Let's make this easy

[redenbacher]

I just want a bunch o' shrooms!

So I just want to buy a kit, buy some syringes and get it over with. What can I get from hippie that will make my life as easy as possible with the greatest results?

Not that he sells syringes of course. But you know what I mean.

[Quadrupliplex]

I have never used them personally but you might want to try hippie's sandbags from Mycrotopia. They say they are a self sufficient terrarium. Then order the syringes from one of the sponsors here. Just an opinion.

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[larshroom]

You could check your local headshop for a kit. That's how I got my start. It included a spore qtip and rye in one bag and poo in another bag. Open the first bag, shake until the qtip drops in the rye and and shake some more. When colonized, add that to the poo bag, shake and wait.

It cost $120 bucks and I got about 20g dry. Of course, I made my own syringes from that and am on my second grow on my own...not including the kit grow.

[zodd]

first of you will want to go with pf cakes. cant go wrong with cakes as long as you follow the basic rules of sterility in your work space.

12 Pack Halfpint PF style Jars
that wight stuff is called myceliom by the way. you get that by inocculating them with a cubi spore syring of your choosing from sporeworks, the good spore, ralphsters. all reputable and reliable vendors.



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now you need to allow the sporse to collanise the mycelioum for two to three weeks give or take. put them asside and forget about them.

now i would definatley gow with quadripliplex's suggestion of mycotopias sandbag if your a begginer. it takes away the biggest cause of falure which is fresh air exchange.


2 'Sandbags' [self sufficient terrarium design in a bag]

now dump you colonised cakes in hear an leave them in a room that has a fan running 24-7. careful not to have the fan pointing at the sand bagg terrarium or your cake will loose there moisture.

at this point the hard work is done its now time to sit back, pic up a book or alternativley watch tv and watch the magic unfold befor your very eyes.
this last bit, known as the fruiting cycle. will take about 1-2 weeks depending on some variables in different growers practises. at which time you will have more mushrooms than you know what to do with. so you may want to look up a good preserving tek.
good luck

[budman]

hi guys, im totaly new to this growing thing, i have researched the basics, i have bought 12 sterile jars with perlite and have 10ml GT spores, how much do i inject into in each individual tub?

also, i have read i need rubbing alcahol for the tip after flaming, can i use any household liquid with similar properties?

i understand the basics to get to the myceline stage, its the growing chamber im confused about. does it have to be sterile like the previous stage? is it 3 hours of light like some say? can i just open it up and spray water when it looks dry (or loss of mosture)?

any help would be awesome.

[Dr.Hallucination.]

Originally Posted by budman

hi guys, im totaly new to this growing thing, i have researched the basics, i have bought 12 sterile jars with perlite and have 10ml GT spores, how much do i inject into in each individual tub?

also, i have read i need rubbing alcahol for the tip after flaming, can i use any household liquid with similar properties?

i understand the basics to get to the myceline stage, its the growing chamber im confused about. does it have to be sterile like the previous stage? is it 3 hours of light like some say? can i just open it up and spray water when it looks dry (or loss of mosture)?

any help would be awesome.

You want to use apx 1cc of spore solution per jar,so 1/4 cc per hole.I wouldn't try and substitute alcohol with anything else though,its fairly cheap to buy.
The fruiting chamber should still be clean,as well as the air around it,but does not have to be a sterile environment.8 hours of light is what I usually use during the fruiting stage.A couple inches of perlite on the bottom,with an air pump and bubble wand/stone with provide ample humidity,but yes you can also mist the sides of the tub when it looks dry.Simply remove the lid,and use it to fan the FC out a few times a day for fresh air exchange.

Hope this helps a bit.....

[viewer6922]

The 'sandbag ala Hippy ' is very simple for the first timers! Much less than 120.00$ for a kit. In fact, the 'sandbag method is a 'kit' by itself, all you need is to buy spores to study under the microscope from a vendor on this site, I will always trust the 'Goodspore', great prices and products. Welcome!

[budman]

thanks DR, great advice, one more question(s), can i use isopropanol alcahol? after i inject the spores, do i reseal the solotape and put in total dark for few weeks or leave off? i think i need to seal them but do they not need oxygen?

