If you could culture any fungi...

nra9785 · 09-30-09, 16:14

So I have an opportunity to use my school's lab facilities to culture any fungi Id like as part of an independent study for upper division credit hours.
What are some cool ABSOLUTELY LEGAL mushrooms I could culture.
I am looking for a few varieties, which each have a different preferred substrate, and look freakin' cool. Edible is a plus, but overall, a nice looking mushroom which I could order spores for readily is the goal.

Thanks!

GadgetGuy · 09-30-09, 16:49

You could do Pink and Blue Oysters. I don't know what they need as far as substrate etc. but they are very cool looking shrooms and taste good as well.

Jawn · 09-30-09, 16:53

If I could cultivate any fungi, it would be prototaxites,
http://www-news.uchicago.edu/release...ototaxites.jpg

who wouldn't want one of those growing in a tub?

But seriously, I've always enjoyed King Oysters. Nutritious and delicious.

P4ulada · 09-30-09, 17:14

With HEPA filter and other things? :O

Lucky guy =]

Sideshow · 09-30-09, 18:17

I guess the overriding factor is the ease of cultivation; oysters are the easiest for the most part.
I would like to grow enoki, shitake, or panellus stipticus (luminecsent mushroom) given the time or resources.

Enoki
http://sporeworks.com/store/catalog/Flammulina-velutipes--Enoki-Mushroom-Commercial-White-p-16314.html

Shitake
http://sporeworks.com/store/catalog/Lentinula-edodes-Lentinus-edodes--Shiitake-Mushroom-p-16141.html

Panellus Stipticus
http://sporeworks.com/store/catalog/Panellus-stipticus--Luminescent-Panellus-p-16144.html

nra9785 · 10-01-09, 00:12

Thanks for the suggestions guys!
Im going to look into some more and find out the substrate preferences, etc...

So overall Id like my cultivation efforts to include going from spore or spawn onto/into liquid/semisolid/solid growth media, then transferring to larger substrate, then, finally, to fruit and print.

Looks like the following will be available to me:
Any agar, broth, or semisolid media in the store rooms; unlimited inoculation loops, petri dishes, syringes, and other "expendable" laboratory supplies, and my own flow hood (granted I will be shoved off into some far corner of some biochem lab/store room), and, finally and most importantly, the autoclave.

If I do any kind of jar spawn, should i use the same specs as using a PC for the jars? as far as temp and pressure? Or is there a better technique? Love to hear it!

Right now I am waiting on a check to get the spores, etc...

Thanks for the input! keep it combing!

kcmoxtractor · 10-01-09, 00:32

The Lion's Mane looks really cool as well!
http://sporeworks.com/store/catalog/...m-p-16140.html

I would go to Sporeworks edibles page, it has approximate difficulties, preferred substrates, and colonization/fruiting temperatures on each species.
http://sporeworks.com/store/catalog/...p-1-c-248.html

Thre365ive · 10-01-09, 04:08

You may not have time, but I'd go with some shiitakes. They don't seem to be that difficult, but they're fucking tasty. If you're just going for a grade, try to cultivate some trich or cobweb or penicillum or something. It can't be too hard. I've had all three on accident before.

If you want any growing parameters out of TMC, you can PM me. I'd be happy to send some info in trade for some pics of the results. Or even if you can't get pics, I'll send info.

/drunkpoast

Deus Irae · 10-01-09, 11:35

I'd like to second the lions mane for consideration.
They look cool, they're really easy to grow and they form the toughest BRF cakes I've ever handled. Almost latex like in consistency. Makes for a very interesting grow.

TastyBeverage · 10-01-09, 16:24

Lion's mane is a super cool looking fungi and it is delicious! It's a woodlover so you can use wood chips or sawdust. I've grown them on shaved aspen from the pet store. They colonize pretty fast, but can be slow to fruit. I have no idea how to print them though.

