Mandala Satori.

dukeOfPrunes · 07-15-08, 10:24

After pythium problems, and a smidgen of heat-stress - she's coming on nicely at 5/6 weeks. The root-rot drove the pH up far too much, I got lock-out, and then deficiencies. The burn in the pics is from that period in her life. It was a major disaster that was narrowly avoided by the skin of my teeth. The pythium is still present in the system, but i'm keeping it at bay with daily treatments of h2o2, frozen soda bottles, and extra airstones. Hoping that the yield won't suffer too much.....

Waiting patiently for the main cola to fatten up though. The fan leaves are just starting to turn yellow, so i'm expecting the buds to fatten up over the next couple of weeks, but I've been told that it's not really until the last 3 weeks that she'll really pack on the beef.... we'll see...

She's also a really light feeder - the EC has not went above 1.0 for the duration of the grow. Well, it did, but she didn't like it. Course, she's in a bubbler as well, and EC values will be lower anyway.

Hippie3 · 07-15-08, 10:27

getting pretty,
how's the taste on that strain ?

dukeOfPrunes · 07-15-08, 10:32

Dunno yet Hip. Not tried it yet.

The smell has developed nicely over the last few weeks though. Kinda 'minty' at first, but with a definite citrus/fruity undertone.

Really looking forward to smoking her.

suckerfree · 07-15-08, 10:34

wow

looks very frosty!

dukeOfPrunes · 07-15-08, 10:42

Quote:

Originally Posted by suckerfree

wow

looks very frosty!

Yeh - she's been knocking out copious amounts of resin since the 3rd week of flower. I've got a cutting from her doing really well in coco right now as well - 'bout a foot tall, but it looks like i'm gonna have to stop growing for a while after this run, so I need to get rid of her.

It's a damn shame, as I think that she'd do really well topped. I was looking forward to a full Satori run next time. Ho-hum.

Hippie3 · 07-15-08, 10:57

put her outdoors, not too late even now...

dukeOfPrunes · 07-15-08, 11:03

Funny you say that - my mate actually told me to do that last week, but this summer in my area is being a bit weird with rain etc.

Might be an idea....

Hippie3 · 07-15-08, 11:05

too much or too little rain ?

dukeOfPrunes · 07-15-08, 11:14

Too much.

Hash_Man · 07-15-08, 11:14

Quote:

Originally Posted by Hippie3

getting pretty,
how's the taste on that strain ?

Swim grew some of this out, top shit for sure

. I found it fast growing good thick stems, a pleasure to grow.

Smelt like grandpa's old cloths though, taste was

not as bad.

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dukeOfPrunes · 07-18-08, 12:44

Some macros for your enjoyment.....

Northern Lights:

Satori:

Skunk #1:

The NL is by far the frostiest of the bunch.

Coughing_Anon · 07-22-08, 01:37

Heat strain? I read that Mandala strains do well in high temps. What are your temps at?

dukeOfPrunes · 07-22-08, 02:30

Quote:

Originally Posted by Coughing_Anon

Heat strain? I read that Mandala strains do well in high temps. What are your temps at?

Can't really say about the heat-resistance. My top temp is 83F, but the room usually sticks to around 78F-80F. Heard good things mind you, but I ain't never seen it myself. Supposedly has good resistance to mites and pests as well, but again I can't comment as I've been lucky in both regards.

Coughing_Anon · 07-22-08, 15:13

Maybe you got yourself a bad phenotype.
How many seeds did you germinate before you found your mother?
I'm interested to hear that these are indeed light feeders.
Do you think this could cause problems if grown together with other strains hydroponically?

dukeOfPrunes · 07-22-08, 17:15

I wouldn't say I got a bad pheno C.Anon - it's simply that my temps were never high enough to really test the heat-resistance of the plant, so I can't make a judgement call either way.

As for the feeding - both my Skunk and NL plants topped out at a max EC of 1.4, whereas the Satori's max EC was 1.0! The landrace genes in these plants really make them good at nute uptake. IONIC veg nutes are quite low on nitrogen as well I think, as i've seen plants suffer serious N deficiencies really early on in flowering. Too early to be honest - but the Satori is only starting to yellow now after about 6-7 weeks. This suggests to me that the plant is not only good at nute uptake, but also the storing of the nutes in the fan-leaves. It's gotta be the landrace genes - these plants are used to harsh environments with little nutrient availability in the soil high in the nepalese mountains.

