MOST POTENT mixture of Green Dragon possible

[bucketfollower]

Hi everyone,

Sorry if this is long but I really hope people (especially GD Master) can help me with this - There is simply not enough talk about this and I think nailing this issue down could be a tremendous benefit to the entire GD and marijuana community.

I am interested in making the most potent, concentrated Green Dragon possible, intended for multiple doses. I have a 2 fl oz Stevia-labeled bottle w/ eye-dropper and access to plentiful amounts of marijuana, kief and everclear (95% grain alcohol). Specifically, this experiment is for a vacation I'll be taking in March, but the knowledge will be helpful for future plane flights, given that this scheme will make marijuana and its consumption unimaginably covert.

My mission is to see how much THC I can dissolve into 2 fl oz of Everclear to fit in that Stevia bottle. Hopefully people can back me up on this - I think Master Wu's original GD recipe called for 1/8th-oz of decent-grade marijuana to be dissolved in 2 fl oz of Bacardi 151 (which through the heating process evaporated to about 1 fl oz of concentrated GD mixture). From this, I also recall him writing that 1 ml (one eye-dropper full) of that resulting mixture was a powerful dose and that 2 ml was a "religious" experience.

Given the truth of his experiment, I should be able to extract at least 1/4th-oz of high-grade MJ + nominal amounts of kief into 2 fl oz of Everclear. I would be using the "cupboard method" and not the heating method, so there would be no alcohol evaporation and thus would result in 2 fl oz of this insanely pungent GD.

If successful, this would theoretically yield about 60 "powerful doses" or 30 "religious" doses. This would be incredible for a plane trip and vacation. So I need to know from everyone: IS THIS POSSIBLE? Has Master Wu's recipe been successfully replicated? What is the most THC I can get in the smallest amount of pure grain alcohol? We're talking 2 fl oz - maybe a tad more (I have some other bottles too) if necessary.

Chemists - I could really use your help too. I know the heating method would help the RATE of THC absorption to alcohol, but would it increase its solubility per unit as well? If so, that would definitely help me, but would it be a problem when the heat is removed, possibly causing THC to re-precipitate?


Much thanks

[grimes390]

Im also interested in this. I have always wanted to make green dragon but have never found a recipe. Ill be watching this.

pce

[Rhyno]

I have experience with the boiling method. I found that "baking" at a higher temp of 275f for 40 minutes works well on a 1/4 of finely ground herb spread thinly on an aluminum foil plate that I fold up. Then I make 3 pulls using 2oz of 95% for a final amount of 6oz. I then boil that to 4oz for my 2 bottles. What I end up with is 3ml is an excellent ride with 5ml being almost debilitating. I could make this stronger by further reducing but I know what I got each time and 4ml in a 12oz Mountain Dew makes for an excellent evening. If I can help you any further feel free to ask and I will try to help, please be patient though as I am on vacation and not spending a lot of time in front of my computer. One additional note if you should choose to boil your GD. I filter the herb/95% through a coffee filter into a jar. Once the 95% stops dripping I fold my coffee filter into a tightly packed square and squeeze in a garlic press. Good Luck!

--The recipe I started with I think:http://forums.mycotopia.net/cannabis...en-dragon.html (Green Dragon.)

[mushit]

Thats basically Master Wu's recipe, Rhynoceros. And I too get a good 6 hour stone from 2 ml of this strength.

I have used more bud in the recipe but with little difference. You can only saturate alcohol with THC and the rest goes down the tubes.

I wouldn't use a coffee filter because it soaks up a little of the goodness that cannot be retrieved. I don't mind a little residue on the bottom of the bottle if it means getting every drop.

[Dr_T]

I don't know how dense you can get THC into alcohol, but I know that psilocybin can be extracted at 1 gram per 1 mL easily.

If you want to do this well, get a Soxhlet extractor. Having the right tools makes a huge difference in the end product.

[golly]

My one attempt turned out really well using the above mentioned tek [check similar threads at bottom of this page]...
It would be better to use a generous amount of everclear to insure that your getting all the goods , then fan evap down to the concentration desired..

[LunarSageMan]

Hey bukketfollower, i have done the boil down method to 2floz from 6gr. grape mist then after crumbled 1.25gr. of g13xhaze Iceolator hash and put under my bed for 2 months...........end results were a amazingly dramatic 1ml was very good this might intrest u peace

[Boylobster]

Hey, quick question: are we dosing with this recipe by swallowing the final liquid, or administering it sublingually? I imagine it would be difficult to hold even a small amount of everclear in the basin underneath the tongue without salivating copiously and crying like a baby. Oh, wait... I'm not imagining it, I *know* that's what happens! ...and I'd rather not do it frequently. Anyway. What's the word? Thx - BL.

[Boylobster]

Sigh... nevermind. Every time I ask before I try searching I regret it.

I'll contribute something instead: I've found that my GD batches go delightfully well mixed in tonic water, not entirely dissimilar in flavor to a Gin & Tonic. Give it a try!

[oogabooga]

sorry to jack your thread a little...

if you were to use hash, how much would you use per liquid ounce of finished product?

