Normal Penis Envy Flush

killaweed · 08-31-09, 22:14

This is swims !st penis envy flush. I only got a few fruits . Is this normal or did i get spoiled with Z-strain giving me a full canopy

mushroommaster7 · 08-31-09, 22:30

man swiy has some pretty meaty fruits!, wonderin, how's that weigh out dry?

GadgetGuy · 08-31-09, 22:32

I don't know anything about PE but that is a nice hefty little flush there. They look like they are gonna be nice and heavy when dry.

RITTER · 08-31-09, 23:01

WOW, those are real nice! wish I had some PE to work with!
What are you using for a sub?
"Ritter"

Ben Dover · 08-31-09, 23:05

Nice fruits you have there

Multispore I'm guessing? What substrate did you use? What temps and how often was FAE?

A little more info and I might be able to help. Off MS PE for me there was a nice pin set with a decent forest of them but the caps won't open all the way and fill a canopy. Try making a new LC/shoot up a new set of spawn.

Or you could clone one of those guys.

killaweed · 08-31-09, 23:07

my sub is 60-40 hpoo,verm spawned from 1 1/2 pint brf and i 1 1/2 pint corn. the rest of my jars walked the green mile lol temps have been in the mid 70's and i have a airhose from my airpump

Ben Dover · 08-31-09, 23:19

I would try casing the next one and see if it comes along any better.

Beyond that, make a couple LC's and/or clone one of them and see how that does for ya

killaweed · 08-31-09, 23:22

swim will try to case it after the dunk. But trich has been a problem all summer so he will hope for the best

kcmoxtractor · 08-31-09, 23:53

I would clone one of those large mushrooms in the cluster into an LC. You would get a good amount of clone material grain jars from that, and it would be available pretty quickly, without having to do multiple G2G transfers to build a good amount of spawn.

BuckarooBanzai · 09-01-09, 00:09

I would call that a beautiful flush of PE. It is a persnickity strain and frequently does much worse that what you got.

You'll never get a full canopy with PE - the caps don't open up to block things.

I wouldn't change a thing if I were you. The results you picture are outstanding.

Sideshow · 09-01-09, 07:24

Yep, great flush for a sub that size.

MLBjammer · 09-01-09, 07:43

PE is a bitch. A lot of veterans just don't bother growing it. That looks really good for an MS grow. Good job!

Getafix · 09-01-09, 08:00

Very Nice!
Can't wait to grow the PE, hope my spores arrive soon.

P4ulada · 09-01-09, 08:02

like they said, nice flush dude...
you have some big ones there ^^
Congratz

AGAMA · 09-01-09, 08:11

Quote:

Originally Posted by BuckarooBanzai

The results you picture are outstanding.

Just starting to work with PE as a side project myself. I hope to be able to do as well as you, friend. Hope they are as good as they look!!!

whatchamacallit · 09-01-09, 08:48

In SWIM's experience, with PE from multispore, they don't often give huge uniform flushes, and often grow in spotty parts over the substrate. They are often denser and heavier than many strains, which can almost make them equal out, and the trip and potency can also help make up for the minor reduction in yield.

However, if one was to try and isolate many substrains, then fruit each culture to find the very best, he believes that one could find the ideal substrain to pull off those killer, large, uniform flushes, all of those beautiful shrooms. Just probably not something to expect from multispore, with PE.

Another thing, these are probably one of the best races to try and clone some isolate, to keep it for a long time, as they are extremely hard to collect spores from, making cloning/isolation probably the best avenue for keeping this strain in one's library for a long time.

BuckarooBanzai · 09-01-09, 09:45

Here is a really good thread Freakachino did on a PE strain isolation project:
http://forums.mycotopia.net/agar-str...ttempt-pe.html (My first strain isolation attempt, PE)

If you ever wondered why somebody would isolate, that thread is a perfect explanation.

pvacant · 09-01-09, 09:57

WOW! those are some good PE genes. definitely clone them. you WON'T be sorry. PE is a fun strain, in so many ways.....good luck. and if you do get some prints and want to trade let us (me) know, or donate to the site. can't have too many PE prints going around.

marmy · 09-01-09, 10:18

Im gonna go against and say that was not a great flush. Any fruits popping up is ok for sure, but that was not great or even good, just ok. ANd sometimes ok is good enough.

