Don't know what to do please HELP!!!!

[vwguy]

Hello all,
I have been having problyms with bugs eating our plant. I went out the other day and bought some Insect killing soap. It is a organic bug repellant for veggies flowers and fruits. The bug killer is called concern... So i figured it would be safe for this kind of plant. I sprayed it yesterday and it seemed as though it just added flavoring to the plant to make what ever is eating want to eat it more. I have a garden growing and a good size flower bed and this is the only plant that is being ate up. But i have yet to see anything on the plant.
Here is a link to the same kind of bug spray i bought, except i bought the bottle that you delute into a spray bottle, what i got is the 5th bottle down on this link.
http://www.saferbrand.com/garden/gardenproducts.asp

I was thinking maybe i should dig the plant up and put it in a bucket to bring it in and out of the house so that way it wont have as much of a chance to get bugs. Or should i just spray it again and leave it. my back yard is kind of open and there is an ally going threw the back so i would kind of like to leave it because its hidden where it is growing. Will bugs still keep eating it when it starts to flower?

I have put some pictures of it so you can see what is going on.

So should i just leave it and spray it again. or should i pull it and put it in a bucket and move it in and out of the house? I dont really have the cash to go buy any other bug repellants. so maybe im just freaking out and what was eaten on the plant was done before i sprayed it.

Thanks for any help you guys can give me....

[growDaddy]

them some happy bugs!

sorry, I don't know how to help you!

IME, your always going to get a little pest damage from pests in an outdoor grow. Its a manner of managing it. Yours looks good IMO and I wouldnt worry about it. Knock any visible bugs off by hand and clean the plant of eggs and stuff as often as your able.

My bro grew some outdoor MJ and he said that he had bugs no matter what he did. He said the best defense that he came up with was to start the vegging indoors till the plants were about 2-3 months old prior to spring then plant them directly in prepared soil. This way the plants grow to be huge 7-8 foot trees because your extending their veg cycle. When they can get this tall they are usually more immune to bugs because the plants are usually in the breeze and too tall to be a good habitat for bugs. He said that his trees usually don't even have any leaves until they get over the surrounding foliage. Once they get to be about 3-4 foot the bugs mysteriously seem to go away and not bother them any more. Again, he says this is because once they get taller they are no longer suitable habitat for bugs. He said he had a lot of trouble when he made small bushes cause it was easier for pests to get at them.

[lucysd]

first and foremost you need to identify the "bug" eating the plant


cause thats a biggun then

you can guess by now

that organic bug spray is for pansys, your not trying to exfoliate them or flush the toxins out of the bugs system are you?

your trying to KILL the bug, YOUR tryin to ANIALATE its offspring

CHEMICAL WARFARE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[TastyBeverage]

I found by accident that a lit cigarette will kill most insect pests on garden plants. I was smoking out on my deck where i had a potted rose bush and a couple of tomatoes. The rose bush was being attacked by aphids and some other little black bugs. Just out of spite i blew smoke on them and they became distressed... some fell off immediately. So i held my lit cig under them and let the heat and smoke rise up to engulf them. They all died and dropped off within seconds. Got rid of most of them with a couple more cigs, and there was no damage to the plant at all.

Just a suggestion. You could get a pack of some dirt cheap, nasty cigs and try it out.

[golly]

Check the plants at night as that's proly when the damage is happening ..look for slug trails or even rodent shiit..Some of the leaves look more like a small animal maybe munching part of it..

[kswissbob]

Originally Posted by TastyBeverage

I found by accident that a lit cigarette will kill most insect pests on garden plants. I was smoking out on my deck where i had a potted rose bush and a couple of tomatoes. The rose bush was being attacked by aphids and some other little black bugs. Just out of spite i blew smoke on them and they became distressed... some fell off immediately. So i held my lit cig under them and let the heat and smoke rise up to engulf them. They all died and dropped off within seconds. Got rid of most of them with a couple more cigs, and there was no damage to the plant at all.

Just a suggestion. You could get a pack of some dirt cheap, nasty cigs and try it out.

i believe thats because nicotine is a insecticide.
Makes me feel safe since im a smoker :-p no bugs in my lungs!

[vwguy]

i dug in my ash tray and took all of the unsmoked tabacco and put it in a coffee filter. than put a twist tie on it. i cut off the extra tie and filter and dropped that down in my spray bottle with the insect killing soap. i swooshed that around and sprayed the whole area...... maybe that will help????

[Ras Asad]

hi vwguy~

instead, do this.......

soak a cigarette in a thing of water, let it soak for a couple hours and then mist the plants with it.
Many people use tobacco as bug deterrent.

just mist it on and they should scatter.
if its deer or something... other measures need taken. lol

good luck

Ras

oop,s didnt see that.. I wouldnt use smoked cigarettes for it, use a fresh cig. lot kmore frsh, nicotine in there, cig butts wont have much of what you want.

[dice]

Originally Posted by golly

Check the plants at night as that's proly when the damage is happening ..look for slug trails or even rodent shiit..Some of the leaves look more like a small animal maybe munching part of it..

I agree they def look like bigger bites than what an insect would make.
I think you might got a hungry squirrel or something rabbit maybe.
Its best to find out what your gonna be fighting than just going to town on your baby.
Pull a night shift and find out what you have getting a free meal.