1.75 grams of pot (1/4 of 7 grams) per ounce of alcohol (if 4 oz is your finished product after reduction from 6 oz) is equal to how much hash in strength?

hash could reduce the "greeness" of the finished product further (which is partly the reason for prebaking) and provide a smoother, more cerebral high?

[roscoe]

Hello Mycotopians (first post),

Yesterday swim made a Green Dragon, and used 4.6 grams (amount on hand) of water hash (straw berry diesel) ground in a coffee grinder and poured into 750 ml of Diesel (brand name) grain spirits 153 proof. The mixture spent 4-5 hours in a water bath approx. 150 F. Was also shaken every ten minutes. Today the once clear booze is now a greenish brown with about 3/16" of hash on the bottom of the bottle. Swim guesses about 1.5-2 grams.

Swim felt brave (well kinda) and poured half a shot and backed it with some water on a full stomach. Got sleepy and, last thing swim remembers is his buddy laughing and letting himself out of the house.

Swim loves hash and smokes and eats it on a regular basis, and is very happy with his Green Dragon. The reason I capitalize Green Dragon is because it deserves respect. If you dont it wont kill you but youll wish you were dead. Or at least out of spinsville!!!




peace,

[ShroomGuerilla]

I like to throw GD into some sweet tea with a splash of rum maybe some other tasty boozes and voila - Bong Island Iced Tea!

[roc]

Bong Island Iced Tea!

Sweeet!

[bucketfollower]

Thanks for all the replies everybody it helped

[Rhyno]

Thought I would bump this thread as Green Dragon mixes well with iced tea or lemon aide on these hot summer days!

D(rink)WAD!

[smilinjack]

I have one question. What is Green Dragon? I know I'm old but I didn't realize I was that old.

[Dan Dare]

Originally Posted by smilinjack

I have one question. What is Green Dragon? I know I'm old but I didn't realize I was that old.

Its something akin to "tincture of cannabis"
The active ingredients dissolve into the ethanol leaving the plant material behind, quite potent stuff.

[bosshogg]

if i remember correctly, i think you can put Green Dragon on cigarettes , let it dry and smoke it like hash oil..

[gorilla]

what if you used honey oil?

[PsyBearknot]

Originally Posted by bosshogg

if i remember correctly, i think you can put Green Dragon on cigarettes , let it dry and smoke it like hash oil..

Would that not counter act the desired effects of injesting it by smoking it?

PBK

[abaca]

Hear is a link to the recipe, thought it would be a good reference for this thread http://forums.mycotopia.net/cannabis...en-dragon.html (Green Dragon.)
A couple things GD can be evaporated down to a tar and smoked. So you can make it as concentrated as you want. When I make it I'll filter off the first runnings and sparge the plant material with clean everclear, then evaporate it down to 50ml. This is the size of a mini liquor bottle and the cap of that bottle is connivently 1ml. A dose for me is 2ml for a working high and 4ml to plaster my ass to the couch.
Next the process to make honey oil requires no heat, so I don't think it would be orally active. I think the same would be true for hash. It might be possible heat it up and get the decarboxylation needed for oral activity.

[smilinjack]

Can this extraction be done with fresh plants? I would like to try this for rothbury next week but I don't have anything drying so I would have to use fresh. I have bags and bags of leaf though, how much leaf would it take to make a good batch? What is the cupboad method, I did a search for it but didn't find anything.

[procell]

Originally Posted by smilinjack

Can this extraction be done with fresh plants?

As long as there is THC in the plant it is extractable, though you will have to carbolize (sp?) the thc by heating it before extraction or it will have little effect.
As far as potency goes

6. Dosage. Titration.
You will have to figure dosage with each batch. And you must test it on yourself. The way to do this is through titration (a fancy chemical term that means to determine the concentration of a solution).

see complete post, link above.

[smilinjack]

So u say if I use 20g of leaf I need 200 oz of alcohol? Don't know if I am willing to spend that kind of money. Hmm. Plants will be ready to pull next week so I might pinch a bit and see what I can do with it. So do you think I will have to bake for longer than 20 mins cause it is fresh?

[Ben Dover]

na, i think you just need enough to fully submerge the stuff.

If you need something exact, in the green dragon threads posted above it's 3.5g to 2 fl. oz's. so you that would be something like 35 fl ozs if I'm thinking straight.

Might be better to dry it out first. Not to sure though

[abaca]

You can use leaf or trim. The product will not be as potent without concentrating it down some. (ie GD made with quality bud would dose 1 ml, GD made with leaf/trim might need a 2-4 ml dose)

[rye]

Originally Posted by abaca

A couple things GD can be evaporated down to a tar and smoked. So you can make it as concentrated as you want.

I made green dragon and boiled it way, way down afterwards, and at a certain point I started noticing little brown chunks forming and floating around. i would assume this is because there is too little alcohol, and it seems like the chunks would be wasted because they are no longer dissolved in alcohol, and therefore no longer digestible. also they stuck to the side of the bottle, so they were wasted like that too. of course you could always add a little more everclear at this point and they would be dissolved again.