Oblivion seeking good strain.

[Oblivion]

I was over in chat the other day and we got to talking about grass and what not. Anyway, I've been growing for 20 years now. It's the same strain dad showed me on. I can grow green well enough for sure but I have zero knowledge on strains or even if my green is sativa or indica. It has served its purpose sure enough and I will never not grow it. However, I would like to know what Im growing so I was thinking you folks could point me in the right direction for a decent strain. Im sure this is gonna be like asking what cubes are the best (they're all good) but I figured it's worth talking about.

[Mushrooms201]

O would do a search online for past winners of contests or go to high times, they regularly publish a list of outstanding strains.

[procell]

Originally Posted by Oblivion

I would like to know what Im growing

Humm, yeah that's a tough one. I've got my strain and I also don't know what it is. I've brought it around and most people think it's some sort of diesel strain, but this was started before that strain hit the market. The best I can do is to look at the growing leaf and see how thick or thin the leaves are. Right now I'm thinking 80% sativa. Any pics of yours?

[designlogic]

most likely a indica/sativa hybrid as most are these days
read this, it is a great article on history and origins of species

http://www.cannabisculture.com/articles/4721.html

basic id info
http://www.erowid.org/plants/cannabi...is_info6.shtml

tons more general all around information here
http://www.erowid.org/plants/cannabis/cannabis.shtml

also take a look at a seed catalog such as
http://www.cannabis-seeds.co.uk/seed...feminized.html *
and you find out that there are basically a ton of different strains

(*I am not recommending this seed distributor, just an example I'm sure there are members here who can vouch for reliable sources however)

[procell]

Originally Posted by designlogic

also take a look at a seed catalog such as
http://www.cannabis-seeds.co.uk/seed...feminized.html *

Nice seed catalog but very pricey, 10 packs of seeds for $160.00+ Each

5 seeds of CH9 FG13 $50.14 cannabis-seeds.co.uk
10 seeds of CH9 FG13 $40.00 seedbay

[Shadowlord]

You like a thoughtful, philosophical stone or do you like to be stuck to the couch and go to sleep?
Maybe one of each for different times of the day?
Have to know more about what you like to try to pick a good strain for you. And then there are the many phenos each strainhave in them. That is why when you find one you really like you try to keep the clones going and going. It sounds like you have that part down if you have been growing that strain for as long as you have.

[Oblivion]

I have been propagating from seed all this time. I've cloned a few from time to time just to make sure I knew how but seed is the norm. Definitely don't like couch lock. Some good reading there, thanks for that. I'll post some pics and show you what I've got.

One thing I wanted to mention about dad. He's 90 years old. He grew up during the depression and went without. He was'nt a 60's lsd trippin, peace symbol wearin' protesting hippie. He didnt have time for that, he had 7 kids to take care of. He did what he had to do to make sure we had food and clothing. He showed me how to grow grass so I had the tools to provide for my family if I things go south. I never have had to take that step and hope I never do. I just wanted to say that about him. I didnt want anyone to get the wrong impression of him. He's a hard man.

[Oblivion]

Ok, I read through the info. Sounds like I may have a hybrid of primarily indica properties. I save off the pollen of males and use it to pollinate when I need seed. I have very little knowledge of strains and so on so you will have to forgive my ignorance. I'm continuing the hybrid process and most certainly don't have what I started with. What is the high like from indica and sativa? The reason I ask is over the years, sometimes I'm as lazy as fuck and other times I find myself re-organizing my basement or moping the kitchen floor for the wife.

[GodofOldGodsWatching]

Indica-heavy strains are the strains more apt to give you the couch-lock feeling -- they're a heavy, physical/full body high. In contrast, sativa-heavy strains give a powerful cerebral high, which means you're going to feel very productive and want to get up and go.

So I'm guessing for your new grows you want something sativa-heavy. A few good sativa strains are as follows:

Kali Mist
Kiwi Green (pure sativa)
Jack Herrer
various "Haze"s

[gorilla]

check out "ace seeds" for really fine sativas. they have their version of "haze" called "oldtimer's haze" which uses genetics from all over the world and is supposed to be a very fine smoke. although sativas like these need a lot more time to flower and may be more suitable for outdoor grows, they can be done indoors very well.