This is a good PE flush

just something to shoot for. PE loves wheat straw

whatchamacallit · 09-01-09, 10:23

Quote:

Originally Posted by marmy

Im gonna go against and say that was not a great flush. Any fruits popping up is ok for sure, but that was not great or even good, just ok. ANd sometimes ok is good enough.

This is a good PE flush

just something to shoot for. PE loves wheat straw

EDIT: removed large pic..

Is this from multispore, isolate, or clone?

killaweed · 09-01-09, 15:58

Thanks for the good vibes guys. My next step is to get and try to do agar. a buddy of mines has been telling me that for a year. so i guess it time for me to listen to wiser heads. but since i have no agar as of yet i will take some of the inner tissue and put in one of my port pint jars and shoot up some popcorn. And thanks Buck comming from you that was like winning a blue ribbon i read your stuff all the time

Mizz_Cakes · 09-01-09, 18:34

Quote:

Originally Posted by marmy

Im gonna go against and say that was not a great flush. Any fruits popping up is ok for sure, but that was not great or even good, just ok. ANd sometimes ok is good enough.

This is a good PE flush

just something to shoot for. PE loves wheat straw

ok so i want to know how u got them to flush like that?? what was ur sub mix? what was ur spawn:sub ratio? and they look pretty small...lots of them but not huge like killa's. i think they both look good but i like killa's huge fruits those are sweeeet looking. i bet they are heavy as hell.

coyoteyogi · 09-01-09, 18:40

My attempt at PE yielded exactly one fruit of mediocre size. I would have been delighted with your result.

copelandiaKidd · 09-01-09, 20:46

I like peniss!!!!!

BuckarooBanzai · 09-01-09, 21:01

Killaweed - consider your blue ribbon awarded with two gold stars and a smiley sticker.

I've seen many a talented grower struggle with PE.

I still say that is a damned good flush. The fruits are very large compared to the substrate. And there are what, two aborts in that flush? Both of em also look 3 or 4 inches long...

Marmy's pic is nice (kinda huge) but so is yours, Killa.

Those are some huge, sweet freakin' pee-nuses!

killaweed · 09-01-09, 21:16

I'm getting a lil misty over here lol. But thanks.

The fruits were picked that giant penisaurus weighed in at 100. grams total flush weight wet is 321 grams not counting a cap that is printing

BuckarooBanzai · 09-01-09, 21:32

I calls 'em likes I sees 'em, man. I'm real in touch with my feminine side. I cry like a bitch real regular like...

Future flushes - try to print every cap. And mail one to Hip!

PE prints are worth a lot in the OMC, man.

Embrace · 09-01-09, 21:35

Damn Killaweed.I think thats the biggest shroom I've seen.Bad-ass.

masterplain88 · 09-01-09, 21:51

nice grow thats making me think PE might be my next project.
peace,
masterplain88

killaweed · 09-01-09, 21:52

ok here are some pics

Sidestreet Getaway · 09-01-09, 21:55

seriously though, great stuff!

edit: sorry if this is over the top, please remove if it is!

BuckarooBanzai · 09-01-09, 21:57

That is what I'm talking about!

Ohhh, I love the mycoporn!

Beautiful pics.

marmy · 09-01-09, 22:24

while I have seen some big weiners, that one is super huge.

I have only seen multi spore used on the PE so far. I have noticed that 3 quarts of spawn were used to mix with the substrate. The substrate usually consisted of wheat straw and bagged compost with manure. At times pc'd vermiculite and coir were mixed in.

It appeared that the higher ratios of wheat straw produced more and consistent fruits with more flushes. More compost brought about less flushes.

