Casing a bulk (90QT sterilite tote)

CamelTom · 09-27-09, 07:04

about 3 inches of fully colonized sub on the bottom of the tote
the MYCIL. is reaching out all over the sub like it wants more
i have done some casing but its all been smaller totes and i didnt really get that much more out of them
my Q. is when should i add the casing layer or should i just ride with it and let it do its own thing
30%compost 70%straw strain OI
i would put a pick up but i dont know how

MLBjammer · 09-27-09, 07:30

Well, it's up to you whether or not you case that sub. It will fruit nicely without a casing layer as it is cubensis.

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CamelTom · 09-27-09, 07:53

What would you do???

MLBjammer · 09-27-09, 08:23

I would not case personally. Some growers do. I have tried it a couple times, and I did not see much of a difference in yield.

CamelTom · 09-27-09, 08:31

thanks
So How does she look

CamelTom · 09-27-09, 08:33

i had my cam. at 8 mega pixels so the files were to big
now it works fine thanks

MLBjammer · 09-27-09, 08:51

That tub looks healthy and ready to start fruiting. Nice!

CamelTom · 09-27-09, 09:09

now that i know how to post pics i might turn this to a grow log

Boboso · 09-27-09, 13:28

That tub has some beautiful Rhizo.

You should get a nice fat harvest there...

TastyBeverage · 09-27-09, 13:47

Looking good! I would say go ahead and start fruiting conditions. The main reason for casing a bulk sub is to try to have an even pinset, which ensures that the fruit all mature at the same time. This is different than a cake, which requires the casing for more moisture. But the extra moisture in a bulk is retained by the substrate itself so the casing is not as necessary.

GadgetGuy · 09-27-09, 14:00

Quote:

Originally Posted by CamelTom

thanks
So How does she look

It looks exactly like it should.... Good Job!

I don't case mine either especially in larger tubs like that. It will fruit just fine without. Like MLB I have never personally seen larger yields being directly related to a casing layer.

BGB · 09-27-09, 14:02

Yep, Looks great bro, you are gonna have some monsters!!!! and tons of em! I cant wait to see more pics!

CamelTom · 09-27-09, 18:09

thanks for all the good remarks
about 2 weeks or so and it will look allot better

ill keep u peeps updated

OG Royal Grower · 09-27-09, 22:13

Thats HUGE!

MLBjammer · 09-28-09, 07:16

Quote:

Originally Posted by CamelTom

thanks for all the good remarks
about 2 weeks or so and it will look allot better

ill keep u peeps updated

Maybe not that long, Tom. Good vibes on your grow. Peace.

trainwrecker · 09-28-09, 09:44

I must concur with everyone else on the casing layer. It's just more work cleaning them after harvest. As long as you keep the humidity straight you will have a nice grow.

OZ · 09-28-09, 11:55

So the general consensus these days is that casing isn't even really necessary, if not a pain in the ass that isn't necessary, as long as we keep the sub properly hydrated and the humidity up?

GadgetGuy · 09-28-09, 12:55

Quote:

Originally Posted by OZ

So the general consensus these days is that casing isn't even really necessary, if not a pain in the ass that isn't necessary, as long as we keep the sub properly hydrated and the humidity up?

Well that depends if you ask me, others opinions will differ. The only time I will use a casing layer is if I am breaking up PF cakes into a tray and just fruiting like that with a casing layer, or if casing straight grains like popcorn or rye. I don't use these methods anymore but if I were to use a casing layer, that would be the only time other than growing Pan Cyans.

CamelTom · 09-28-09, 17:58

there is water droplets on the top
how do i fix this i dont want it to start pooling

Jawn · 09-28-09, 18:13

If the water droplets are big enough to dab with a paper towel without touching the sub, take care of 'em that way. Otherwise, they're not big enough to worry about. I've seen many subs fruit like magic, even with dew covering them.

Also, In the subs I've seen, a lot of the excess moisture and all the droplets on the top of your tub will pretty well disappear once you start fruiting conditions.

My $.02.

Good luck!

CamelTom · 09-28-09, 18:52

i sprinkled some coir on it lightly

Jawn · 09-28-09, 19:14

Nice. Just watch out for contams, because once fruiting starts, I have seen people have a hard time getting anything to colonize further, and anything left uncolonized stays that way till the tub is done.

Don't be alarmed or anything, i've had huge sections (half-dollar size and a bit bigger) uncolonized for 2 months without contaminating, but the more you add that won't be colonized, the bigger risk you run. Doesn't sound like you did that, though, so I guess I'm just rambling on.

Good luck, again!

GadgetGuy · 09-28-09, 19:40

Don't forget to post update pics on that monster tub!

CamelTom · 09-28-09, 19:58

a few days ill update
i lightly sprinkled it
u can still see allot of the white

MLBjammer · 09-28-09, 21:17

You're probably okay. Water droplets are normal. Big pools of standing water are what you don't want. Just dab up with a paper towel if you see any.