[Quadrupliplex]

Some people reseal and some don't. If it has the 1/2 inch layer of vermiculite on top than you will probably be safe from contams even if you don't reseal. I hear that if you do reseal the cake might stop colonizing before it hits 100%. If/when that happens just pull the tape off.

Oh and yes you can use iso alcohol. I use the 90% iso. flame sterilize the needle, swab injection site with iso, I also like to swab my needle with the alc wipe to cool it down, then inject.

[zodd]

get your self some micropore tape from your local pharmacy. sealing is the last thing you want to do. the poors on micropore tape will see that the cake can breath but also that the contaminants stay out.

[budman]

thanks guys, this is awesome info, i wasnt sure about using iso, thought id ask rather than ruining my crop (& cash!) im off to buy some micropore tape!

[redenbacher]

Thanks guys. What works better- tiny PF jars or those super substrate bags? OR tiny super substrate jars?

I'll be buying tonight or tomorrow.

[GadgetGuy]

They will both work fine. While you are at it I would order some Liquid Culture Jars from Mycrotopia. They will make your spores last longer. I would reccomend getting the PF jars from hippie along with a pair of LC jars then in a few weeks when your liquid culture jars are grown out order some spawn bags from hip and really get it going on.

[BuckarooBanzai]

If you get Sandbags, you also need to get something to spawn them with.

I would suggest a supercake bag. Inoculate it, incubate it and fruit it in the bag - no need for any other equipment.

Here is a thread from bozefonce on doing just that:
http://forums.mycotopia.net/fungi-gr...ppie-bags.html (Love those Hippie bags!)

[budman]

hi, i have read that it is good to put to tubs in the fridge for a few days after the tubs turn white after 2-3 weeks, is this advisable, anyone any feedback on this?

[MLBjammer]

No, that is a myth if you are taking about Psilocybe Cubensis. Cold shocking is not beneficial to Cubies.

[weeeeeee]

Originally Posted by Quadrupliplex

I have never used them personally but you might want to try hippie's sandbags from Mycrotopia. They say they are a self sufficient terrarium. Then order the syringes from one of the sponsors here. Just an opinion.

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buy some mycobags from hip and then buy some spores from a sponsor here so you dont get ripped off

those two items in conjunction with a bit o knowledge from the vaults about sterility and all the vaults have to offer should help you indefinitely

one thing i can say is PLEAASE make a glovebox it will save you a major headache

[bugs]

What Buckaroo said. Hippie3's pre-made sandbags and spawn bags, with a sponsor's spores, give you a great chance for success. Just follow good basic procedures.

Or, simplest, just buy a batch of Hip's PF cake jars and 'noc 'em up. Either the glass half-pints or the plastic pints.

Just a personal opinion, but I think you'd be real happy with the Hillbilly strain from The Good Spore. Fast and strong colonizer, big potent fruits.

[Mushxmagik]

Originally Posted by BuckarooBanzai

If you get Sandbags, you also need to get something to spawn them with.

I would suggest a supercake bag. Inoculate it, incubate it and fruit it in the bag - no need for any other equipment.

Here is a thread from bozefonce on doing just that:
http://forums.mycotopia.net/fungi-gr...ppie-bags.html (Love those Hippie bags!)

so just to clarify, using sandbags produce a higher yield than the supercake bags. so all in all wouldnt the sandbags be more worth the time and money seeing as colonization would only take about a week longer? just curious on my best investment. Thanks for any help or suggestions.

[zodd]

sand bags are your fruiting chamber. the super cake is your substrate. place your fully colonised substrait( super cake) in your fruiting chamber( sandbags), then wait till you see mushrooms. its that simple

[MLBjammer]

And all you need is a fan in the grow area to allow indirect airflow for the sandbags. It is the easiest bulk grow tek out there. You will get two nice flushes of shrooms without doing anything except picking them. If you dunk or mist heavily, you can get additional flushes, but the first two flushes of a bulk substrate grow will typically put out around 75% of your harvest. Good luck.

[Mushxmagik]

correct i was just trying to confirm that fruiting with sandbags, wheather spawned with supercake or grain, will still produce a higher yield than just fruiting from the supercake bags. trying to get the best deal for my money. thanks for all info!