[vwguy]

well there are rabbits and stuff roaming the area. but what should i do about that??? cause its about time for the flowering season and i dont want to miss out on that....

[Ras Asad]

Repellents

After teaching the Master Gardener program for 17 years, I believe I’ve heard almost every home remedy for repelling rabbits. Home repellents include socks packed with human hair to soap on a rope. Others have sprayed vinegar around plants or scattered cotton balls around their garden. Some people even use human, pet or other predator urine around the edge of the garden. Some of these remedies can work for a while in one location and yet have very little effect in another location. One repellent that has worked well in many situations is dried blood. The dried blood eventually breaks down and provides nutrients to the surrounding plants. There are many repellents on the market that are sprayed on the leaves of desirable plants. These repellents must be reapplied after a certain period of time or after rainfall in order to be effective.
Select repellents that are safe to use around children and pets. Some of the safest repellents include the use of black pepper and bone meal which can be applied directly to the rabbits favorite foods. These simple repellents will need to be reapplied more often in the beginning but rabbits will then develop a habit of feeding elsewhere. Repellents should be applied late in the day as rabbits will often do the bulk of their feeding at night.

you could also urinate around them whenever your there. that helps fropm deer and other animals, rabbits would prolly find it sketchy to, i always pee around my plants outdoors.
http://ifplantscouldtalk.rutgers.edu...icle.asp?ID=13

some folks say blood meal spread around on the ground will keep animals away from plants

[vwguy]

i will give that a try tonight when its dark

[Looky]

Ouch. That plant's taking a little bit of a beating. I will be interested to see how the nicotine works out for you. I tried the insecticidal soap a long time ago. I thought it would be good to get rid of the bugs, and at the same time not be bad on my plants. Turned out that insecticidal soap was just a cute idea, but completely ineffective. I'm with Lucy, kill those fuckers. Go with chemical warfare. You will have plenty of time to spray the plant(s) down with regular water later to get all the chemicals off, but you need to eradicate the problem. The soap just give the bugs a nice little bath.

[Ras Asad]

yeah,
but dont go killing and poisoning rabbits n things for one plant.

[Looky]

Originally Posted by Ras Asad

yeah,
but dont go killing and poisoning rabbits n things for one plant.

Yeah, I agree. It's not a rabbit though, unless it can fly. Could be deer or something like that. Whatever it is, it likes the ganja. You need to find out exactly what it is first. If it is bugs, then you should see some bugs on the plant. Look at it a night too with a flashlight, that's when the slugs come out. It would be nice if it were slugs, easy problem to take care of.

[Foster]

Looks like insect damage imo. Most animals will take the fresh green tops, though some arent picky and will just munch. Looks similar to damage from Hornworm. Like the big fat green worms you see eating tomatoes.

] Stay away from the chemicals if at all possible. Do you want to smoke chemically treated plants? I wouldnt. The problem with most chemicals is they do not wash off! Plants will absorb the chems thru their cuticle and retain a portion of the poison. Even when their effectiveness has diminished. Just my opinion there as a licensed,certified pest control tech.

I'd start with a dusting of diatomaceous earth around the plants base. This will deter many crawling insects and slugs. DE is only effective in a dry state for most insects. Do not wet it, and reapply after a watering or rain and drying period.

There are several good organic pyrethrin products available, some in a horticultural oil, or vegetable oil base.

A homeade deterrant can be made by crushing a couple cloves of garlic, adding a few drops of hot sauce or hot red pepper, some liquid kelp, a couple drops of adjuvant or dishwashing liquid in a quart of warm water. This can be sprayed on.

Urinating around perimeter may help deter animals from munching your plants.

Good luck

[the_chosen_one]

http://www.z-tolerance.com/

this stuff is great! the only thing i've had trouble with using this is whiteflies.. lil' bastards seem invincible may have to hire an insect army for those.

[the_chosen_one]

sorry, i'm reading fast! i took another look at the damage.. this may be your culprit.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Earwig

i caught one in the act the other day on a sally plant. they do some damage for sure.

[Ras Asad]

soo gross

good call TCO.

go gettem dood.

[vwguy]

cant really be a deer cause im right in the middle of town. It could be a rabit but im thinking that its probably bugs. my yard is fenced in so deer are really out of the question. i have yet to go out and check it today...

[Looky]

Originally Posted by vwguy

cant really be a deer cause im right in the middle of town. It could be a rabit but im thinking that its probably bugs. my yard is fenced in so deer are really out of the question. i have yet to go out and check it today...

I think you will be better off checking it at night with a flashlight. The thing(s) that are eating your plant are eating it at night, so try and catch em in the act. I think it's bugs also.

[LSDarkstar]

Dude, I had a single caterpillar go to town on my b. caapi leaves........it looked like that type of damage as well. I found the "bugger" and did the neem thing ! That was 10 days ago and no more caterpillars .

Good luck.........

Like foster said , "I'd stay away from chemicals if at all possible".

[lucysd]

i was just joking about the chemicals but whatever

ive knoticed throughout the years, that ive had way less of a problem with rabits, or deer or bugs of any kind when i ve done indoor grows,

they seem to work well for me

just my.02