Radical Pruning in a Closet Environment - Page 2

spesh1 · 04-20-08, 02:09

Bump this for 4-20. Inspiring work man!!!

tobynutz · 05-03-08, 04:20

can this be done in soil as well? i normall do all hydro but right now i just have 5 soil plants going and was thinking about trying this out

Sunstar · 05-03-08, 08:49

Nice job Procell. Awesome grow.

procell · 05-03-08, 12:33

Quote:

Originally Posted by tobynutz

can this be done in soil as well? i normall do all hydro but right now i just have 5 soil plants going and was thinking about trying this out

.

This tek was developed to use in a closet hydro setting where space, lumens, and air flow are at a premium and the hydro causes the plant to grow somewhat faster than soil. So in a soil setting, in a larger room, the pruning/pinching of the tops is still applicable but the fan leaf removal does not need to be as extreme.

.

procell · 06-01-08, 02:39

.

It has come to my attention that in concocting this thread, 2 grows were combined to illustrate the point. Since there were no images from the beginning of the grow a different grow was used for that phase stating the start was from seed. That was not the case, it was started from a female clone. This could become an issue when stressing plants of unknown sex from seed as it may force more to go male . . .

.

warriorsoul · 06-01-08, 09:05

What was your bud weight 128 grams?
how much time was that total?
You could get better results by not pruning, in a shorter period of time.

Anyway, its always nice to see others passionate about growing, nice work!
check out my grow when you get chance.

procell · 06-01-08, 12:16

Quote:

Originally Posted by warriorsoul

What was your bud weight 128 grams?
how much time was that total?
You could get better results by not pruning, in a shorter period of time.

.

I beg to differ. The one plant that was trimmed, produced close to 4 ozs of bud while the identical strain grown next to it (un-pruned) produced less than 1 oz. Most of the people here growing in small closets rarely get a 4 oz yield per plant.
Once again I must stress the fan leaf removal was imperative to this tek in a SMALL closet environment. The fan leaf removal will be debatable forever. My collective prefers it in these situations it has reduced the mold problems completely and as an added benefit it seems to slow spread of mites since they have less long term area to settle in..
Top pruning and bending is undeniably the way to make bushes.
As far as time goes, the longer you veg, the bigger the plant. Flowering times are flower times, can't change them. It was veged for 6 weeks and flowered for 9-13. Variable harvest times.
We are more interested in producing buds not leaves.

.

warriorsoul · 06-01-08, 13:12

hey its all good... your having fun, and thats what counts.

what do you think of the sea of green?

procell · 06-01-08, 14:55

Quote:

Originally Posted by warriorsoul

hey its all good... your having fun, and thats what counts.
what do you think of the sea of green?

yeah! If you got the room . . .

warriorsoul · 06-01-08, 15:29

sog is all about maximizing space.

procell · 06-05-08, 20:25

.

Well after changing nutes for this run on DSOTS's recommendation the plant has become a most lovely dark green . . .
Days from harvest, 400hps, Ebb & Flo, botanicare pro flower

.

Walls Have Teeth · 06-06-08, 15:13

simply amazing for one plant!!!

procell · 06-06-08, 15:27

Quote:

Originally Posted by sinthetic

very nice.
i'd like to see an lst grow employing radical pruning. (no topping / pinching, keep the stem tied down)

.

It would work just fine but I believe the yield would be lower.
It is my belief that more branches will create more bud sites than stretching the existing branches.
That, and the bud at the top of a branch is usually danker than the popcorn lower down

.

Walls Have Teeth · 06-07-08, 00:19

I don't think LST would be practical when radical pruning was used... I may be completely wrong but it would seem as unnecessary added stress ( even though its not much), without a gain in fruit.

procell · 06-07-08, 11:46

Quote:

Originally Posted by Walls Have Teeth

I don't think LST would be practical when radical pruning was used... I may be completely wrong but it would seem as unnecessary added stress ( even though its not much), without a gain in fruit.

.

Ok, let me get this straight, LST is Low Stress Training?
If it is, then we always use it. Our plants have to be trained like bonsai plants to be made to fit in the closets. That's why most of the boxes have chickenwire on the walls to create as many tie points as needed. These weeds handle that stress well. Also, sometimes we will bend a top almost to snapping if it is growing faster that the canopy and can't be tied down well. Then the lower sites grow better. If you stop a plant growing in 1 direction it will make up for it in other parts.

.

sinthetic · 06-07-08, 14:20

Quote:

Originally Posted by procell

.