The ratio has always been a little random, but you could guess at usually between 70 and 80% wheat straw.

But i will attest that the person that has had success with pe from day one is a total noob and probably got lucky that they found a good way from the get go.

normal cubensis temps etc.

bozefonce · 09-02-09, 00:03

HOly smOKes, Killaweed! And I was feeling proud of a 19g boomer here in my neighborhood, but you got yerself one 5 times that size. Awesome job, my friend!

copelandiaKidd · 09-02-09, 03:02

no over compensation anywhere near this thread!!!!!!

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08-31-09, 22:14	#1 (permalink)
killaweed Mycophage Join Date: Jan 2009 Posts: 136	Normal Penis Envy Flush This is swims !st penis envy flush. I only got a few fruits . Is this normal or did i get spoiled with Z-strain giving me a full canopy Attached Thumbnails

08-31-09, 22:30	#2 (permalink)
mushroommaster7 mycopsychologist Join Date: Jul 2008 Posts: 893	man swiy has some pretty meaty fruits!, wonderin, how's that weigh out dry? __________________ Ginseng Some preparations have resulted in a headache, tremulousness, and manic-like symptoms (Anon, 1989).

08-31-09, 22:32	#3 (permalink)
GadgetGuy Stupid Snowboarder... Join Date: Feb 2009 Posts: 1,315	I don't know anything about PE but that is a nice hefty little flush there. They look like they are gonna be nice and heavy when dry. __________________ I have to hold on to the grass or I'll fall off the world!

08-31-09, 23:53	#9 (permalink)
kcmoxtractor Satan's Helper Join Date: Jun 2008 Posts: 1,349	I would clone one of those large mushrooms in the cluster into an LC. You would get a good amount of clone material grain jars from that, and it would be available pretty quickly, without having to do multiple G2G transfers to build a good amount of spawn. __________________ "It was the straying that found the path direct" - Austin Osman Spare

08-31-09, 23:01	#4 (permalink)
RITTER Mycophage Join Date: Mar 2008 Posts: 120	WOW, those are real nice! wish I had some PE to work with! What are you using for a sub? "Ritter"

08-31-09, 23:05	#5 (permalink)
Ben Dover fukenshrumen Join Date: Jan 2007 Posts: 577	Nice fruits you have there Multispore I'm guessing? What substrate did you use? What temps and how often was FAE? A little more info and I might be able to help. Off MS PE for me there was a nice pin set with a decent forest of them but the caps won't open all the way and fill a canopy. Try making a new LC/shoot up a new set of spawn. Or you could clone one of those guys.

08-31-09, 23:07	#6 (permalink)
killaweed Mycophage Join Date: Jan 2009 Posts: 136	my sub is 60-40 hpoo,verm spawned from 1 1/2 pint brf and i 1 1/2 pint corn. the rest of my jars walked the green mile lol temps have been in the mid 70's and i have a airhose from my airpump

08-31-09, 23:19	#7 (permalink)
Ben Dover fukenshrumen Join Date: Jan 2007 Posts: 577	I would try casing the next one and see if it comes along any better. Beyond that, make a couple LC's and/or clone one of them and see how that does for ya

08-31-09, 23:22	#8 (permalink)
killaweed Mycophage Join Date: Jan 2009 Posts: 136	swim will try to case it after the dunk. But trich has been a problem all summer so he will hope for the best

09-01-09, 00:09	#10 (permalink)
BuckarooBanzai Prone to ranting... Join Date: Oct 2005 Posts: 6,050	I would call that a beautiful flush of PE. It is a persnickity strain and frequently does much worse that what you got. You'll never get a full canopy with PE - the caps don't open up to block things. I wouldn't change a thing if I were you. The results you picture are outstanding. __________________ Banzai Institute for Higher Education (a collection of growing Teks & threads)

09-01-09, 07:24	#11 (permalink)
Sideshow Freakishly Large Join Date: Sep 2007 Posts: 353	Yep, great flush for a sub that size. __________________ Thank you, Mr. Mason

09-01-09, 07:43	#12 (permalink)
MLBjammer Addicted to Invitro Join Date: Mar 2006 Posts: 1,877	PE is a bitch. A lot of veterans just don't bother growing it. That looks really good for an MS grow. Good job!