Oysters will give you the most bang for your buck. Extremely prolific, fast colonizers and fast fruiters. They are also woodlovers, but will eat just about anything organic, really. They do great on shredded newspaper. They also spore like CRAZY. They'll form little spore icicles off of the caps if you let them go too long. Be careful if that happens, breathing in a lot of spores can cause health issues. There are some really pretty color options available as well-- the Phoenix oyster is bright, flamingo pink and the golden oyster is a bright canary yellow. The blue oyster is more of a bluish gun metal grey, but it's tastier than the other 2 and will fruit at lower temps. The phoenix oyster especially likes very warm temps.

(neo)Figment · 10-01-09, 16:30

Oysters are easy and tasty! Multi colored too.

Hatch_ · 10-01-09, 16:38

ANY mushroom. ???

G. lucidum. I don’t know if that’s possible but be pretty cool.

Myc · 10-02-09, 09:49

Quote:

Originally Posted by Hatch_

ANY mushroom. ???

G. lucidum. I don’t know if that’s possible but be pretty cool.

Reishi is totally possible to do indoors.
http://forums.mycotopia.net/edible-m...a-lucidum.html (Reishi - Ganoderma Lucidum)

Most gourmets are very simple and respond well to lab culture.
I hope you can get some ideas from here too:
http://forums.mycotopia.net/edible-m...e-growlog.html (Shiitake Growlog)
http://forums.mycotopia.net/exotic-m...ent-fungi.html (Panellus Stipticus - bioluminescent fungi)
http://forums.mycotopia.net/edible-m...e-project.html (Shiitake project)
http://forums.mycotopia.net/photo-ga...l-oysters.html (Pleurotus Ostreatus - Pearl Oysters)

But the question was 'If I could culture any fungus.....'
That would have to be a toss-up between Chantrelles or Morels - whoever figures out lab culture of either species is destined to be very wealthy.

nra9785 · 10-02-09, 14:20

MmmmMmmMmmm Chantrelles.

Thanks for the links, Ill read up a little more, and figure out what the game plan is.

Thanks again for all the input!

Heisenberg · 10-05-09, 19:00

I'd love to try Cordyceps Militaris, Troopin Cordyceps. It's about time for me to get up in the mountains and obtain specimen to clone and isolate strains. Big money with these babies.

TVCasualty · 10-05-09, 20:27

I also think one of the Cordyceps species would be cool; if you want a variety of substrates to grow from, dead insects get extra points for novelty.

One that infects ants might be nice, then if you got a good strain cultured you could use it to eradicate ant infestations at home. You'd probably want to grow the mycelium out on agar, then grain, then try to infect ants (in an ant farm or something... don't tell PETA!) with either spores directly or the mycelium on rice as bait. That would be more practical than collecting a tray full of dead ants, I guess. It'd be cool to see pictures of an ant farm full of ants that had little mushrooms popping out of their heads (it'd be kind of like a miniature zombie movie except the ants aren't undead, they're just dead). I bet it would make a good Halloween display, too.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Myc

But the question was 'If I could culture any fungus.....'
That would have to be a toss-up between Chantrelles or Morels - whoever figures out lab culture of either species is destined to be very wealthy.

It's already been done for morels. A good friend of mine worked at the only company I know of that grew them indoors (or tried to). The business failed from management issues and the much trickier problem of evolving from small proof-of-concept grows up to commercial scale, at least that's the vague understanding I have about it. They did prove the concept very well, and so some venture capital came pouring in but I don't know the specifics of why it ultimately didn't work out. The technique is not a secret anymore and I've seen it online (may even be posted here somewhere) but the real trick to it is finding the right strain (technique alone won't cut it, the secret's in the sauce).

And I'm so demented I actually have what I think is a viable theory for culturing chanterelles and fruiting them under controlled conditions, but testing it is a couple years down the road (lots of reading to do first).

Heisenberg · 10-05-09, 21:28

I'd put more effort of culturing Morel outdoors than Chanties indoors or whatever. You can harvest a shit ton of Chanties in season, but Morels are a bit more challenging to hunt and have a different season. Morels have been cultivated outdoors.(Mycellium Running). Plus, Morel brings in the big bucks($150 lb), Chanties are cheap as fuck($5.00 lb).

extrememetal43 · 10-05-09, 23:09

pan cyans - i have tried like 7 times, i actually lost count, and just cannot get them right or they contam or whatever. i think the 8th time will be the charm.

