stunted growth?

[gary]

what is the common error when ur plants are always stunted? they just grow with the first set of 1 finger leaves and the next set is realy small and thats it they stop growing..

[cap]

compacted soil, overwatering,nute burn/destruction.
40% finely shredded canadian sphagum peat moss 50% chunky perlite, and 10% vermiculite (aka promix or sunshine mix potting soil, or another seedliong mix called "jiffy mix' is PERFECT for mj starts...) then the only other thing promix contains, or your pottin soil needs, is, beneficial mycos, and starter fert (organic or syntetic, such as promix BX which contains a starter fert keeps the plants goin 2 two weeks to a mth without ferts, i prefer fox farm (www.foxfarm.com) peace of mind DRY FOOD to mix in, or promix bx brand which HAS a ff p.o.m. type foood already mixed in) also known in bulk bags as 'promix', this fluffy potting soil, when uncompacted in beer cups with PLENTY of drainage holes, fed lightly with PLAIN water the 1st two weeks and lighting (fluoresccent, 1-3" from tips of plants witha fan rustling the foliage gently to prevent burning should the lamp get too warm which is rare) will accelerate plant growth exponentially. you have an anaerobic root zone, start over with promix with added perlite to fluff it even more, or buy the jiffy mix starter soil, do NOT overwater, and keep your fluroescent close like an inch away and a fan lightly circulating air over the tops and youlll be good. jiffy plugs, peat plugs aka, are a great way to start seeds easily too. just be sure if mixin yer own mix use hydrated lime to balance the peat moss' slightly acidic pH! promix brand already does it for ya tho and jiffy mix is MADE for seedlings, so find that at the nursery if u can all it is is verm perlite and lime

[cap]

AND NO LIQUID FERTILIZERS TILL THE PLANTS ARE DEVELOPED AND SHOW SIGNS OF NITROGEN DEFICIENCY ON THE LOWER BRQANCHES/SETS OF LEAVES! YOURS ARE TOO FUCKED UP TOO YOUNG TO BOTH ER WITH START FRESH ONES ASAP!

NO FERTS *AT ALL* ARE NEEDED 1ST 2WEEKS OF PLANTS LIFE THATS WHY THEY HAVE COTYLDONS, THOSE PROVIDE THE SUGARS AND SUCH EEEDED BY THE PLANT AND WHEN U SEE COTS FALL OFF AND LOWER LEAVES YELLLOW, YOU CAN HIT WITH SOME NITROGEN LIGHTLY

[gary]

thanks a lot for that cap
ive been doing my grow outdoors but oneday i want to try an indoor controlled setup.il try to look for those peat for seedlings as i have been having this trouble lately.i got my soil from a local garden store here its their own mix of 5 in 1 i dunno wat parts they are. awhile ago i mixed some perlite and repotted some,hopefully they wil grow.if not id go back to soiless mix.
nothing beats smoking your own..

thanks again cap

[Dan Dare]

Originally Posted by gary

what is the common error when ur plants are always stunted? they just grow with the first set of 1 finger leaves and the next set is realy small and thats it they stop growing..

Hi Gary,
I'll echo the good advice you've been given already and add that I've seen this problem a few times in previous grows, I've always put it down to overfeeding the cuttings/seedlings. In each case, they never fully recovered and were eventually replaced with new plants. As cap quite rightly points out, there are other potential causes too. This happened with my very first grow, it turned out I'd stunted the growth with love !

Since maintaining cuttings/seedlings on half strength nutes (or less) I've never had this problem occur for at least a few years now.

[gary]

yeah dan ur right..
but the case is i dont use nutes specially when they are still young and really seldom when they grow, i grow them naturally as possible..i can see that the soil is always wet, so later im gonna try soil perlite soil and verm for a mix,, then soiless mix..i believe its my soil now thats caqusing them this stunting..

[gary]

this is what im saying..the 3 finger grew very slowly i hope they wud still grow..