Got green :( Is it going to take over my FC?

[PDXcacti]

I immediately (ok I took the pic first) went and grabbed a ziplock, brought it back and zipped up the cake before taking to the trash, but now I'm super paranoid, eyeing every blue spot on my cakes for any green...

[Phx]

it will if you dont find a way to get ride of it

[PDXcacti]

2 cakes in with it that were just dunked (+ some nutes as an experiment) plus a few more that just finished first flush and are dry. Should I dunk remaining cakes in bleach water, 200:1?

[MLBjammer]

You should bleach dip the remaining cakes (dunk in 200:1 water:bleach solution for 10 to 15 minutes) and bleach bomb your entire grow area.

[PDXcacti]

bleach bomb is?

[MLBjammer]

Use a stronger mix of bleach and water to wipe down your entire grow area, your FC (replace perlite--if that is what you are using), etc. You want to kill any mould spore that generated from your contamination. If you can see the green, there are millions of spores everywhere.

It is a bitch--but necessary.

[Frequency]

Great advice MLBJammer. Also try not to dunk your cakes together in the same pool of water to avoid cross-contamination. As an alternative to bleach you may use hydrogen peroxide. Add a capfull to a cup of a water to dilute. In most cases even a bleach/h2O2 dunk will not save an infected cake from trich/peni mold, however it's an effective treatment for surface cobweb. Toss your infected cakes, sanitize your work area, and resume. Good luck to you!

[MLBjammer]

Good call on dipping in separate jars, Frequency. I forgot to mention that.

PDX, this hobby is all about holding contamination at bay through clean practices. Bleach is unfortunately our best friend sometimes.

Good vibes for your remaining cakes. Peace.

[Soliver]

Nute dunks will cover your colonized cake with an easily contam'd substance; the
mycelial network does a pretty good job of keeping your sub protected, but if you
introduce random nutes, anything can / will settle on your cakes...



soliver

[TVCasualty]

That doesn't look like trich to me. From what I can see, it doesn't even look like a contaminant. Sometimes the mycelium produces really strange mutant forms, but generally they're not olive green so it may well be a contaminant (though definitely not trich); it just looks really unusual to me. I guess my post isn't very helpful, but no sense trashing cakes and going through annoying cleaning procedures if you don't have to...

[Frequency]

Originally Posted by TVCasualty

That doesn't look like trich to me. From what I can see, it doesn't even look like a contaminant. Sometimes the mycelium produces really strange mutant forms, but generally they're not olive green so it may well be a contaminant (though definitely not trich); it just looks really unusual to me. I guess my post isn't very helpful, but no sense trashing cakes and going through annoying cleaning procedures if you don't have to...

It's looking like Aspergillus to me, but TV knows what he's talking about. It may be an odd mutation but as he said the green color is an indicator of contamination. The aborts and funky shrooms on the cake are also an indicator. Most cakes won't fruit if they're battling for supremacy over a substrate, but if the infection is isolated or small enough they'll give off funky fruits as seen in your photo. Good luck bro!

[Scratch]

Originally Posted by Frequency

It's looking like Aspergillus to me

Good thing you trashed that cake.
I read up on Aspergillus on wikipedia...

Pathogens

Some Aspergillus species cause serious disease in humans and animals, and can be pathogenic. The most common causing invasive disease are Aspergillus fumigatus and Aspergillus flavus. Aspergillus flavus produces aflatoxin which is both a toxin and a carcinogen, and which can potentially contaminate foods such as nuts. The most common causing allergic disease are Aspergillus fumigatus and Aspergillus clavatus. Other species are important as agricultural pathogens. Aspergillus spp. cause disease on many grain crops, especially maize, and synthesize mycotoxins including aflatoxin.

Aspergillosis

Aspergillosis is the group of diseases caused by Aspergillus. The most common subtype among paranasal sinus infections associated with aspergillosis is aspergillus fumigatus. The symptoms include fever, cough, chest pain or breathlessness, which also occur in many other illnesses so diagnosis can be difficult. Usually, only patients with already weakened immune systems or who suffer other lung conditions are susceptible.

[coyoteyogi]

Some Aspergillus species cause serious disease in humans and animals, and can be pathogenic.

Yuck. Better to be safe and bleach bomb the FC.

[TVCasualty]

Originally Posted by Scratch

Usually, only patients with already weakened immune systems or who suffer other lung conditions are susceptible.

That's because Aspergillus is ubiquitous in the air. It's not good to have a high concentration of it growing in your back room, but suffering a major health issue because of it is rare (definitely a good idea to remove suspected colonies of it, no sense tempting fate). The same warnings apply to black pin mold; it's everywhere too but if it can take hold in your sinus cavity it will eat your face off. There's a thread around here somewhere about a case of it that is scary enough to make a person want to live in a sterile bubble.

I still kind of doubt that the picture showed a contaminant. I've not seen Aspergillus growing on an actual mushroom before, but I've seen it contaminate uncolonized substrate. Testing it by swabbing it with a Q-tip to see if the green color smears (indicating a contaminant) would help reveal what's going on.

Either way, in the case of half-pint cakes, it's easy and safest to err on the side of caution; when in doubt, throw it out!

[PDXcacti]

Haven't had a chance to do anything with this yet, but I'm taking it as a good sign so far that the 2 cakes that were nute dunked aren't showing any signs of contam, they have a nice fuzzy new myc layer and some fresh pins. Going to bleach dunk the remaining cakes tonight just to be on the safe side.

TV- I wanted to note that this looked grey to me at first, and I thought maybe it was a pin that had grown inward or something, started taking pics because I was going to ask here what the hell it was, but the pics showed the green tint and I decided to toss based on that, as you said its a half pint brf cake, no sleep lost over losing it.

[weeeeeee]

so i have never played with nute dunks before nor do i ever plan to unless i see some profound benefits in the future

but as im sitting here stoned as shit and just reading through this thread why dont all you people interested in these nute dunkings do an initial 4+ hour dunk in nutrient rich water tamp them dry then do a quit dunk in the bleach dilute to kinda rinse the outside clean real quick taht way all the nutes are focused on the inner parts of whatever it is you are dunking?

and when i zoomed in on that pic it almost looked like a fallen over not fully opened shroom that is rotting and not a contam it was kinda funky it looked just like a little mushy that grew up with poor FAE i have no clue what that contam is though does not look like ANY trich i have ever dealt with

[TVCasualty]

You know, that might've been a mutant abort that was spontaneously bruising. The greenish tint may be caused by baeocystin.

[Yetti]

does not look like trich to me ether, I should know been fighting it now for weeks, i should have taken pics, and cobweb,
busy bleaching my area as well but still not winning,
quick question, had a sub with cobweb, peroxided it, it fruited but they all seem a bit strange , twisted, any way will they still be ok to eat when dry?

[MLBjammer]

I dunno what was on that cake. Maybe a mutant abort?

Yeah, if you dry them, they will be fine