TVCasualty · 10-06-09, 08:45

Quote:

Originally Posted by Heisenberg

I'd put more effort of culturing Morel outdoors than Chanties indoors or whatever. You can harvest a shit ton of Chanties in season, but Morels are a bit more challenging to hunt and have a different season. Morels have been cultivated outdoors.(Mycellium Running). Plus, Morel brings in the big bucks($150 lb), Chanties are cheap as fuck($5.00 lb).

Sure, but if my theory works for chanterelles it will most likely work for truffles as well.

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09-30-09, 16:14	#1 (permalink)
nra9785 Ecologist in Training Join Date: Oct 2008 Posts: 245	If you could culture any fungi... So I have an opportunity to use my school's lab facilities to culture any fungi Id like as part of an independent study for upper division credit hours. What are some cool ABSOLUTELY LEGAL mushrooms I could culture. I am looking for a few varieties, which each have a different preferred substrate, and look freakin' cool. Edible is a plus, but overall, a nice looking mushroom which I could order spores for readily is the goal. Thanks! __________________ -~Shalom Aleichem~-

09-30-09, 16:49	#2 (permalink)
GadgetGuy Stupid Snowboarder... Join Date: Feb 2009 Posts: 1,311	You could do Pink and Blue Oysters. I don't know what they need as far as substrate etc. but they are very cool looking shrooms and taste good as well. __________________ I have to hold on to the grass or I'll fall off the world!

09-30-09, 18:17	#5 (permalink)
Sideshow Freakishly Large Join Date: Sep 2007 Posts: 353	I guess the overriding factor is the ease of cultivation; oysters are the easiest for the most part. I would like to grow enoki, shitake, or panellus stipticus (luminecsent mushroom) given the time or resources. Enoki http://sporeworks.com/store/catalog/Flammulina-velutipes--Enoki-Mushroom-Commercial-White-p-16314.html Shitake http://sporeworks.com/store/catalog/Lentinula-edodes-Lentinus-edodes--Shiitake-Mushroom-p-16141.html Panellus Stipticus http://sporeworks.com/store/catalog/Panellus-stipticus--Luminescent-Panellus-p-16144.html __________________ Thank you, Mr. Mason

10-01-09, 00:12	#6 (permalink)
nra9785 Ecologist in Training Join Date: Oct 2008 Posts: 245	Thanks for the suggestions guys! Im going to look into some more and find out the substrate preferences, etc... So overall Id like my cultivation efforts to include going from spore or spawn onto/into liquid/semisolid/solid growth media, then transferring to larger substrate, then, finally, to fruit and print. Looks like the following will be available to me: Any agar, broth, or semisolid media in the store rooms; unlimited inoculation loops, petri dishes, syringes, and other "expendable" laboratory supplies, and my own flow hood (granted I will be shoved off into some far corner of some biochem lab/store room), and, finally and most importantly, the autoclave. If I do any kind of jar spawn, should i use the same specs as using a PC for the jars? as far as temp and pressure? Or is there a better technique? Love to hear it! Right now I am waiting on a check to get the spores, etc... Thanks for the input! keep it combing! __________________ -~Shalom Aleichem~-

09-30-09, 16:53	#3 (permalink)
Jawn Mycophiliac Join Date: Sep 2009 Posts: 63	If I could cultivate any fungi, it would be prototaxites, http://www-news.uchicago.edu/release...ototaxites.jpg who wouldn't want one of those growing in a tub? But seriously, I've always enjoyed King Oysters. Nutritious and delicious.