[Jaspmf]

oldtimers haze is an amazing strain.

Genetics: 100% sativa. Hybrid of different tropical sativas: Mexican, Purple Highland Colombian, Southern Indian (Kerala) and Thai.

The Haze was developed in California in the 1960s and 70s by crossing some of the best tropical sativas which had been imported during that period. Its exact genotype remains unknown, but it is probably a hybrid of different sativas from Mexico, Southern India, Colombia and Thailand, the two latter being the most dominant in the final hybrid.

This mythical sativa, which has been the starting point for the development of the best hybrids of the past decades, was about to disappear during the 1980s due to the introduction of skunks and indicas in the breeding scene.

Our Haze population comes from the last reproductions made with this variety in California, and it has been preserved intact until today by Oldtimer, a British breeder, and then reproduced by our breeders using a wide diversity of parental plants.

Oldtimer’s Haze still preserves the genetic diversity that many present Haze lines have already lost, and it is possible to find phenotypes ranging from the mythic and nearly extinct “Purple Haze” to the most popular “Green Haze” phenotype, and of course intermediate combinations as well.

By flowering the Hazes at low temperatures, the garden fills with beautiful autumn colours that vary from light green to red, blue and purple.

The flowers gather forming willowy bunches that achieve good volume, when grown under optimum conditions.

Oldtimer’s Haze has an incalculable value for every preservationist, collector and breeder that is looking for a Haze’s population that still conserves all quality and genetic diversity of the original hybrid.

Oldtimer’s Haze is a delight for 70s sativas lovers, a trip back into the past for all those who could not enjoy it at that time.

Structure: Slim and elegant plants, with a tall, branched structure. Medium-length internodes. At the time of growing, the leaf is very thin and shows a pale colour. It reacts very well to pruning.

Bouquet: Dark, fruity aroma, with earthy touches of ashes, incense and antique wood aroma.

Green Haze’s aroma is fruitier (like tropical ripe fruit), while Purple Hazes smell like blackberry and black liquor.

Effect: Strong stimulating and mental effect, without heaviness or physical weakening. A high level of THC and low level of CBD together produce a no-limit effect, which allows you to get higher and higher with each intake. It can produce anxiety and paranoia in high doses and/or to persons prone to these conditions.

Flowering: it takes between 16 and 24 weeks, depending on the plant’s size and the flowering conditions. Outdoors it ends between the end of December and January.

Production/m2: Medium-low.

Growing type

Indoors: we only recommend it to extreme sativas lovers and breeding projects.

Outdoors: Only in tropical or subtropical climates. Within latitudes between 20º and 35º, we would recommend a warm, coastal climate and the use of a greenhouse.

Oldtimer1 is a sweet dude. Runs the grow forum I frequent. Cool to see mention of him

I dunno that I'd recommend it as an indoor strain though.
100% sativa isn't the best option for doing an indoor grow.
NOT to say it can't be done... because it most certainly can.

[Jaspmf]

Indoor or Outdoor?

Are you interested in a heavy yeilder?

You want big dense buds or light fluffsters?

What kinda stone do you like?

You want a stinky bud or one w/ not so much smell while growing?


My advice would be to get a couple packs of seeds from very different parts of the spectrum (i.e maybe an 80% sat/20% indica....and an 80% indica 20% sativa)

Find out whatcha like ya know?


Joey weed is gaining alot of ground w/ folks I know.
Alotta cool strains. Can get pretty good genetics for very cheap.

Honest and reliable from everybody i've talked to.

I have yet to order from him, but I'm looking @ getting the C99xAk47
and also C99xNL

Plus for as cheap as ya get em, you can get a few different varieties and try em out


P.S Cool about your paw teachin you how to grow. Sounds like quite the man.