I wouldn't really recommend running her in Hydro with other plants if you are using an external res in a flood/drain setup for example. There is too much chance of burning the shit out of her unless you can find other strains that are as light feeders as Mandala stock, but if you are doing seperate pots in a coco grow or bubblers like me, there is no reason why you can't adjust the nutes to suit each plant's feeding requirements. Pain in the ass, but worth it I reckon.

Also - I popped 5 seeds, got a mutant, a male, and 3 females. The one flowering now was the 'stockiest' most Indica looking plant, and kinda looks like a spear. According to Mandala Mike's recommendations, the spear phenotype is the one to keep. The other 2 went to good homes. This is supposed to be the best yeilder as well, but we'll see. I would say that if topped though, she'd do really well. I supercropped her in veg to let the side branching catch up a bit, but it's only made a bit of an impact. The side-branching is holding nice, dense buds, but if i'd have done it 2 or 3 times, i'm sure that it would have increased the yield drastically. As it is, the main cola is too far above the side-branching for the yield to be significantly increased. Though it is a 14'' cola! Nice to look at.

Hope i've helped mate.

Coughing_Anon · 07-22-08, 22:21

Thanks for the info, I'm really interested in Satori. I hope you'll post some cola-porn before you chop 'em down.

shroom_seeker · 07-23-08, 13:47

love those macros

dukeOfPrunes · 07-25-08, 15:40

Quote:

Originally Posted by Coughing_Anon

Thanks for the info, I'm really interested in Satori. I hope you'll post some cola-porn before you chop 'em down.

Here ya go - i'll post more pics as she bulks up over the next few weeks....

dukeOfPrunes · 08-09-08, 16:39

Harvest day - phase 1. Had to cut the Skunk early cos she hermied. This is just the top + a few side branches. The top was bent over to control her height, so most of the side branching was at the same height as the main cola thus:

Basically, I cut the canopy - now i'm gonna let the lower buds ripen some over the next week and i'll harvest her next weekend along with the Satori main cola.

I'm sure she'd easily have went another 2 weeks, but i'm not tolerating any pollen in the room.....

Coughing_Anon · 08-10-08, 09:36

Niiiice.

livewire420 · 08-10-08, 10:45

dukeOfPrunes · 08-13-08, 16:54

She's ready early - 16'' of solid buddage........

And the lower buds are still to get chopped!

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07-15-08, 10:24	#1 (permalink)
dukeOfPrunes Braindead Join Date: Apr 2008 Posts: 50	Mandala Satori. After pythium problems, and a smidgen of heat-stress - she's coming on nicely at 5/6 weeks. The root-rot drove the pH up far too much, I got lock-out, and then deficiencies. The burn in the pics is from that period in her life. It was a major disaster that was narrowly avoided by the skin of my teeth. The pythium is still present in the system, but i'm keeping it at bay with daily treatments of h2o2, frozen soda bottles, and extra airstones. Hoping that the yield won't suffer too much..... Waiting patiently for the main cola to fatten up though. The fan leaves are just starting to turn yellow, so i'm expecting the buds to fatten up over the next couple of weeks, but I've been told that it's not really until the last 3 weeks that she'll really pack on the beef.... we'll see... She's also a really light feeder - the EC has not went above 1.0 for the duration of the grow. Well, it did, but she didn't like it. Course, she's in a bubbler as well, and EC values will be lower anyway. Attached Thumbnails __________________ "Youth is happy because it has the ability to see beauty. Anyone who keeps the ability to see beauty never grows old."

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07-15-08, 10:32	#3 (permalink)
dukeOfPrunes Braindead Join Date: Apr 2008 Posts: 50	Dunno yet Hip. Not tried it yet. The smell has developed nicely over the last few weeks though. Kinda 'minty' at first, but with a definite citrus/fruity undertone. Really looking forward to smoking her. __________________ "Youth is happy because it has the ability to see beauty. Anyone who keeps the ability to see beauty never grows old."

07-15-08, 10:34	#4 (permalink)
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07-15-08, 10:57	#6 (permalink)
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07-15-08, 11:03	#7 (permalink)
dukeOfPrunes Braindead Join Date: Apr 2008 Posts: 50	Funny you say that - my mate actually told me to do that last week, but this summer in my area is being a bit weird with rain etc. Might be an idea.... __________________ "Youth is happy because it has the ability to see beauty. Anyone who keeps the ability to see beauty never grows old."

07-15-08, 11:05	#8 (permalink)
Hippie3 Admin Join Date: Feb 2001 Posts: 35,341	too much or too little rain ? __________________ GROW SUPPLIES: www.Mycrotopia.com ------------Simply The Best------------ Namaste Temet Nosce

07-15-08, 11:14	#9 (permalink)
dukeOfPrunes Braindead Join Date: Apr 2008 Posts: 50	Too much. __________________ "Youth is happy because it has the ability to see beauty. Anyone who keeps the ability to see beauty never grows old."

