sick plant

[Lookyhere]

Originally Posted by greenie

what di ur electric bill look like? mines running around 275 a month

This was 5 years ago when I stopped so the price of electricity wasn't as high. Oh we didn't take showers there either so the hot water heater was disconnected, no microwave. Our apt stayed pretty climate controlled luckily so A/C wasn't too bad, it would get higher in the summer though. It was less than what you're paying. It was around $200-$250 a month if I remember right.

[greenie]

lucky fucker... lol

[Lookyhere]

Damn, I replied, but I guess it got erased. It was about $175-$250 if I remember correctly. We didn't take showers there so there was no need for hot water. We unplugged the hot water heater, we unplugged the fridge, we didn't use the stove, oven, microwave. We just had a little boom box and our lights. This all ended about 5 years ago so the prices of electricity were less then too.

[Lookyhere]

OK, I replied twice now and it's not showing up. Nevermind, now it shows up all at once.

[greenie]

LOL

[greenie]

well, they arent dead yet!! the 2 newer victims are steady, and one seems to be recovering even! i flushed the fuck outta the plants yesterday. heres what some leaves look lik under normal light.

[siam_jim]

i had the same thing, leach/flush it out big time 3-4x a day for 3 days, use 1/2 strength solution with piss...yess piss... it came out of it in 2 weeks and continue to full strength without the piss...

worked..



siam

[greenie]

so u think fert burn then for sure?

[warriorsoul]

looks like the burn to me.

[siam_jim]

whats the PH set at? the more i look at it it looks like PH...


siam

[Lazlo]

It doesn't look like a nutrient problem at all to me. You can clearly see the white spots in the leaves.

Greenie, have you used 1000's before with no problems? I had to get rid of mine because they were just too damn much on the heat and light strength.

[greenie]

ive ONLY used 1000s up untill now. im 100% they are not being physically burned by the lights. The flush and leaf pulling seemed to help the first sickie, im gonna try it on the other 2 on a day if they dont start lookin better.

[MurCurY]

the earlier pics look similar to a problem in the greenhouse with blackberry plants. they get a type of downy mildew that drys out the leaves and leaves spots...the leaves change color then dry out. we treat them with peroxide then a fungicide treatment such as potassium phosphite.

[greenie]

definitely not a fert burn. damnit i was hoping so. It now appears to spread by physical contact though very slowly. the two sick plants stressed themselves into finishing earlier, and all leaves that were touching those plants were removed. FUCK. anyone know how to treat fungus this late into flowering????? ANYONE??

[cap]

mold and mildew will not grow in a dry climate. drop the rh to 30%.
if its worth it to you,buy a sulfur burner, but that only works for powdery mildew.

id consider buying an ozone generator and/or a germicidal uv light. you can buy a compact fluorescent germicidal lamp of QUALITY then go over every inch of the room with it almost touching the plants. wear protective eyewear while doing this. and if you want a free fix, just drop your humidity like i told you to do on page 1 man.

later

[cap]

im telling you man to man that this is not all due to fungal attack.

you have a plethora of issues probably stemming from inbalanced pH.

-nutrient burn
-moisture stress (probably from all this leaching and over-diagnosis)
-WAY too close/hot of lamps. the leaves are fucked from it. textbook radiant heat damage.
-too dry a climate (which since you insist its systemic fungal attack youve had no choice to lower.
low rh prevents plants from recovering from any of the above problems. period.
-and yes, now i see fungal issues, probably due to all the dead plant matter. no pics indicated fungal attack till it 'got worse' and you posted this one http://forums.mycotopia.net/attachme...t-s5003572.jpg

the above pic is the only one showing signs of fungal attack. so take my previous post right above this one in this thread with a grain of salt. u asked how to alleviate fungal attack late in flower. i told you.

at this point there is no coming back. your grow will turn out crummy no matter what. try to keep the plants alive till day 60, then cut them down and BOMB the room with bleach. discard all plant matter and soil. scrub all fans and lights, and read up on how to create ideal conditions for an indoor marijuana operation. proper planning and know-how prior to starting save you many headaaches and losses in the endgame..

in the meantime, find another spot and set it up with new starts off diffferent genetics, in case the infection IS systemic. youll need to compensate for your losses here.

ps- dead-room syndrome is a possibility. in fact, your thread outlines a perfect example of it.

good luck man

[greenie]

the RH is around 45. no dehumidifer so i cant get it any lower. Im not sure what the dea; is, not visible signs of anything but dying plants.

