new to hydro. few questions??

[Lookyhere]

You could make a big ebb n flow system. That is what I would do most likely. There was a guy on here for about a week before he got booted, he made some pretty cool stuff. He used gutters and it was cheap to make and worked well. I'll think about it for awhile and also see if I can find any blueprints anywhere for some systems.

[Lookyhere]

I would definitely go with an ebb and flow system. That is the easiest to make yourself with as little problems and hassles. I'm not a huge fan of drip emitters. Here are a few links.

http://www.living-learning.com/faq/homebflo.htm

http://www.midwesthydroponics.com/fa...low_basics.asp

http://www.gtghydroponics.com/faq/hydroponics.htm

http://www.bghydro.com/bgh/static/ar.../0806_byos.asp

[mushhut]

Nice links looky. I think that the set up is a lil confusing. I've got an idea tell me if this will work. 5gal bucket filled with water a hydro bucket that sits in a styrofoam top for the main 5gal bucket. I will use fish tank pumps with air stones to pump air to the roots. Any ideas. Trying to keep it simple.

As far as mt plant goes... lil confusing there too.I canged over my lights from grow bulbs 24/7 to bloom bulbs 12/12. I changed my nutes from maxi grow to maxi bloom. I can't see if its male or female. No signs of buds and no signs of it being a male. What gives? I changed my bulbs over a while back. The date of the light change is back some where in this thread. I can't get a good pic of where the male genatila comes out. So shouldn't have this plant showen sex. Now im thinking its a female.

[Lookyhere]

Not sure. I have only really worked with rockwool. We were going to switch over to buckets with grow rocks, but we decided that we knew rockwool very well and there was no point in fixing what wasn't broke. Someone else will have to give their opinion on that. I think that that an ebb and flow is really the best and most simple. You just flood the table every time it needs watering. If it is rockwool, once a day in the beginning, and then as they get bigger and start to really drink the solution, increasing the waterings. You can also to it with grow buckets and grow rocks, the table just needs to be flooded a lot more frequently.

Your plant should have shown sex by now. I'm not sure how long it's been, but I'm guessing it's been over 2 weeks..? It usually doesn't take more than 2 weeks at 12 hours of light. The males will look like little grapes at the nodes, and a girl will have very distinct white hairs. If there is no sign at all, you can't assume it's a girl, it's still up in the air.

Your idea will work, I just haven't done it. I don't think you want the roots completely submerged 24/7, but I really don't know. 5 gallon buckets are huge and not maximizing space at all.

[quack quack]

have u ever played a tray for co2?

[Lookyhere]

http://www.dbcourt.co.uk/hydroponics...%20_types.html

Here do this. Type in DIY hydroponics in the google toolbar. Then click images. Then a bunch of images will come up and if you see something that looks interesting then click on it and see how they say to build it. There are so many different blueprints on there. You can also type in hydroponics, ebb and flow, etc... Start with DIY hydroponics though. You should find a cool easy setup. I just did it and found a bunch of thigs that seem pretty simple to build.

This one's simple http://www.wynia.org/wordpress/2006/...c-herb-garden/

This is cool too. Don't pay the $6 for their DIY guide though, just look at it to get an idea. SOG is awesome BTW. I would do SOG if I were you, you can harvest every 45-60 days if you have it all set up right. http://images.google.com/imgres?imgu...US273%26sa%3DN

[Lookyhere]

One more idea. Check youtube. I bet there are some cool videos on how to build your own hydroponic system. I bet some of them really suck, but I bet that some are good and informative. Sometimes it helps to watch someone building or doing something. If I find a really good one I will post it up here for you. I'm not going to look at all of them, so I'm not sure if I will find a good one or not.

Ok the youtube videos I just looked at suck. 5 of them were the same video. I think if you look on google like I said in the earlier post you will find something that is easy to build and will work well. And cheap to build.

[mushhut]

No never played with trays of co2. Can you tell me more?
Looky ill look at google for eeb info. My 2 hairs on the stocs are green not solid white, maybe a tint of white but not white. No grapes. Ill try to get beter pics and get them to ya but do to the color of the bloom light I cannot get a good pic.
I have kept this plants roots in water 24/7 im running 2 fish tank pumps in there with large airstones my roots are solid, whire and very strong. Im sure this isn't a first in hydroponics.

[Lookyhere]

Is the entire plant from the top of the soil line and below submerged in water? I know you can do this, you just need a lot of oxygen in the water. I myself have never done it this way.

Green hairs wouldn't be it. Has to be white. If you have a magnifying glass that can help sometimes. I'm hoping to have my 1 plant sexed in the next few days. It's sexing it outside so it'll be interesting. I didn't even mean to grow this plant, but a seed sprouted so I decided to keep it alive. First time in soil for me, first time outdoors for me, and first time sexing outdoors. I will be getting back to hydro when I return to Florida.

See how there are 4 green hair-like looking things at each node (2 on 1 side and 2 on the other side where the fan leaves meet the stalk)? Those aren't it. If you have additional hair-like looking things then it is probably a girl, white will confirm it for certain though.