CamelTom · 10-04-09, 14:58

its starting to knot up
ill post pics when i find my cam

MLBjammer · 10-04-09, 15:04

I didn't think it would take two weeks to pin. I am looking forward to your pics.

CamelTom · 10-04-09, 15:28

the pics would have gone up a wile ago
but my gf likes to hide my stuff on me so i dont know were it is

BuckarooBanzai · 10-04-09, 15:32

Oh yeah, you got knots like a mo-fo in there.

You should be harvesting within the next five days...

marmy · 10-04-09, 22:35

shroomazoomzoom

CamelTom · 10-05-09, 05:58

Quote:

Originally Posted by marmy

shroomazoomzoom

ya zoom zoom shroom shroom
do we have any shroomazons here

LL78 · 10-08-09, 20:16

jesus christ that tub looks fucking epic

<<<first post by the way

GadgetGuy · 10-08-09, 20:23

The tub looks good Tom. Pins ahoy

Cool avatar too

P4ulada · 10-08-09, 21:13

Wow god, giant tub man!
I hope you get shrooms too much bigs like this tub is

CamelTom · 10-08-09, 21:36

Thanks

mushmind · 10-08-09, 23:12

how long ago did you start that tub?

CamelTom · 10-09-09, 05:46

i started that bad boy on 9/19
at 5:30AM

Thre365ive · 10-09-09, 06:21

Personally, casing for me depends on the season. In the Fall and Winter, humidity gets really low here, so it just makes things easier. In late Spring or Summer, it'd just be asking for problems.

CamelTom · 10-10-09, 20:42

still just knots
any idea why its not pinning maybe its just going slow???
wait i saw one pin

mycabis · 10-10-09, 22:33

soon as you see one...... you wont be able to count em 12 hours later congrads..... and pu a pic of those bad boy fruiting

CamelTom · 10-10-09, 22:35

when i c 2 or more pins i will but there is only one now
maybe when i wake up ill put some pics up

BuckarooBanzai · 10-11-09, 01:20

Yah, pics would be good. I would have bet you would be harvesting now now.

What are the temps like?

CamelTom · 10-11-09, 09:29

around 70

MLBjammer · 10-11-09, 09:36

That could make it a little slow, but it's all good since you have pinnage.

CamelTom · 10-11-09, 09:58

CamelTom · 10-11-09, 11:32

see the one pin in the back right corner
in the forth pic

BuckarooBanzai · 10-11-09, 11:45

70F is kind of chilly. That means maybe getting down into the 60s at night?

Any way at all you could warm that area up a few degrees? If you get up to 75F, it would make a huge difference in the speed of growth.

Myc generates heat as it grows. If you could just wrap a couple blankets around the tubs, it would help.

CamelTom · 10-11-09, 11:54

ok ill do that
u dont think the water droplets have any thing to do with it

BuckarooBanzai · 10-11-09, 12:10

Nah. All my bulk subs have those fine water droplets across the surface.

MLBjammer · 10-11-09, 13:04

It looks as if it's ready to take off. I would try wrapping in towels, as BB said.

I did finally see the pin, once you pointed it out!

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CamelTom Here is my BOOM STICK Join Date: Jan 2009 Posts: 118	Casing a bulk (90QT sterilite tote) about 3 inches of fully colonized sub on the bottom of the tote the MYCIL. is reaching out all over the sub like it wants more i have done some casing but its all been smaller totes and i didnt really get that much more out of them my Q. is when should i add the casing layer or should i just ride with it and let it do its own thing 30%compost 70%straw strain OI i would put a pick up but i dont know how __________________ I light up trees like every day is Christmas

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09-27-09, 07:30	#2 (permalink)
MLBjammer Addicted to Invitro Join Date: Mar 2006 Posts: 1,864	Well, it's up to you whether or not you case that sub. It will fruit nicely without a casing layer as it is cubensis. To upload a picture, simply click on "manage attachments" in the "additional options" section of each post reply or thread starter. Then you can upload your pictures--just give it a minute to attach the pics.

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MLBjammer Addicted to Invitro Join Date: Mar 2006 Posts: 1,864	I would not case personally. Some growers do. I have tried it a couple times, and I did not see much of a difference in yield.

09-27-09, 08:51	#7 (permalink)
MLBjammer Addicted to Invitro Join Date: Mar 2006 Posts: 1,864	That tub looks healthy and ready to start fruiting. Nice!

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CamelTom Here is my BOOM STICK Join Date: Jan 2009 Posts: 118	now that i know how to post pics i might turn this to a grow log __________________ I light up trees like every day is Christmas

09-27-09, 13:28	#9 (permalink)
Boboso Boob Join Date: Jun 2009 Posts: 380	That tub has some beautiful Rhizo. You should get a nice fat harvest there... __________________ Rank me amongst the greats, either 1, 2, or 3. If I ain't number 1, I've failed you victory. - Jay-Z

09-27-09, 13:47	#10 (permalink)
TastyBeverage thirsty for more Join Date: Sep 2007 Posts: 2,482	Looking good! I would say go ahead and start fruiting conditions. The main reason for casing a bulk sub is to try to have an even pinset, which ensures that the fruit all mature at the same time. This is different than a cake, which requires the casing for more moisture. But the extra moisture in a bulk is retained by the substrate itself so the casing is not as necessary. __________________ Why do little blue men hit me with fish?