[greenie]

if it is PH related, why is the rest of the room healthy? where the infected leaves touched other plants, they got sick. Its SOME kind of sickness. Im positive of that.

[cap]

yeah of course the plants are drying. lemme ask u this-
can you get them outdoors?
if you can, they will bounce back, if not, you're fucked bro sorry to break it to you, but i have to be honest.

check out the overgrow FAQ in the top of this grassroots forum. its a sticky thread. look up 'dead room syndrome'. this is your issue.

[greenie]

i could put them outside, but thay are 12/12 the other way, 10/14 now from 62- pm to 420 AM. I think puttin em outside woiuld herm em?

[cap]

Originally Posted by greenie

if it is PH related, why is the rest of the room healthy? where the infected leaves touched other plants, they got sick. Its SOME kind of sickness. Im positive of that.

i agree theres mold n the room now. if you think thats the primary reason for the plants lookin ugly in the 1st place yer crazy.
if you want to believe mold is your only problem, then simply read and put into play the steps i outlined in the post 2nd above this one where i responded to your query of how to alleviate fungus.
simple as that.
check craigslist and post a want ad for a dehumidifier. that or just take the hit if you feel curing the fungus will cure your problem like i said before though, no sick plant will recover in 35%rh so once the mold is gone keep rh at 45+ and buy a sulfur burner or ozone gennie and do what you have to do to nurse your plants back to health.

i mean all these posts in utter sincerity. hope you realize that. sometimwes tough love is the only option. take it easy and if you lose this one, dont give up. mj is a weed and simple to grow unless you truly are a brown-thumb. in which case, stick a plant outdoors in the ground, water it if mother nature fails to, and it will grow itself. peace!

[cap]

Originally Posted by greenie

i could put them outside, but thay are 12/12 the other way, 10/14 now from 62- pm to 420 AM. I think puttin em outside woiuld herm em?

likely not. which strain is it? if its indica almost definitely not.

a few nanners is better then a lost crop though isnt it? i gotta get some sleep. be well

[greenie]

thank u cap. i was hopin to get more help from you. I pulled the 2 sick ones out. strange thing is, the first/original sick plant has recovered and is doin very well now. I also removed any leaf with visible damage to it. I have cut the lights back to 10/14 and since the majority of theses plants have flowering time of 45-53 days i plan on harvesting very soon here. thanks again cap. Ill see if i can find a DH that doesnt blow my overdrawn circuits.

[greenie]

the strains are hindu skunk, big blue, shiva skunk, nlxhaze and grapefruit diesel

[cap]

Originally Posted by greenie

thank u cap. i was hopin to get more help from you. I pulled the 2 sick ones out. strange thing is, the first/original sick plant has recovered and is doin very well now. I also removed any leaf with visible damage to it. I have cut the lights back to 10/14 and since the majority of theses plants have flowering time of 45-53 days i plan on harvesting very soon here. thanks again cap. Ill see if i can find a DH that doesnt blow my overdrawn circuits.

i have a dehumidifier but the shipping costs to send it to you would be more then buying one from a liquidator or big box store or something. harbor frieght has cheap shit check them out too. dh's are always good to have around anyway.

find a new house to grow in or like i said thoroughly saniitize the area/room/house/equiptment etc as if it were an inoculation room for mushies. your room will not support plants ever again if you have virus or fungus traces after this grow. and start new seeds dont use cuttings off the plants fromt his room.

shake er ez and im sorry i couldnt get to the thread sooner, life has been at its worst for me lately sorry to say. mother in hospital has been an everyday traumatic experience. my apologies

[greenie]

none needed my friend. The house that these plants came from had a chronic mold problem... thats why we moved. guess a little too late though. Thanks again cap, this rooms over with when this is done.

[Lazlo]

I saw pest control bombs at Lowes one day that also had a disinfectant in them as well. I'd bomb the holy hell out of that place if you don't have the means to grow elsewhere.

[greenie]

update. the two sick plants that were removed were harvested. Only around 1/2 of the nuggets were trimmable, and id say the total yield will be around 1-2 ozs. As an experiment, one of the remaining stuble bushes was sprayed with serenade. It apears to be recovering... I will update tomorrow.

[greenie]

update. I wiped down the leaves of the one semi sick plant remaining in the garden with serenade, a spray that contains a strain of baccillus thuringus designed to attack fungus and blights etc. i would have sprayed, but the shti smells and i dont want my weed to smell like that. One of the chopped plants was sprayed ( the stubble that was untrimmable) and one wasnt. The sprayed plant has made a full recovery!! So, serenade works.