[mushhut]

Yre than still no signes besides the bottom of the new leaves looking white. I had one plant bud on me. It was a very small plant do to the size of the container and the fact I had no grow lights just light from the windowcill. The plants harvest was maybe an 1/8 to 1/4th of oz. This plant dosnt look like that plant did when it started to bud. Idk lil irritated. I should see somthing.
Yes my plant from seed was started in jiffy bag that I bought at wally world, 3 to 4 days after the plant sprouted I put it bag and all in the hydro system. the plant took a week to ajust but is growing fast and strong ill take a pic of the roots and send it to ya. verry very nice root system.

Btw looky keeping my fingers crossed hoping you have some baby girls.

[mushhut]

okay topia, still don't know if my plant is male or female. I got some pics to looky today hopefully we can get some conformation today. Im sure looky will post the pics here when he has a chance. When the pics are up please help me id this plant.

[Lookyhere]

Here's the pictures. I haven't had a chance to look at them yet, but I will in a sec.

Just looked at it I think you got a dude. I will circle why I think that and upload it in a minute. It's kind of hard to tell, but I think I spotted the grapes.

[Lookyhere]

This doesn't look good to me.



Other than that, I don't see a whole lot of signs. I will look a little closer though.

[Lookyhere]

Then again these look like hairs, but hard to tell from so far away. I didn't want to resize it because then it would effect the zoom, and in this picture I think you really need the zoom. It's like looking through a little jungle. It'll be interesting to see what others have to say. I just zoomed in super close to what I circled in the first picture and it really looks like male flowers. Could be a hermaphrodite too, that would suck.

[mushhut]

I just went to take a look at the exact stock you circled and its a new shoot of leaves. From far away looks like a male. Ill keep looking over the next couple days. Im going to start some new plants just in case.
I just don't understand why its taking this long to show sex. Only thing I can think of is that after my lights shut off there is still a lil light coming in from the window. Could this be an issue?

[prism1234]

Good luck on the girls

[Lookyhere]

Originally Posted by mushhut

I just went to take a look at the exact stock you circled and its a new shoot of leaves. From far away looks like a male. Ill keep looking over the next couple days. Im going to start some new plants just in case.
I just don't understand why its taking this long to show sex. Only thing I can think of is that after my lights shut off there is still a lil light coming in from the window. Could this be an issue?

This plant has now been flowering for 24 days. It should be showing signs by now for sure. Anyone have any input on what they think it is? The little bit of light could be slowing it down. I know that I used to read that you wanted 12 hours of complete uninterrupted total darkness and that little light leaks would slow the process down. The articles that I read on this topic said that even opening the door for a minute and allowing a little bit of light to enter the room will slow things. They will obviously flower, in nature there is the moon, but I have read it does slow the process down. 24 days is a long time if there is no sex showing. The second picture does look like hairs, but again, it's kinda far away. If you have a magnifying glass, try using it to look for white hairs. You should definitely be able to see signs with a magnifying glass somewhere on that plant.

[Ras Asad]

hmmm, does look kinda boyish.... youll know soon enough...
what about any pics of the very tip(s)? can you get any clear shots of that??

I have had plants that have taken at least a month to show sex before..,
it was usually a Kush of some kind..... or a really long flowering Landrace Sativa.... but, if its been 24 days... you will be seeing sex before this Moon is over . lol

light from the window could do it... how much light? can you just toss a blanket over the spot where light gets in for a few nights?

Niice job growing S/he though! looks nice n happy.
I love the way males look, just sucks to grow it all that time by itself and have it be a dood.

at least you can get some pollen?

maybe, hopefully its a girl for ya tho.. sendin it all the fem nrg i can gather.. lol

[Lookyhere]

Hopefully you can see it, but the leaf I'm holding down, at the base of it, there are male flowers starting. DAMNIT! Haven't had to sex a plant in over 12-13 years (I always used clones after that), but it's something you never forget.

[Lookyhere]

Here's a few more pictures that may be a little clearer. First 3 are guys, last ones a girl.

[lucysd]

that first pic is great cause it shows in decent detail, the pollen sacs , in different stages of development

[mushhut]

Wow those pics are great. Im thinking that its male. Still don't want to beleve it. Im in denial.
The pics show me its a boy. Im going to let it go another day or two just to make sure.

[lucysd]

Originally Posted by mushhut

Wow those pics are great. Im thinking that its male. Still don't want to beleve it. Im in denial.
The pics show me its a boy. Im going to let it go another day or two just to make sure.

denial is a powerful tool lemme tell you,

[Lookyhere]

Originally Posted by lucysd

denial is a powerful tool lemme tell you,

I'm still pissed off about the 1 plant that I grew out turned out to be a male. Ahh, it's probably for the best, not in the best circumstances at the moment to be taking care of a plant. The 1 plant I grew though got the fever goin' again.

Haven't looked at the pictures yet, but I will after they are uploaded and give my $.02.

Honestly, I can't tell, the pictures are too blurry. You said that there are several grapes though. Several grapes is bad. The male flowers start with 1 little flower and then more grapes start coming out of the same area and start to take on a "grape-like" look. Bracts can look a little like a male flower and can even be missing the "hairs" in the very early stages. Bracts won't multiply like the grapes do though.