09-27-09, 14:02	#12 (permalink)
BGB the one who ate too many. Join Date: Sep 2009 Posts: 250	Yep, Looks great bro, you are gonna have some monsters!!!! and tons of em! I cant wait to see more pics!

09-27-09, 18:09	#13 (permalink)
CamelTom Here is my BOOM STICK Join Date: Jan 2009 Posts: 118	thanks for all the good remarks about 2 weeks or so and it will look allot better ill keep u peeps updated __________________ I light up trees like every day is Christmas

09-27-09, 22:13	#14 (permalink)
OG Royal Grower Philosopher Join Date: Feb 2007 Posts: 107	Thats HUGE! __________________ “Only in quiet waters do things mirror themselves undistorted. Only in a quiet mind is adequate perception of the world.”

09-28-09, 09:44	#16 (permalink)
trainwrecker Spreader of the spores Join Date: Jul 2007 Posts: 49	I must concur with everyone else on the casing layer. It's just more work cleaning them after harvest. As long as you keep the humidity straight you will have a nice grow. __________________ Arriba la Luna ohea

09-28-09, 11:55	#17 (permalink)
OZ Mycotopiate Join Date: May 2005 Posts: 321	So the general consensus these days is that casing isn't even really necessary, if not a pain in the ass that isn't necessary, as long as we keep the sub properly hydrated and the humidity up?

09-28-09, 17:58	#19 (permalink)
CamelTom Here is my BOOM STICK Join Date: Jan 2009 Posts: 118	there is water droplets on the top how do i fix this i dont want it to start pooling __________________ I light up trees like every day is Christmas

09-28-09, 18:13	#20 (permalink)
Jawn Mycophiliac Join Date: Sep 2009 Posts: 63	If the water droplets are big enough to dab with a paper towel without touching the sub, take care of 'em that way. Otherwise, they're not big enough to worry about. I've seen many subs fruit like magic, even with dew covering them. Also, In the subs I've seen, a lot of the excess moisture and all the droplets on the top of your tub will pretty well disappear once you start fruiting conditions. My $.02. Good luck!

09-28-09, 18:52	#21 (permalink)
CamelTom Here is my BOOM STICK Join Date: Jan 2009 Posts: 118	i sprinkled some coir on it lightly __________________ I light up trees like every day is Christmas

09-28-09, 19:14	#22 (permalink)
Jawn Mycophiliac Join Date: Sep 2009 Posts: 63	Nice. Just watch out for contams, because once fruiting starts, I have seen people have a hard time getting anything to colonize further, and anything left uncolonized stays that way till the tub is done. Don't be alarmed or anything, i've had huge sections (half-dollar size and a bit bigger) uncolonized for 2 months without contaminating, but the more you add that won't be colonized, the bigger risk you run. Doesn't sound like you did that, though, so I guess I'm just rambling on. Good luck, again!

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GadgetGuy Stupid Snowboarder... Join Date: Feb 2009 Posts: 1,311	Don't forget to post update pics on that monster tub! __________________ I have to hold on to the grass or I'll fall off the world!

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CamelTom Here is my BOOM STICK Join Date: Jan 2009 Posts: 118	a few days ill update i lightly sprinkled it u can still see allot of the white __________________ I light up trees like every day is Christmas

09-28-09, 21:17	#25 (permalink)
MLBjammer Addicted to Invitro Join Date: Mar 2006 Posts: 1,864	You're probably okay. Water droplets are normal. Big pools of standing water are what you don't want. Just dab up with a paper towel if you see any.

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CamelTom Here is my BOOM STICK Join Date: Jan 2009 Posts: 118	its starting to knot up ill post pics when i find my cam __________________ I light up trees like every day is Christmas

10-04-09, 15:04	#27 (permalink)
MLBjammer Addicted to Invitro Join Date: Mar 2006 Posts: 1,864	I didn't think it would take two weeks to pin. I am looking forward to your pics.

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BuckarooBanzai Prone to ranting... Join Date: Oct 2005 Posts: 6,050	Oh yeah, you got knots like a mo-fo in there. You should be harvesting within the next five days... __________________ Banzai Institute for Higher Education (a collection of growing Teks & threads)

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GadgetGuy Stupid Snowboarder... Join Date: Feb 2009 Posts: 1,311	The tub looks good Tom. Pins ahoy Cool avatar too __________________ I have to hold on to the grass or I'll fall off the world!

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Thre365ive Alchemycologist Join Date: Jul 2009 Posts: 359	Personally, casing for me depends on the season. In the Fall and Winter, humidity gets really low here, so it just makes things easier. In late Spring or Summer, it'd just be asking for problems. __________________ I stared God in the face and asked his name. He tickled me from the tips of my toes to the tip of my head. I knew that it didn't matter.