I beg to differ. The one plant that was trimmed, produced close to 4 ozs of bud while the identical strain grown next to it (un-pruned) produced less than 1 oz. Most of the people here growing in small closets rarely get a 4 oz yield per plant.
Once again I must stress the fan leaf removal was imperative to this tek in a SMALL closet environment. The fan leaf removal will be debatable forever. My collective prefers it in these situations it has reduced the mold problems completely and as an added benefit it seems to slow spread of mites since they have less long term area to settle in..
Top pruning and bending is undeniably the way to make bushes.
As far as time goes, the longer you veg, the bigger the plant. Flowering times are flower times, can't change them. It was veged for 6 weeks and flowered for 9-13. Variable harvest times.
We are more interested in producing buds not leaves.

.

though i'd like to point out that a lot of the techniques described here can be employed outside of the closet

Ras Asad · 07-25-08, 13:20

nice grow!!

you said this wasnt your grow right? someone elses?

Shroomette · 07-25-08, 15:23

Very awesome thread and great information I think this should go for achive material procell IMHO

t.platinum · 07-29-08, 21:39

bumpety bump this shit right to the top. You make me feel like I have wasted my plants possibility, but in a sweet and sour way.

Oblivion · 07-29-08, 22:51

Thanks procell. Your tek has proven itself for me. Its the only way I'll go now.
I dont give these out to just anyone but here goes....

</IMG>

eatyualive · 07-31-08, 01:01

wow, you took a twig and molded it into a masterpiece.....

now that is art!

Irishlion · 07-31-08, 02:07

Procell simply awesome brother simply awesome. Like eat said you created a masterpiece. I will diffently be using the info in this thread to uummmmmm further my research. But, nonetheles props man

procell · 08-09-08, 12:28

Thanks for the very kind words gang.

There should be some new pics of the summer change over coming in a week or so. The cabinet was retooled for summer by replacing the 400W HPS with a 8 X 4 foot T5HO on end on one side wall and a 4 X 2foot T5HO over the top.

The bush is almost 3 feet tall, 2 feet wide and 18 inches thick.
And goes to flower in days . . .

prism1234 · 08-09-08, 13:36

Has this been Archived yet? Eh?

procell · 08-09-08, 16:45

Quote:

Originally Posted by prism1234

Has this been Archived yet? Eh?

Hang on bro, it ain't done yet . . .
Let's add the summer grow first, it's starting to get good.
My bud in Denmark says pics are on the way.

[Home]	[The Vaults]	[Glossary]	[Donate]	[Sponsors]	[Affiliates]
[Calendar]	Mark Forums Read	[VIP Chat]	[Register]	[Activate]	[Resend Email]

04-11-08, 20:59	#51 (permalink)
ShroomGuerilla Myco-Monkey Join Date: Sep 2007 Posts: 383	__________________ "The whole of science is nothing more than a refinement of everyday thinking." -Albert Einstein

05-03-08, 04:20	#53 (permalink)
tobynutz Mycotopiate Join Date: Dec 1972 Posts: 1,093	can this be done in soil as well? i normall do all hydro but right now i just have 5 soil plants going and was thinking about trying this out __________________ look, somebody puked in the fridge. aint that great, its where the beer lives

05-03-08, 08:49	#54 (permalink)
Sunstar Gazer of the innerself Join Date: Mar 2007 Posts: 2,104	Nice job Procell. Awesome grow. __________________ I'm just sitting here watching the wheels go round and round, how I love to watch them roll ~John Lennon~

06-01-08, 02:39	#56 (permalink)
procell OU812 ? Join Date: Apr 1971 Posts: 855	. It has come to my attention that in concocting this thread, 2 grows were combined to illustrate the point. Since there were no images from the beginning of the grow a different grow was used for that phase stating the start was from seed. That was not the case, it was started from a female clone. This could become an issue when stressing plants of unknown sex from seed as it may force more to go male . . . . __________________ Anything Posted Is Information From Research. Questions Asked Are For Further Research. Any Pictures Posted Were Found On The Internet. ไหว้

04-20-08, 02:09	#52 (permalink)
spesh1 Mycophage Join Date: May 2007 Posts: 168	Bump this for 4-20. Inspiring work man!!!

