safe natural ecstasy?

[faith6454]

Is there such a thing as safe, natural, legal ecstasy? If so, does it work and where can I buy it? any experiences would be greatly appreciated.

[weeeeeee]

yeah there is its called house music and its super free....



.... just playing but im pretty sure there is no "safe" or legal ecstasy that you speak of although i dont really find much unsafe about real ecstasy at least not for my body

[teesus]

the herbals i tryed years ago made a more hang over than real e, but less effects...don't know about herbals in our days,thoug

[bear]

Hint: all the good stuff is illegal.

[livewire420]

this is true

Originally Posted by bear

Hint: all the good stuff is illegal.

[the_heretic]

yeah,
nothing squeezes every drop of serotonin out of you like pure illegal MDMA.

it seems that the old herbal shit was ephedra packed and ready to give you a heart attack...ephedra bad...

[aumbrellaforainydays]

Ephedra sinica, known in Chinese as ma huang.
total alkaloid content of 1–3% by dry weight.
Ephedrine constitutes 40–90% of the alkaloid content

been used in chinese medicine for 5000 years.
so if you need a stimulant, should work, but tea and house music!

[lysergic]

Originally Posted by aumbrellaforainydays

Ephedra sinica, known in Chinese as ma huang.
total alkaloid content of 1–3% by dry weight.
Ephedrine constitutes 40–90% of the alkaloid content

been used in chinese medicine for 5000 years.
so if you need a stimulant, should work, but tea and house music!

I don't know if I would call ephedra "natural ecstasy." Natural speed maybe...

[Looky]

Originally Posted by lysergic

I don't know if I would call ephedra "natural ecstasy." Natural speed maybe...

I agree. Ecstasy, if it is pressed into a pill, is cut with either speed or heroin. That would be the only reason that Ephedra could imitate E IMO, would be the similarities between the E cut with speed. Ephedra has not ever felt like MDMA to me, and I have taken a lot of ephedra in the past.

[mystic]

Weeeeeeee thanks for the tune Bro. Herbal X

[sic]

Originally Posted by Lookyhere

I agree. Ecstasy, if it is pressed into a pill, is cut with either speed or heroin. That would be the only reason that Ephedra could imitate E IMO, would be the similarities between the E cut with speed. Ephedra has not ever felt like MDMA to me, and I have taken a lot of ephedra in the past.

Looky, no disrespect but it is has never been cost efficient for people to cut mdma with heroin! mdma cut with speed is a different story and rationale!

faith, ecstacy is a slang term!

[Looky]

Originally Posted by sic

Looky, no disrespect but it is has never been cost efficient for people to cut mdma with heroin! mdma cut with speed is a different story and rationale!

faith, ecstacy is a slang term!

I appreciate the correction. I always thought that if you felt really up and speedy while rolling it was most likely cut with speed or ephedra, and apparently even caffeine. I thought that if you felt really mellow and layed back, like you just sunk into qa couch and didn't want to move it was cut with heroin. That's what I was told way back when, but I guess that's wrong. I have only taken E 3 or 4 times. I have felt the really speedy and I have also felt the other wher I didn't want to move at all, I wonder what that shit was cut with then. Shit probably tylenol PM or Benedryl.

[golly]

A low mescaline dose may be somewhat like mdma ,I think the two are chemically similar in some way..

[bear]

Yeah, they aren't really but they're both very cool.

[weeeeeee]

Originally Posted by Lookyhere

I appreciate the correction. I always thought that if you felt really up and speedy while rolling it was most likely cut with speed or ephedra, and apparently even caffeine. I thought that if you felt really mellow and layed back, like you just sunk into qa couch and didn't want to move it was cut with heroin. That's what I was told way back when, but I guess that's wrong. I have only taken E 3 or 4 times. I have felt the really speedy and I have also felt the other wher I didn't want to move at all, I wonder what that shit was cut with then. Shit probably tylenol PM or Benedryl.

yeah im sure someone has put some boy in a pill before but it doesnt usually happen it doesnt even make sense that chilled out feeling you talk about is from a good clean roll some pure mdma can get you crunk as fuck and super chill your eyes get all get super crunk looking not all fucking ripped apart and wide open like when you are on some speeedy shit

[TVCasualty]

I've read test reports listing a mix of cocaine and DXM as the active ingredients found in a high percentage of pressed pills.