09-30-09, 17:14	#4 (permalink)
P4ulada Mycotopiate Join Date: Feb 2009 Posts: 696	With HEPA filter and other things? :O Lucky guy =]

10-01-09, 00:32	#7 (permalink)
kcmoxtractor Satan's Helper Join Date: Jun 2008 Posts: 1,349	The Lion's Mane looks really cool as well! http://sporeworks.com/store/catalog/...m-p-16140.html I would go to Sporeworks edibles page, it has approximate difficulties, preferred substrates, and colonization/fruiting temperatures on each species. http://sporeworks.com/store/catalog/...p-1-c-248.html __________________ "It was the straying that found the path direct" - Austin Osman Spare

10-01-09, 04:08	#8 (permalink)
Thre365ive Alchemycologist Join Date: Jul 2009 Posts: 359	You may not have time, but I'd go with some shiitakes. They don't seem to be that difficult, but they're fucking tasty. If you're just going for a grade, try to cultivate some trich or cobweb or penicillum or something. It can't be too hard. I've had all three on accident before. If you want any growing parameters out of TMC, you can PM me. I'd be happy to send some info in trade for some pics of the results. Or even if you can't get pics, I'll send info. /drunkpoast __________________ I stared God in the face and asked his name. He tickled me from the tips of my toes to the tip of my head. I knew that it didn't matter.

10-01-09, 11:35	#9 (permalink)
Deus Irae Mycophiliac Join Date: Aug 2009 Posts: 20	I'd like to second the lions mane for consideration. They look cool, they're really easy to grow and they form the toughest BRF cakes I've ever handled. Almost latex like in consistency. Makes for a very interesting grow.

10-01-09, 16:24	#10 (permalink)
TastyBeverage thirsty for more Join Date: Sep 2007 Posts: 2,482	Lion's mane is a super cool looking fungi and it is delicious! It's a woodlover so you can use wood chips or sawdust. I've grown them on shaved aspen from the pet store. They colonize pretty fast, but can be slow to fruit. I have no idea how to print them though. Oysters will give you the most bang for your buck. Extremely prolific, fast colonizers and fast fruiters. They are also woodlovers, but will eat just about anything organic, really. They do great on shredded newspaper. They also spore like CRAZY. They'll form little spore icicles off of the caps if you let them go too long. Be careful if that happens, breathing in a lot of spores can cause health issues. There are some really pretty color options available as well-- the Phoenix oyster is bright, flamingo pink and the golden oyster is a bright canary yellow. The blue oyster is more of a bluish gun metal grey, but it's tastier than the other 2 and will fruit at lower temps. The phoenix oyster especially likes very warm temps. __________________ Why do little blue men hit me with fish?

10-01-09, 16:30	#11 (permalink)
(neo)Figment Lets rot some poop! Join Date: Mar 2007 Posts: 323	Oysters are easy and tasty! Multi colored too. __________________ "If you don't like my fire then don't come around, cause I'm gonna burn one down."

10-01-09, 16:38	#12 (permalink)
Hatch_ In The Jesus Hippy hole Join Date: Mar 2009 Posts: 50	ANY mushroom. ??? G. lucidum. I don’t know if that’s possible but be pretty cool. __________________ The trouble with the rat race is that even if you win, you're still a rat

10-02-09, 14:20	#14 (permalink)
nra9785 Ecologist in Training Join Date: Oct 2008 Posts: 245	MmmmMmmMmmm Chantrelles. Thanks for the links, Ill read up a little more, and figure out what the game plan is. Thanks again for all the input! __________________ -~Shalom Aleichem~-

10-05-09, 19:00	#15 (permalink)
Heisenberg Mycophiliac Join Date: Jul 2009 Posts: 51	I'd love to try Cordyceps Militaris, Troopin Cordyceps. It's about time for me to get up in the mountains and obtain specimen to clone and isolate strains. Big money with these babies.

10-05-09, 21:28	#17 (permalink)
Heisenberg Mycophiliac Join Date: Jul 2009 Posts: 51	I'd put more effort of culturing Morel outdoors than Chanties indoors or whatever. You can harvest a shit ton of Chanties in season, but Morels are a bit more challenging to hunt and have a different season. Morels have been cultivated outdoors.(Mycellium Running). Plus, Morel brings in the big bucks($150 lb), Chanties are cheap as fuck($5.00 lb).

10-05-09, 23:09	#18 (permalink)
extrememetal43 The Jester's Mad Chemist Join Date: Apr 2008 Posts: 1,204	pan cyans - i have tried like 7 times, i actually lost count, and just cannot get them right or they contam or whatever. i think the 8th time will be the charm. __________________ Pantera told me to smoke DMT!

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