07-18-08, 12:44	#11 (permalink)
dukeOfPrunes Braindead Join Date: Apr 2008 Posts: 50	Some macros for your enjoyment..... Northern Lights: Satori: Skunk #1: The NL is by far the frostiest of the bunch. __________________ "Youth is happy because it has the ability to see beauty. Anyone who keeps the ability to see beauty never grows old."

07-22-08, 01:37	#12 (permalink)
Coughing_Anon Mycophiliac Join Date: Jun 2008 Posts: 64	Heat strain? I read that Mandala strains do well in high temps. What are your temps at?

07-22-08, 15:13	#14 (permalink)
Coughing_Anon Mycophiliac Join Date: Jun 2008 Posts: 64	Maybe you got yourself a bad phenotype. How many seeds did you germinate before you found your mother? I'm interested to hear that these are indeed light feeders. Do you think this could cause problems if grown together with other strains hydroponically?

07-22-08, 17:15	#15 (permalink)
dukeOfPrunes Braindead Join Date: Apr 2008 Posts: 50	I wouldn't say I got a bad pheno C.Anon - it's simply that my temps were never high enough to really test the heat-resistance of the plant, so I can't make a judgement call either way. As for the feeding - both my Skunk and NL plants topped out at a max EC of 1.4, whereas the Satori's max EC was 1.0! The landrace genes in these plants really make them good at nute uptake. IONIC veg nutes are quite low on nitrogen as well I think, as i've seen plants suffer serious N deficiencies really early on in flowering. Too early to be honest - but the Satori is only starting to yellow now after about 6-7 weeks. This suggests to me that the plant is not only good at nute uptake, but also the storing of the nutes in the fan-leaves. It's gotta be the landrace genes - these plants are used to harsh environments with little nutrient availability in the soil high in the nepalese mountains. I wouldn't really recommend running her in Hydro with other plants if you are using an external res in a flood/drain setup for example. There is too much chance of burning the shit out of her unless you can find other strains that are as light feeders as Mandala stock, but if you are doing seperate pots in a coco grow or bubblers like me, there is no reason why you can't adjust the nutes to suit each plant's feeding requirements. Pain in the ass, but worth it I reckon. Also - I popped 5 seeds, got a mutant, a male, and 3 females. The one flowering now was the 'stockiest' most Indica looking plant, and kinda looks like a spear. According to Mandala Mike's recommendations, the spear phenotype is the one to keep. The other 2 went to good homes. This is supposed to be the best yeilder as well, but we'll see. I would say that if topped though, she'd do really well. I supercropped her in veg to let the side branching catch up a bit, but it's only made a bit of an impact. The side-branching is holding nice, dense buds, but if i'd have done it 2 or 3 times, i'm sure that it would have increased the yield drastically. As it is, the main cola is too far above the side-branching for the yield to be significantly increased. Though it is a 14'' cola! Nice to look at. Hope i've helped mate. __________________ "Youth is happy because it has the ability to see beauty. Anyone who keeps the ability to see beauty never grows old."

07-22-08, 22:21	#16 (permalink)
Coughing_Anon Mycophiliac Join Date: Jun 2008 Posts: 64	Thanks for the info, I'm really interested in Satori. I hope you'll post some cola-porn before you chop 'em down.

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08-09-08, 16:39	#19 (permalink)
dukeOfPrunes Braindead Join Date: Apr 2008 Posts: 50	Harvest day - phase 1. Had to cut the Skunk early cos she hermied. This is just the top + a few side branches. The top was bent over to control her height, so most of the side branching was at the same height as the main cola thus: Basically, I cut the canopy - now i'm gonna let the lower buds ripen some over the next week and i'll harvest her next weekend along with the Satori main cola. I'm sure she'd easily have went another 2 weeks, but i'm not tolerating any pollen in the room..... Attached Thumbnails __________________ "Youth is happy because it has the ability to see beauty. Anyone who keeps the ability to see beauty never grows old."

08-10-08, 09:36	#20 (permalink)
Coughing_Anon Mycophiliac Join Date: Jun 2008 Posts: 64	Niiiice.

08-13-08, 16:54	#22 (permalink)
dukeOfPrunes Braindead Join Date: Apr 2008 Posts: 50	She's ready early - 16'' of solid buddage........ And the lower buds are still to get chopped! Attached Thumbnails __________________ "Youth is happy because it has the ability to see beauty. Anyone who keeps the ability to see beauty never grows old."

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