist paper towel sometimes. Just get those fruits on a fan, dude!

[Hippie3]

Originally Posted by homobrassinolide

I must of got bad info cause I can recall (from somewhere only G O D knows where) that blueing is indicative of oxidation of your drug (psilocybin/psilocin) along with the spectroscopic change (blueing) which results in a non-psychoactive compound.

myth.

[p2k1]

Finished drying cleaning rinsing got em fan drying now, some had gotten mushy since being picked the ones that almost literally turned to mush at the bottom of the piles I tossed. (Had been awake for 2-3 days when harvested so passed out for a day after about 2/3rds had been cleaned. There were some that were soggy but held enough of a form to be wiped and rinsed so well see if they manage to dry to anything