[topper]

there are many derogitives of mdma like mda which give you different effects,pills are usually cut with speed,ketamine , lsd,ephidrine but not heroin its not cost effective when i say cut i mean pills have different have combination to give its brand its uniquness, i.e doves, denis the menis,rhubarb and custards, new yorkers,snowballs etc no herbal pill will be like the real thing. you can buy herbal pills from head shop suppliers

[Looky]

Originally Posted by sic

Looky, no disrespect but it is has never been cost efficient for people to cut mdma with heroin! mdma cut with speed is a different story and rationale!
faith, ecstacy is a slang term!

I have already responded to this once, but I feel I need to add to it. Listen the the way sic corrected me. I always would like to be corrected if I'm wrong. I don't ever mean to or want to pass on wrong information. There are other places (I don't need to name it/them) that the response to my incorrect statement would have been something more along the lines of "dude you're fucking stupid, E isn't cut with heroin, that makes no fucking sense, get your shit right, etc...." That is a really big reason I love this place and the people on here. Respect.

[jmtx]

Originally Posted by topper

there are many derogitives of mdma like mda which give you different effects,pills are usually cut with speed,ketamine , lsd,ephidrine but not heroin its not cost effective when i say cut i mean pills have different have combination to give its brand its uniquness, i.e doves, denis the menis,rhubarb and custards, new yorkers,snowballs etc no herbal pill will be like the real thing. you can buy herbal pills from head shop suppliers

well in the Midwest alot of e is cut with h, and a foaf says that the best e is cut with it, but me id rather have pure 100mg mdma

[Looky]

Originally Posted by jmtx

well in the Midwest alot of e is cut with h, and a foaf says that the best e is cut with it, but me id rather have pure 100mg mdma

Like I said before I have only done E 4 times maybe. I have had a LOT of friends that used to do it every other day. This was in the midwest. That is where I had been told about it being cut with H, but I honestly don't know very much about it, and from googling most of what I read was that Ephedra and speed and caffeine are the usual cuts.

[topper]

im no bio chemist but af far as i no and have read its just scaremungering , ppl say some pills are smacky thats an effect that some derogatives give you (mong you out) ,there are a few books on E and they go through the different brands of E doves etc and thier chemical ingrediance. thats not sayin someome has got hold of a press or capsules and made a small batch with heroin in them.

[roc]

Originally Posted by golly

A low mescaline dose may be somewhat like mdma ,I think the two are chemically similar in some way..

Yes sir... been there done that!

Best advice of the thread imho.

[sangraal]

Originally Posted by roc

Yes sir... been there done that!

Best advice of the thread imho.

Good advice on the Mescaline, agreed, but it's still illegal. 5-MeO-DIPT ("Foxy") is also very similar in effect to Ex and, IMHO, better... used to be easily acquired through RC retailers 'til the Drug Warrior$ got crazy and soon made it a Schedule I substance around '01. God bless all those tryptamines, but as already said, all of the good things are illegal. If any of those 'herbal ecstasy' blends found in magazines and headshops were anything close, be assured they would also be illegal.

[roc]

Right you are my friend...

[DJTetsu]

Originally Posted by sangraal

Good advice on the Mescaline, agreed, but it's still illegal. 5-MeO-DIPT ("Foxy") is also very similar in effect to Ex and, IMHO, better... used to be easily acquired through RC retailers 'til the Drug Warrior$ got crazy and soon made it a Schedule I substance around '01. God bless all those tryptamines, but as already said, all of the good things are illegal. If any of those 'herbal ecstasy' blends found in magazines and headshops were anything close, be assured they would also be illegal.

Holy cow. This got me very interested in trying to grow some. Do i just get catcus cuttings and sit and wait? How much do I need? Any basic tips?

[prism]

Originally Posted by DJTetsu

Holy cow. This got me very interested in trying to grow some. Do i just get catcus cuttings and sit and wait? How much do I need? Any basic tips?

Have Patience... The only advise I can give...

[sangraal]

Agreed- Patience!

You can get cuttings and they're not really that hard to maintain or you can get seeds and start from scratch, but don't expect to be indulging anytime soon. I've tried growing Trichocereus peruvianus (Peruvian Torch) but had very minimal success. It's fun, though, if you have the patience and are willing to wait and since the mescaline-bearing cacti can be assimilated into room decor (thus making the intentions discreet), it's well worth it IMHO.

There's a few grow logs for cacti here on Mycotopia and the information contained therein supersedes any amount of information I could manage to give you. These forums should definitely help.