How long will an outdoor cube patch fruit?

p2k1 · 08-12-09, 02:48

Hey everyone just wondering assuming an outdoor cube bed has sufficient substrate for fruiting, what conditions must be met for it to stop temperatures being too cold/too hot, night/day temps, humidity average max n min etc....

Any help is appreciated

plantman21 · 08-12-09, 19:05

I would guess the same for indooor.
Plantman

catdaddy · 08-12-09, 19:16

Well, it is easier to say what temps and humidities they WILL fruit at- and since all you can do is water and provide additional substrate, you should concentrate on that.

You can water (mist) during dry times- and if the temp is right- bingo.

Feed new substrate in at the beginning of the season, so the colony can gow- more or less using the original colony as spawn into a larger bulk....

That's my 2 cents worth. Good luck.

SilvrHairDevil · 08-12-09, 22:22

"Well, it is easier to say what temps and humidities they WILL fruit at..."

From what I read, they grow outdoors only in southern, humid areas.

I guess I'd be wasting my time trying to grow them outside in frigid Canada, eh?

TastyBeverage · 08-12-09, 22:29

Well it's summer right now, how frigid is it? Do you get below the 60's at night?

Hippie3 · 08-12-09, 23:41

cold frame

Hippie3 · 08-12-09, 23:43

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cold_frame

p2k1 · 08-13-09, 06:25

Catdaddy- Ive got 1 small patch (1x3 feet) and 7 large ones (4x4) from about 200 quart jars (1 and 1/2 cups rye grain spawn) to 1000+ pounds of shit, so I'm not worrying about having to mix in substrate Im sure theres plenty of food. Im wondering about what the temps/humidity will have to be for it to stop fruiting, since Im in Ontario, Canada thats probably when it gets to cold. Then I wonder if the cold will merely preserve the patches or kill them (I remember hearing about culture being stored via fridge or freezer?)

SilvrHairDevil Im in Ontario, Canada and my patches have been out for about 2 months now. After 1 month a big one had a small harvest of a half oz dry. My smallest patch has been fruiting steady for weeks but only yielded maybe a half to a oz dry. 2 days ago I checked one of my big patches I never visit and harvested maybe 2+ ounces dry, Ill try to post pics after cleaning and rinsing and before drying

Hippie3: ahahahhahaha that cold frame looks fucking badass gotta check that out. The first big patch I did has a wooden frame with a weedcloth bottom so if the coldframe doesnt need its on bottom I could just build it right on top. If I can just build a coldframe on top of the patches for the winteer that would be clutch, if not I guess I could build the coldframes and transplant the patches into em

I guess at this point my question becomes how cold does it have to be for cubensis to stop fruiting? Is it the coldness of the average temp or is the coldest temp (eg night) the biggst factor

Ben Dover · 08-13-09, 09:17

People use the fridge to store cultures. Freezing them destroys them if I'm not mistaken

Quote:

Originally Posted by Hippie3

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cold_frame

What time of year would you think is best to install a cold frame?

When ever the first frost waning is or sooner?

Hippie3 · 08-13-09, 09:38

Quote:

how cold does it have to be for cubensis to stop fruiting ? Is it the coldness of the average temp or is the coldest temp (eg night) the biggst factor

unsure exactly but most reports only show fruiting of cubensis
down into the low 70sF
so figure long periods of time [night or day] in the 60sF
would likely end fruiting .

Hippie3 · 08-13-09, 09:39

Quote:

What time of year would you think is best to install a cold frame?

When ever the first frost waning is or sooner? __________________

now.

Ben Dover · 08-13-09, 10:00

Gottcha.

It's been almost 100 degrees here recently so I think I'll wait a bit longer so the babies don't fry up

Or would that not matter with the top slightly open?

SilvrHairDevil · 08-13-09, 10:23

At 7:00 this morning, my outside thermometer showed 55º F and I wouldn't be surprised to see night-time frost next month.

I think I will have to wait until next year.

p2k1 · 08-13-09, 12:02

Searching online temps here have gotten as low as 54 fahrenheit at night

SilvrHairDevil · 08-22-09, 11:03

I think I may have come across a partial answer to the chill of the evenings.

A carry-over from the Winemaking World - the brew belt (heat belt).
Combined with a cold frame, and installed in an outdoor laundry sink: that should keep the Frost Demons at bay for a while.

Do they still make waterbeds? I reckon a waterbed heater would work, too.

