Who's used Mycrotopia bags?

[p2k1]

Hey everyone who's used Mycrotopia's spawn/substrate bags (mycrobags) or sandbags? I'm considering getting some supercake mix bags to fruit invitro and some rye spawn bags to spawn to sandbags to fruit invitro. I've seen all the grows using these products on our site and theres not that many. I know quality sterility and consistency will be top notch but have a couple questions.

1. What kind of average yields does one see with a multispore inoculation of a supercake invitro bag (3 cups substrate)?

2. How many flushes do you average get out of these bags?

3. Once colonized just turn on a light and a fan in the room and cut some air slits and wait for harvest right? After a harvest can you dunk by just putting in a ziploc and filling up with water then placing in another ziploc and cutting some airholes for the new flush in a clean bag?

Seems very simple and easy. Another thing is sandbags which obviously yield more cause theyre 24 cups substrate vs 3 but these look big and i imagine would be quite hard to deal with post flush, harvesting would probably mean breaking down the bag, they look like theyd be hard to dunk due to their size, has me thinking if maybe i should stick with the smaller bags because they can be injected instead of spawned, are only 3 cups each so should colonize quick and contams will be isolated, and with the small size will be easy to dunk after each flush

Anyone with experience your input is appreciated

[MLBjammer]

The Mycrotopia spawn bags are the best out there--period.

If you mix your spawn in the sandbags, you will get a much larger yield.

You should get two big flushes from the sandbags if you do nothing but pick fruits as they mature. Trying to dunk a sandbag is extremely messy. I would suggest just misting the sub between flushes.

You honestly cannot go wrong with your plan if you order from H3.

[Moose]

I agree with MLB, Hips bags are the cats ass. Excellent for anyone who's just starting out, and still very convenient for even the more experience growers. I would suggest going with the larger bag, takes a little more time but definitely worth the wait.

Moose

[p2k1]

Has anyone used the "pancake mix" bags, the supercake with donkey doo? I know its for pans but has anyone used it for cubes? I cant see having donkey doo in the subtrate being detrimental to cubes

[floppypeter]

im a big fan of hips spawn bags, best deal around Ive had great luck with them

[bozefonce]

FOAF has had great success with Hip's mycrobags. After the first invitro process (as Hippie says, they don't really flush per se, they just keep producing and you pick as you go) where your cakes slow down to a productive crawl, you can remove the cake, clean up any damaged shroom tissue (they're hard to harvest cleanly through a slit in the bag), you can give them a good dunk in a large tupperware or in a good sized ziploc bag, then fruit in an FC from there. Right now FOAF has two that he did a DEC on and they're doing quite nicely. You should be able to manage several flushes this way.

[p2k1]

I have no doubt that all of Hips products are the best on the market, Im just trying to figure out the best way to go about things.

Id like to hear from anyone who has experience or knowledge of the "pancake" bags. Are they exclusively for pans? Wouldnt they work for cubes as well? Especially for fruiting invitro as its a bulk additive? Or is it extra slow to colonize from spore/lc innoculation?
Is it possible that for cubes invitro fruiting in the bag using the pancake mix with donkey doo would be better than the regular "supercake mycro mix"?

[Hippie3]

they work for any dung-loving species.

[p2k1]

If one were living in a place where cultivation of cubensis is legal and using the pancake bags, is it possible that theyd outperform the supercake mix fruiting invitro due to the manure content?

[Hippie3]

no.
manure is less nutritious,
and a waste of limited bag space-
most mix the bags, once colonized,
with dung as a bulk grow,
non-sterile, out of the bag.
they'd colonize well
but proly yield slightly less over several flushes.

[p2k1]

Hmmm then Ill probably be spawning to the Sandbags. Would the rye make better spawn than the "supercake mycromix"?

[Hippie3]

supercake has more particles and so more 'points of inoculation'-
=faster colonization.

[p2k1]

Do you mean faster colonization of the supercake bags from innoculation or faster colonization of the sandbags once spawned to?
Which is the optimal spawnbag to colonize for the purpose of spawning to sandbags? Which will colonize faster from innoculation?

[bozefonce]

Originally Posted by p2k1

Do you mean faster colonization of the supercake bags from innoculation or faster colonization of the sandbags once spawned to?
Which is the optimal spawnbag to colonize for the purpose of spawning to sandbags? Which will colonize faster from innoculation?

I think he means the supercake bags will colonize faster from inoculation. FOAF has seen substantial multispore colonization at two weeks, and if the bags are broken up at around 40-50% they finish colonizing a lot faster. Using an LC might speed things up, but making an LC takes a bit of time also. If you have LC sitting around, that's probably the fastest route to colonization. As far as spawning to bulk thereafter, FOAF hasn't tried that yet, but there are plenty of bags in the freezer to give that a shot later.

[p2k1]

Using the supercake bags may be best because they would make a better invitro fruiter than the rye obviously so if they finish while Im still waiting on the sandbags to arrive I can start fruiting

[BuckarooBanzai]

Rye is good for spawn but will fruit very poorly invitro.

If you are considering fruiting invitro, definitely go with the supercake bags.

Side by side, Rye will colonize a little quicker than a BRF substrate (supercake). Be sure to knead/mix that BRF once or twice - makes it finish much quicker.

As spawn, the supercake will be better IF you grind/break it up into very small pieces (smaller than the rye grains). All those little pieces are points of inoculation from which growth will start.