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Old 04-06-09, 16:50   #1 (permalink)
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grafting cannabis...

really not trying to ya know...but i got a question about grafting cannabis to humulus (hops). now i read about people wanting to graft a branch of some hops to a cannabis rootstock in order to try and make some stoney hops...apparently it doesnt work. my question is: can you graft a cannabis branch to a humulus rootstock (or right off of the plant) in order to camoflage some nugs? just wonderin if there is any info/experience on this subject. i found a ton of info on the myth of the stoney hops but none on the camo buds...just an idea
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Old 04-06-09, 19:03   #2 (permalink)
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I have herd of a pretty decent sounding method thru ppl that i would to believe to work but have not tried it yet, it allows you to keep roots on both plants,
while the branches are still on the plant cut a smoooth chunk out of the two branches that you would like to merge,
place them together and seal with any approite sealeant.
wrap tight and let set for a few weeks then cut the amblical corde once ypou are sure they have bonded
I hsould mention this was said to be done with 2 cannabis plats, just giveing you a idea...
on a couple of forums I have heard of ppl putting different strains on a single stalk but they never had proof!
I have no experiance but tons of ppl say they have done it, I would love to see any results that you get.
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Old 04-06-09, 19:23   #3 (permalink)
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Tying your branches back or growing espalier would seem to be easier. Although in the same family I doubt grafting either onto either is very easy. If it were you'd see some proof.

A book I have kicking around the bathroom "Cooking With Cannabis" mentions that police are monitoring hops nurseries and asking vendors to call police at any odd requests for hops starts. This is of course nonsense and a hoax.

Call me a doubting Thomas but until I see either a Hops plant grafted to a Cannabis rootstalk or viceversa i'll be very suspicious. Especially the part about the high THC hops , thats right up there with high THC oranges.
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Old 04-06-09, 22:00   #4 (permalink)
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gotta love those high-thc oranges!

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Old 04-07-09, 02:42   #5 (permalink)
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interesting method omen. that really sounds cool. i was just wonderin if anyone had any info or first hand experience. i have read about a successful humulus to cannabis rootstock graft but it didnt produce stoney hops but supposedly the graft took. thats why im wonderin if it would work vice versa. i have found no info on this matter. just speculation
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Old 04-07-09, 07:20   #6 (permalink)
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Even if you could graft it, it would still look like pot, so whats the point.
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Old 04-07-09, 18:00   #7 (permalink)
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with the height advantage i was just thinkin camo would be easy it being above eye level ya know?
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i dont see how putting the cannabis plant on the humulus rootstock would camouflage anything. and, i dont know why anyone would want to do that, the cannabis root system is hardy enough. interesting, but a little pointless i think.
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Old 04-08-09, 15:24   #9 (permalink)
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with the height advantage i was just thinkin camo would be easy it being above eye level ya know?
Put your plant in a soil filled burlap bag and place into the top of a tree. FOAF did this in Hawaii for a while.
....cops do have choppers you know.
I think the bonsai trim is the best way to camo it.
I've seen some funky looking sensi that looked like it was some sort of Japanese maple... till it budded.... and stunk.
The overall problem is it will still look and more importantly smell like the ganja
I admit it is an interesting question, but with no positive outcome its not likely to get an answer from somebody's experimentation.
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Old 04-08-09, 20:26   #10 (permalink)
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I grafted a sativa clone to a hoochie hops plant once in band camp
It was the best marihoochie we ever smoked
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Old 04-10-09, 13:26   #11 (permalink)
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i dont see how putting the cannabis plant on the humulus rootstock would camouflage anything. and, i dont know why anyone would want to do that, the cannabis root system is hardy enough. interesting, but a little pointless i think.
you really dont have to see how it would camouflage it. i didnt ask opinion on whether or not this would help to camouflage, i asked if any one had actually done it. so thanks to everyone who has a productive answer for me.alounacara-would you care to elaborate a bit on this experience at band camp?
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I grafted a sativa clone to a hoochie hops plant once in band camp
It was the best marihoochie we ever smoked
lol I think i was there. this one time in band camp......rofl

hmm..I had a buddy once that swore up and down he somehow introduced the vine dna from some sorta plant to a mj plant, and had it stealthed in his garden under all his taller plants. Didnt see it first hand, but I have seen some wierd dna transfer shit that he did that is mind blowin, so I dont doubt it too much.
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you really dont have to see how it would camouflage it. i didnt ask opinion on whether or not this would help to camouflage, i asked if any one had actually done it. so thanks to everyone who has a productive answer for me.alounacara-would you care to elaborate a bit on this experience at band camp?
done what, plant grafting? its done every day, its not some miracle science. and you did ask for my and everyone else's opinion. "my question is: can you graft a cannabis branch to a humulus rootstock (or right off of the plant) in order to camoflage some nugs?"

maybe let me elaborate. if youre looking for some kind of stealth from this, im saying it doesnt make any sense. how does grafting provide any camouflage at all? if you put the branch on the rootstock, its going to grow out a cannabis plant all the same.
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lol I think i was there. this one time in band camp......rofl

hmm..I had a buddy once that swore up and down he somehow introduced the vine dna from some sorta plant to a mj plant, and had it stealthed in his garden under all his taller plants. Didnt see it first hand
One time at band camp i planted a stealth Indica plant that was surrounded by Early Girl `mater plants
Thats the ticket and no grafting was required
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sorry for being snappy mushaboom. youre right. i live in a city and if you saw my back yard youd understand why i wanna get a plant up high.(i dont think the flying pigs look for cannabis on city rooftops,etc. but i could be wrong). if its impractical, its what it is. im new to ideas in cannabis cultivation and its just a question i was kinda bent on. innovation and experimentation lead to progress...
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its all good broham! i thnk even though they may not be looking for it in particular its still not the best idea to leave it right in the open like that. i think your best bet is to go a little bit outside of your city. maybe some forest land that has recently been clear cut or thinned out, and is not likely that anyone would really ever be there except in another 5 or 10 years when it is time to thin the forest again. look to those pine christmas trees for cover. oh, and make sure you have a greeen strain. haha, nothing like planting a blue or purple plant in the middle of those trees. they wont even need flir then!
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Here's some info that may be relevant ... and hopefully helpful.

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An "espalier," (pronounced "es-PAL-yer") is any plant trained to grow in a flat plane against a wall, fence, or trellis. The word espalier also may be used to describe the technique of training a plant to this flat plane. A French word, espalier is derived from the Italian spalliera, which means something to rest the shoulder (spalla) against. The Romans originated the technique, but later generations of Europeans refined it into an exacting but rewarding art.
Info on Espalier:

http://edis.ifas.ufl.edu/MG273

And a few pics:

http://www.espaliertrees.com/photos.html

What wiki said:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Espalier
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