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p2k1 Mycotopiate Join Date: Jul 1972 Posts: 326	How long will an outdoor cube patch fruit? Hey everyone just wondering assuming an outdoor cube bed has sufficient substrate for fruiting, what conditions must be met for it to stop temperatures being too cold/too hot, night/day temps, humidity average max n min etc.... Any help is appreciated __________________ Stay free As soon as they popped my gate I knew these motherfuckers made a mistake

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catdaddy herding kittens Join Date: Dec 2007 Posts: 2,325	Well, it is easier to say what temps and humidities they WILL fruit at- and since all you can do is water and provide additional substrate, you should concentrate on that. You can water (mist) during dry times- and if the temp is right- bingo. Feed new substrate in at the beginning of the season, so the colony can gow- more or less using the original colony as spawn into a larger bulk.... That's my 2 cents worth. Good luck. __________________ American history is full of heroes; men of great prowess and great renown... But only one Catdaddy.

08-12-09, 22:22	#4 (permalink)
SilvrHairDevil Aficionado Join Date: Oct 2008 Posts: 551	"Well, it is easier to say what temps and humidities they WILL fruit at..." From what I read, they grow outdoors only in southern, humid areas. I guess I'd be wasting my time trying to grow them outside in frigid Canada, eh? __________________ Fettuccini, linguini, martini, bikini - Vince

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TastyBeverage thirsty for more Join Date: Sep 2007 Posts: 2,482	Well it's summer right now, how frigid is it? Do you get below the 60's at night? __________________ Why do little blue men hit me with fish?

08-12-09, 19:05	#2 (permalink)
plantman21 Mycotopiate Join Date: Mar 2009 Posts: 384	I would guess the same for indooor. Plantman

08-12-09, 23:41	#6 (permalink)
Hippie3 DUNG DEALER Join Date: Feb 2001 Posts: 43,266	cold frame __________________ visit dial-a-hippie .

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Hippie3 DUNG DEALER Join Date: Feb 2001 Posts: 43,266	http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cold_frame __________________ visit dial-a-hippie .

08-13-09, 06:25	#8 (permalink)
p2k1 Mycotopiate Join Date: Jul 1972 Posts: 326	Catdaddy- Ive got 1 small patch (1x3 feet) and 7 large ones (4x4) from about 200 quart jars (1 and 1/2 cups rye grain spawn) to 1000+ pounds of shit, so I'm not worrying about having to mix in substrate Im sure theres plenty of food. Im wondering about what the temps/humidity will have to be for it to stop fruiting, since Im in Ontario, Canada thats probably when it gets to cold. Then I wonder if the cold will merely preserve the patches or kill them (I remember hearing about culture being stored via fridge or freezer?) SilvrHairDevil Im in Ontario, Canada and my patches have been out for about 2 months now. After 1 month a big one had a small harvest of a half oz dry. My smallest patch has been fruiting steady for weeks but only yielded maybe a half to a oz dry. 2 days ago I checked one of my big patches I never visit and harvested maybe 2+ ounces dry, Ill try to post pics after cleaning and rinsing and before drying Hippie3: ahahahhahaha that cold frame looks fucking badass gotta check that out. The first big patch I did has a wooden frame with a weedcloth bottom so if the coldframe doesnt need its on bottom I could just build it right on top. If I can just build a coldframe on top of the patches for the winteer that would be clutch, if not I guess I could build the coldframes and transplant the patches into em I guess at this point my question becomes how cold does it have to be for cubensis to stop fruiting? Is it the coldness of the average temp or is the coldest temp (eg night) the biggst factor __________________ Stay free As soon as they popped my gate I knew these motherfuckers made a mistake

08-13-09, 10:00	#12 (permalink)
Ben Dover fukenshrumen Join Date: Jan 2007 Posts: 576	Gottcha. It's been almost 100 degrees here recently so I think I'll wait a bit longer so the babies don't fry up Or would that not matter with the top slightly open?

08-13-09, 10:23	#13 (permalink)
SilvrHairDevil Aficionado Join Date: Oct 2008 Posts: 551	At 7:00 this morning, my outside thermometer showed 55º F and I wouldn't be surprised to see night-time frost next month. I think I will have to wait until next year. __________________ Fettuccini, linguini, martini, bikini - Vince

08-13-09, 12:02	#14 (permalink)
p2k1 Mycotopiate Join Date: Jul 1972 Posts: 326	Searching online temps here have gotten as low as 54 fahrenheit at night __________________ Stay free As soon as they popped my gate I knew these motherfuckers made a mistake

08-22-09, 11:03	#15 (permalink)
SilvrHairDevil Aficionado Join Date: Oct 2008 Posts: 551	I think I may have come across a partial answer to the chill of the evenings. A carry-over from the Winemaking World - the brew belt (heat belt). Combined with a cold frame, and installed in an outdoor laundry sink: that should keep the Frost Demons at bay for a while. Do they still make waterbeds? I reckon a waterbed heater would work, too. Attached Thumbnails __________________ Fettuccini, linguini, martini, bikini - Vince

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