06-01-08, 09:05	#57 (permalink)
warriorsoul Cosmopolitan Join Date: Aug 2007 Posts: 1,401	What was your bud weight 128 grams? how much time was that total? You could get better results by not pruning, in a shorter period of time. Anyway, its always nice to see others passionate about growing, nice work! check out my grow when you get chance. __________________

06-01-08, 13:12	#59 (permalink)
warriorsoul Cosmopolitan Join Date: Aug 2007 Posts: 1,401	hey its all good... your having fun, and thats what counts. what do you think of the sea of green? __________________

06-01-08, 15:29	#61 (permalink)
warriorsoul Cosmopolitan Join Date: Aug 2007 Posts: 1,401	sog is all about maximizing space. __________________

06-05-08, 20:25	#62 (permalink)
procell OU812 ? Join Date: Apr 1971 Posts: 855	. Well after changing nutes for this run on DSOTS's recommendation the plant has become a most lovely dark green . . . Days from harvest, 400hps, Ebb & Flo, botanicare pro flower . Attached Thumbnails __________________ Anything Posted Is Information From Research. Questions Asked Are For Further Research. Any Pictures Posted Were Found On The Internet. ไหว้

06-06-08, 15:13	#63 (permalink)
Walls Have Teeth VIP Member Join Date: May 2007 Posts: 171	simply amazing for one plant!!! __________________ There is so much talk about the system... and so little understanding.

06-07-08, 00:19	#65 (permalink)
Walls Have Teeth VIP Member Join Date: May 2007 Posts: 171	I don't think LST would be practical when radical pruning was used... I may be completely wrong but it would seem as unnecessary added stress ( even though its not much), without a gain in fruit. __________________ There is so much talk about the system... and so little understanding.

07-25-08, 13:20	#68 (permalink)
Ras Asad Human Join Date: Aug 2007 Posts: 1,975	nice grow!! you said this wasnt your grow right? someone elses? __________________ - Xa Ta Zac Xa Ta Amac -

07-25-08, 15:23	#69 (permalink)
Shroomette Shroom Smurfette Join Date: May 2008 Posts: 665	Very awesome thread and great information I think this should go for achive material procell IMHO __________________ "If I'm not seen in this world.I'm lost in my own lil world"!!!

07-29-08, 21:39	#70 (permalink)
t.platinum made of melting Join Date: Mar 2008 Posts: 17	bumpety bump this shit right to the top. You make me feel like I have wasted my plants possibility, but in a sweet and sour way. __________________ Welcome to the bright side of night!

07-29-08, 22:51	#71 (permalink)
Oblivion Join me there Join Date: Apr 2008 Posts: 384	Thanks procell. Your tek has proven itself for me. Its the only way I'll go now. I dont give these out to just anyone but here goes.... </IMG> __________________ I was created by the Ultrich and destroyed by the Humans.

07-31-08, 01:01	#72 (permalink)
eatyualive LookIntoYourMind Join Date: Jan 2006 Posts: 2,840	wow, you took a twig and molded it into a masterpiece..... now that is art! __________________ Simplicity Rules! Anything this user posts is not reality. It is an illusion. Optical lenses are quite impressive these days.

07-31-08, 02:07	#73 (permalink)
Irishlion dimensional outcast Join Date: May 2008 Posts: 713	Procell simply awesome brother simply awesome. Like eat said you created a masterpiece. I will diffently be using the info in this thread to uummmmmm further my research. But, nonetheles props man __________________ Things that span across the void that is my mind are not subject to the same principles of normal though.

08-09-08, 12:28	#74 (permalink)
procell OU812 ? Join Date: Apr 1971 Posts: 855	Thanks for the very kind words gang. There should be some new pics of the summer change over coming in a week or so. The cabinet was retooled for summer by replacing the 400W HPS with a 8 X 4 foot T5HO on end on one side wall and a 4 X 2foot T5HO over the top. The bush is almost 3 feet tall, 2 feet wide and 18 inches thick. And goes to flower in days . . . __________________ Anything Posted Is Information From Research. Questions Asked Are For Further Research. Any Pictures Posted Were Found On The Internet. ไหว้

08-09-08, 13:36	#75 (permalink)
prism1234 Running from My Mycelium Join Date: Jun 2007 Posts: 2,864	Has this been Archived yet? Eh? __________________ No matter how pretty the fire is, dont touch it!

Similar Threads
Thread	Thread Starter	Forum	Replies	Last Post
ideas for my closet setup? [merged]	Transition Force	Cannabis	19	12-14-07 21:24
Breeds of Weed, Closet Grows	ANON	Cannabis	28	02-27-07 09:30
Economic Closet Cultivation of Marihuana	Xerces	GrassRoots	15	01-14-07 02:10
Closet Cactus Care by M.S. Smith	waylitjim	Mescaline Cacti & Succulents	0	02-21-06 01:28
CLOSET SETUP, AUTO ?'s air exchange	python	Air, Circulation, Exchange and Humidity	18	03-21-05 18:37

Thread Tools
Show Printable Version Email this Page
Display Modes
Linear Mode Switch to Hybrid Mode Switch to Threaded Mode