09-01-09, 08:00	#13 (permalink)
Getafix Old Hand Join Date: Aug 2009 Posts: 42	Very Nice! Can't wait to grow the PE, hope my spores arrive soon.

09-01-09, 08:02	#14 (permalink)
P4ulada Mycotopiate Join Date: Feb 2009 Posts: 696	like they said, nice flush dude... you have some big ones there ^^ Congratz

09-01-09, 20:46	#24 (permalink)
copelandiaKidd Void Of Boundaries Join Date: Jul 2009 Posts: 578	I like peniss!!!!! __________________ "LEARN THE RULES SO YOU CAN BREAK THEM PROPERLY" -The Dali lama "i don't care if it eats my cat, as long as the damn thing fruits"~ prism

09-01-09, 08:48	#16 (permalink)
whatchamacallit Deadhead Join Date: Jan 2007 Posts: 1,170	In SWIM's experience, with PE from multispore, they don't often give huge uniform flushes, and often grow in spotty parts over the substrate. They are often denser and heavier than many strains, which can almost make them equal out, and the trip and potency can also help make up for the minor reduction in yield. However, if one was to try and isolate many substrains, then fruit each culture to find the very best, he believes that one could find the ideal substrain to pull off those killer, large, uniform flushes, all of those beautiful shrooms. Just probably not something to expect from multispore, with PE. Another thing, these are probably one of the best races to try and clone some isolate, to keep it for a long time, as they are extremely hard to collect spores from, making cloning/isolation probably the best avenue for keeping this strain in one's library for a long time. __________________ I'm addicted to placebos, I could quit but it wouldn't matter.. http://deadvids.com/dv3 24/7 Dead Videos with a chatroom!

09-01-09, 09:45	#17 (permalink)
BuckarooBanzai Prone to ranting... Join Date: Oct 2005 Posts: 6,050	Here is a really good thread Freakachino did on a PE strain isolation project: http://forums.mycotopia.net/agar-str...ttempt-pe.html (My first strain isolation attempt, PE) If you ever wondered why somebody would isolate, that thread is a perfect explanation. __________________ Banzai Institute for Higher Education (a collection of growing Teks & threads)

09-01-09, 09:57	#18 (permalink)
pvacant a DeAd BoY Join Date: Oct 2008 Posts: 191	WOW! those are some good PE genes. definitely clone them. you WON'T be sorry. PE is a fun strain, in so many ways.....good luck. and if you do get some prints and want to trade let us (me) know, or donate to the site. can't have too many PE prints going around. __________________ Life is a drag, and i'm bored sick. I got nothing to say. So i'll end it now before it's to late. SNUFF IT!

09-01-09, 10:18	#19 (permalink)
marmy riding the roller coaster Join Date: Oct 2008 Posts: 836	Im gonna go against and say that was not a great flush. Any fruits popping up is ok for sure, but that was not great or even good, just ok. ANd sometimes ok is good enough. This is a good PE flush just something to shoot for. PE loves wheat straw __________________ OK maybe not that old

09-01-09, 15:58	#21 (permalink)
killaweed Mycophage Join Date: Jan 2009 Posts: 136	Thanks for the good vibes guys. My next step is to get and try to do agar. a buddy of mines has been telling me that for a year. so i guess it time for me to listen to wiser heads. but since i have no agar as of yet i will take some of the inner tissue and put in one of my port pint jars and shoot up some popcorn. And thanks Buck comming from you that was like winning a blue ribbon i read your stuff all the time

09-01-09, 18:40	#23 (permalink)
coyoteyogi Mycophiliac Join Date: May 2009 Posts: 69	My attempt at PE yielded exactly one fruit of mediocre size. I would have been delighted with your result. Attached Thumbnails

