Steaming and PF Cake help

Invalid Comfort · 03-16-06, 17:58

Today a foaf had the oppurtunity to steam a dozen jars in anticipation for the arrival of syringes.

He has some questions and some obvious observations.

"Duh" Observation 1: Don't use tap water while steaming, or anytime water needs to be evaporated. the tap water here is very hard, and has a high chlorine content. my foaf will purchase some distalled water and use it next time. There are harness marks from where the water that was used in the pot.

See picture below of the spacing jars so I could put enough water to leave alone for a couple of hours when I had to go out and couldn't watch the stove.

Is there anything that can be used get the jars nice and crystal clean again?

Question 1: I do have a gallon of spring water that I bought, I just forgot to use it. I used the tap water in my substrate... Will the jars be ok? Do I need to remake the substrate and re-steam with spring water?

My foaf decided to use fresh ground brown rice instad of store bought flour, but the grinder used did not completely "grind". It chopped very finely, you could still see peices of rice in the "flour".

Will this affect the substrate? I'm looking at one of my jars right now, and because of the tempature raise and steaming of the jars, it actually cooked the rice. No water got inside the jars from the steaming itself, just the water from the substrate itself.

The jars themselves are cooling in the box they came in, covered with foil to attempt to keep out airbornes, in my closet.

There's still 2 more dozen jars to make, and I wanted to know what errors I made this time around so I can get the best results possible with my noobishness!

[I was really surprised as to how hot the jars were, but satisfied to know that the steaming did the job it was supposed too. as soon as they cooled enough to be moved, they had to be handled with a towel as they burned fingers. Had to move them do to space concerns & roommates]

Now off to work!

`Johnathon

Hippie3 · 03-16-06, 18:06

steam with tap,
use the bottled in your substrate.
those mineral deposits are no big deal,
soapy water.

chunky rice is fine.

should leave jars in covered pot until cool.

did you see http://forums.mycotopia.net/showthread.php?t=8568 (my first grow :) [success steaming pf jars])

python · 03-16-06, 18:59

steam 45-60 min at 15 psi only...........i also use tap in steaming container.........and usually spring or distilled for all other needs but i have used tap in substrates before.(dont really like it)..........

Invalid Comfort · 03-17-06, 17:48

Quote:

Originally Posted by Hippie3

steam with tap,
use the bottled in your substrate.
those mineral deposits are no big deal,
soapy water.

chunky rice is fine.

should leave jars in covered pot until cool.

did you see http://forums.mycotopia.net/showthread.php?t=8568 (my first grow :) [success steaming pf jars])

what is the purpose of leaving the jars in the pot until they cool?

stovetop reality comes at a price, so the pot couldn't stay there overnight.

Yes, I've read through that thread before, but I'm not exactly sure of the relevance.

Invalid Comfort · 03-17-06, 17:49

Quote:

Originally Posted by python

steam 45-60 min at 15 psi only...........i also use tap in steaming container.........and usually spring or distilled for all other needs but i have used tap in substrates before.(dont really like it)..........

I just have a big canning that i use because I can't afford a big PC yet, haven't found one around in thrift shops yet either. I shall continue to quest though!

Hippie3 · 03-17-06, 19:37

you can move the pot,
just don't remove the lid
until it cools.
why ?
because it's now extemely clean inside,
until you remove the lid.
since the jars are hot,
the air pressure inside is different
than outside,
as they cool
they suck in air.
now,
it just makes sense to allow that to occur
in a clean place.
that way risk of contams is lowered.

as for link relevance-
it's meant to help 'inform' you,
up to you
how you
capitalize on that.

Invalid Comfort · 03-17-06, 20:38

Quote:

Originally Posted by Hippie3

as for link relevance-
it's meant to help 'inform' you,
up to you
how you
capitalize on that.

haha. gotcha

. I don't post anywhere near as much as I read. I simmer in the vaults mostly though [:

toadshroom · 09-10-09, 15:35

putting a little bit of white vinegar in your steaming water will get rid of the cloudy powder residue that's left behind from the evaporation of the water.

threesixty · 09-10-09, 16:04

Quote:

Originally Posted by toadshroom

putting a little bit of white vinegar in your steaming water will get rid of the cloudy powder residue that's left behind from the evaporation of the water.

Great tip toadshroom, definitely filing that one away for later!

