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| rip-off artist Join Date: Jun 2008
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If a grow room does not have an outlet to plug your lights into, can you use an exstention cord to power a 400 watt light? I am talking about using one of the single outlet, orange kind. Not the cheap kind that has 3-4 outlets on it.
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| Myco-Monkey Join Date: Sep 2007
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Do you mean you have a 2 prong outlet? And you are trying to convert it to a 3 prong via an extension cord? This can be very very dangerous. You must make sure that the 2 prong outlet is grounded, in many cases these ones are not. This can result in burning your house to the ground... Or if you are running a cord from another room with proper grounding, make sure the cord can handle the juice you are pumping through it, most cords have that info on their package. Hope i answered your question..
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| NudistBuddhistRawFoodist Join Date: Dec 2006
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I am not qualified to give any advice, but... Using an extension chord up to 80% of it's load capacity should be moderately safe. Hint: Don't coil excess chord On a side note, I'm running an air conditioner off an extension chord atm. I think it's an 800 watt air conditioner, and the chord is rated for 1750w
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| Smother? Join Date: Oct 2008
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i would bet you could load a stock length of extention cord with 80% of its rated load. no more and no longer. the best type is called SO cord and you can get it in any size. I have seen this stuff abused to the MAX! i am an electrician and i use it in my own house. like were i sleep.
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| El Jardinero Join Date: Apr 2007
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As mentioned, a properly grounded extension cord is a good idea. If you don't have an equipement grounding conductor ( a green wire) or the "D" shaped hole in the receptacle outlet face Try to protect the circuit with a GFCI - Ground Fault Circuit Interruptor Only load the ciruit to 80% of it's rating capacity If a 20 amp breaker powers the circuit: the maximum load on the circuit is limited to 20 amp breaker 20 amps X 80% = 16 amps 16 amps X 120 volts = 1920 watts Load requires a minimum size # 12 AWG conductors in the extension cord 15 amp breaker 15 amps x 80% = 12 amps 12 amps x 120v = 1440 watts Load requires a minimum size # 14 AWG conductors in the extension cord Commercially available HID lighting normally comes with a multi-tap ballast capable of recieving multiple voltage inputs. (120v, 208, 240v, 277v, 480v, and others) I'm presuming you're using the 120v tap for the ballast. |
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| Harvester of Sorrow Join Date: Apr 1972
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whatta you think would happen if you ran 2000 watts on a 20 amp breaker? Its only 80 watts over 80%. Safe?
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| Mycophage Join Date: Dec 2008
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Dee PS: One little trick that you can use is to have a separate timer for each light and stagger them a few minutes so that the starting surge from both lights doesn't happen at the same time. | |
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| Picktish Texas Style... Join Date: Jan 1972
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Good advice the in rush current is what can make fires ++Rep points ![]() Oops i cannot give you rep points again but somebody else should
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| Mycophiliac Join Date: Apr 2009
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a foaf ran 10/3 NMD90 300V from the panel to his room and a 2 pole 20 amp breaker was installed in the panel(abit pricey but he's taking it ALL with him when he moves). BUT he's using 9-42 watt cfl so he's well over the limits. BUT the biggest thing is bonding to ground, like everyones sayin heh. I also am an electrician. making sure that every fixture is bonded and that every polarity is right is the biggest key. just make sure your testers work well enuff. voltage drop is probably the only concern (after everything bonded of course ) but usually you don't see much drop until past 30 meters. but yes, I must stress bond to ground!! if your fixture becomes live, best case scenario you get a gentle poke. worst case, you burn your house down and you with it! good luck! great info in this thread. Myc, your numbers remind me of school. I love it! foaf might have gone overkill with the 10/3 but his room has two circuits(balanced loads aswell) and has plenty of headroom to add more.BTW voltage at outlets are 117 all around the house...thats the VD that you can't fix cause it's most likely right off the poll |
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