09-01-09, 21:01	#25 (permalink)
BuckarooBanzai Prone to ranting... Join Date: Oct 2005 Posts: 6,050	Killaweed - consider your blue ribbon awarded with two gold stars and a smiley sticker. I've seen many a talented grower struggle with PE. I still say that is a damned good flush. The fruits are very large compared to the substrate. And there are what, two aborts in that flush? Both of em also look 3 or 4 inches long... Marmy's pic is nice (kinda huge) but so is yours, Killa. Those are some huge, sweet freakin' pee-nuses! __________________ Banzai Institute for Higher Education (a collection of growing Teks & threads)

09-01-09, 21:16	#26 (permalink)
killaweed Mycophage Join Date: Jan 2009 Posts: 136	I'm getting a lil misty over here lol. But thanks. The fruits were picked that giant penisaurus weighed in at 100. grams total flush weight wet is 321 grams not counting a cap that is printing

09-01-09, 21:32	#27 (permalink)
BuckarooBanzai Prone to ranting... Join Date: Oct 2005 Posts: 6,050	I calls 'em likes I sees 'em, man. I'm real in touch with my feminine side. I cry like a bitch real regular like... Future flushes - try to print every cap. And mail one to Hip! PE prints are worth a lot in the OMC, man. __________________ Banzai Institute for Higher Education (a collection of growing Teks & threads)

09-01-09, 21:35	#28 (permalink)
Embrace Former Member Join Date: Feb 2009 Posts: 37	Damn Killaweed.I think thats the biggest shroom I've seen.Bad-ass.

09-01-09, 21:51	#29 (permalink)
masterplain88 Mycotopiate Join Date: Jan 2009 Posts: 683	nice grow thats making me think PE might be my next project. peace, masterplain88

09-01-09, 21:52	#30 (permalink)
killaweed Mycophage Join Date: Jan 2009 Posts: 136	ok here are some pics Attached Thumbnails

09-01-09, 21:55	#31 (permalink)
Sidestreet Getaway Slaptastician Join Date: Feb 2005 Posts: 1,319	seriously though, great stuff! edit: sorry if this is over the top, please remove if it is!

09-01-09, 21:57	#32 (permalink)
BuckarooBanzai Prone to ranting... Join Date: Oct 2005 Posts: 6,050	That is what I'm talking about! Ohhh, I love the mycoporn! Beautiful pics. __________________ Banzai Institute for Higher Education (a collection of growing Teks & threads)

09-01-09, 22:24	#33 (permalink)
marmy riding the roller coaster Join Date: Oct 2008 Posts: 836	while I have seen some big weiners, that one is super huge. I have only seen multi spore used on the PE so far. I have noticed that 3 quarts of spawn were used to mix with the substrate. The substrate usually consisted of wheat straw and bagged compost with manure. At times pc'd vermiculite and coir were mixed in. It appeared that the higher ratios of wheat straw produced more and consistent fruits with more flushes. More compost brought about less flushes. The ratio has always been a little random, but you could guess at usually between 70 and 80% wheat straw. But i will attest that the person that has had success with pe from day one is a total noob and probably got lucky that they found a good way from the get go. normal cubensis temps etc. __________________ OK maybe not that old

09-02-09, 00:03	#34 (permalink)
bozefonce Ni arte, ni maña Join Date: Dec 2008 Posts: 287	HOly smOKes, Killaweed! And I was feeling proud of a 19g boomer here in my neighborhood, but you got yerself one 5 times that size. Awesome job, my friend! __________________ If thoughts are things, then dreams are bigger things…

09-02-09, 03:02	#35 (permalink)
copelandiaKidd Void Of Boundaries Join Date: Jul 2009 Posts: 578	no over compensation anywhere near this thread!!!!!! __________________ "LEARN THE RULES SO YOU CAN BREAK THEM PROPERLY" -The Dali lama "i don't care if it eats my cat, as long as the damn thing fruits"~ prism

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