Sideshow · 09-10-09, 18:02

Quote:

Originally Posted by toadshroom

putting a little bit of white vinegar in your steaming water will get rid of the cloudy powder residue that's left behind from the evaporation of the water.

I agree, that's a good tip I never heard before

toadshroom · 09-13-09, 20:55

the manual that came with my pc said that it would help and it didn't lie! Honestly though, I think that's the only thing I read in the manual lol

BuckarooBanzai · 09-13-09, 21:36

If you use an All American to PC, distilled water is strongly suggested in the operations manual.

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03-16-06, 17:58	#1 (permalink)
Invalid Comfort Brother Pinja Join Date: Feb 2006 Posts: 92	Steaming and PF Cake help Today a foaf had the oppurtunity to steam a dozen jars in anticipation for the arrival of syringes. He has some questions and some obvious observations. "Duh" Observation 1: Don't use tap water while steaming, or anytime water needs to be evaporated. the tap water here is very hard, and has a high chlorine content. my foaf will purchase some distalled water and use it next time. There are harness marks from where the water that was used in the pot. See picture below of the spacing jars so I could put enough water to leave alone for a couple of hours when I had to go out and couldn't watch the stove. Is there anything that can be used get the jars nice and crystal clean again? Question 1: I do have a gallon of spring water that I bought, I just forgot to use it. I used the tap water in my substrate... Will the jars be ok? Do I need to remake the substrate and re-steam with spring water? My foaf decided to use fresh ground brown rice instad of store bought flour, but the grinder used did not completely "grind". It chopped very finely, you could still see peices of rice in the "flour". Will this affect the substrate? I'm looking at one of my jars right now, and because of the tempature raise and steaming of the jars, it actually cooked the rice. No water got inside the jars from the steaming itself, just the water from the substrate itself. The jars themselves are cooling in the box they came in, covered with foil to attempt to keep out airbornes, in my closet. There's still 2 more dozen jars to make, and I wanted to know what errors I made this time around so I can get the best results possible with my noobishness! [I was really surprised as to how hot the jars were, but satisfied to know that the steaming did the job it was supposed too. as soon as they cooled enough to be moved, they had to be handled with a towel as they burned fingers. Had to move them do to space concerns & roommates] Now off to work! `Johnathon Attached Thumbnails

03-16-06, 18:06	#2 (permalink)
Hippie3 DUNG DEALER Join Date: Feb 2001 Posts: 43,266	steam with tap, use the bottled in your substrate. those mineral deposits are no big deal, soapy water. chunky rice is fine. should leave jars in covered pot until cool. did you see http://forums.mycotopia.net/showthread.php?t=8568 (my first grow :) [success steaming pf jars]) __________________ visit dial-a-hippie .

03-17-06, 19:37	#6 (permalink)
Hippie3 DUNG DEALER Join Date: Feb 2001 Posts: 43,266	you can move the pot, just don't remove the lid until it cools. why ? because it's now extemely clean inside, until you remove the lid. since the jars are hot, the air pressure inside is different than outside, as they cool they suck in air. now, it just makes sense to allow that to occur in a clean place. that way risk of contams is lowered. as for link relevance- it's meant to help 'inform' you, up to you how you capitalize on that. __________________ visit dial-a-hippie .

09-13-09, 21:36	#12 (permalink)
BuckarooBanzai Prone to ranting... Join Date: Oct 2005 Posts: 6,050	If you use an All American to PC, distilled water is strongly suggested in the operations manual. __________________ Banzai Institute for Higher Education (a collection of growing Teks & threads)

03-16-06, 18:59	#3 (permalink)
python Former Member Join Date: Apr 1973 Posts: 2,650	steam 45-60 min at 15 psi only...........i also use tap in steaming container.........and usually spring or distilled for all other needs but i have used tap in substrates before.(dont really like it)..........

09-10-09, 15:35	#8 (permalink)
toadshroom Mycotopiate Join Date: Apr 2009 Posts: 247	putting a little bit of white vinegar in your steaming water will get rid of the cloudy powder residue that's left behind from the evaporation of the water.

09-13-09, 20:55	#11 (permalink)
toadshroom Mycotopiate Join Date: Apr 2009 Posts: 247	the manual that came with my pc said that it would help and it didn't lie! Honestly though, I think that's the only thing I read in the manual lol

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