[DrDee]

Hi Oblivian and group...
I started smoking in the late 60s when sativas were the only thing available. It was some sweet smoke and all grow outdoors. Then late 70s with Afghan hitting the scene...things changed. Now it seems there are so many poly-hybrids out there, it just gets confusing.

I try to stick with either an ibl (inbred line-true breeding) or a landrace (original never been hybridized). Something like the weed you've been growing where when you make seeds...they produce plants just like the parent plants.

I've had really good luck with a Canadian seed seller High Grade Seeds
http://www.highgrade-seeds.com/

I've grown out the Black Pearl and it's a very vigorous growing sativa dominant strain. Good yielding and a strong high. They also have several new offerings...Kona Gold and Swazi Red which both sound very nice.

I've also used Reeferman genetics but they're harder to find. Peak Seeds BC is a discount seed seller that has some very nice strains.

I just don't see any reason to spend $200 for 10 seeds. That's madness. I've sucessfully purchased from all those that I mentioned. Secure and reliable shipping and fair prices. I'd avoid Sannie strains and AnsterdamMarijuanaSeeds. Bad juju there...
Peace,
Dee

[Diacetyl-M]

If you want to read about different strains I'd recommend picking up a copy of the cannabible by jason king... it's beautiful book with full colour photos of hundreds of strains with descriptions of the highs, taste, and aroma... I emailed the dude who wrote it and he said his favourite for the last few years has been Cheese. Doesn't really sound good (as in smoking cheese lol), but he says it's exquisite smoke. I think you can order it from big buddha seeds. Shadowlord is growing thier blue-cheese, and I eagerly await his report on the quality

I'm partial to blueberry and romulan myself... but have been looking for a change lately as well. Anything from DJ short is supposed to be excellent. I'd like to try "flo" as it's supposed to be a super motivational high which is always nice.

[Shadowlord]

I haven't had the Cheese yet but The Blue Cheese is quite nice so far.
It hasn't had time to get much cure on it yet but it is already my favorite.
It has a light blueberry smell to it not the strong blueberry smell one usually gets in the BB influenced strains. Unfortunately, I was only able to get one clone to take from them so I will have only a little of it next harvest. But I will clone the hell out of this last remaining one as the Blue Cheese is a keeper so far.
I have only grown for a few years and usually keep strains around until I get offered new cuts of stuff and have to let something go but so far the Blue Cheese is not bad at all. Grows very Kushlike buds that are nice and sticky and it has a hashy flavor to it but it is easy to smoke. Not a lungbuster strain.

[whatchamacallit]

The Cheese is an elite clone, that a UK fellow found after starting 10,000 skunk #1 seeds. In all the phenotype variations, he found 1, that he labeled the cheese, that has a creamy smell and taste (one of the best flavors SWIM has ever had), much sweeter and greener than any skunk flavors, with slightly leafy buds, but good structure for a bush, and very greasy type resin. It is still pretty frosty, though, and is a good middle of the road high. It can be smoked throughout the day without really causing couchlock, but isn't terribly cerebral. It's not the most potent, but the smell and taste make up for that. It's definitely a good addition to any garden.

[ShroomGuerilla]

I love me some cheese.

[Oblivion]

Unbelievable how many strains there are. I never knew. You guys have been a great help. I definitely see the value of cloning now.

[junior1]

Someone say "cheese"

Heres my own lil cheesy cross hit a Stanky ass U.K. Cheese female with a short fat Northern lights male.
Still got a month+ till the chop coming along nicely though.

[seedlessstinky1]

Originally Posted by junior1

Someone say "cheese"

Heres my own lil cheesy cross hit a Stanky ass U.K. Cheese female with a short fat Northern lights male.
Still got a month+ till the chop coming along nicely though.

Nice plant.
I agree the Blue Cheese is incredible Shadow....

[prism]

My Advice is to join a weed forum and hang out for a while... make some friends.. I never buy seeds... Too many breeders out there wanting their creations grown out.. And I am all too happy to oblidge..

I let the pros spend the loot on Genes, then I enjoy the crosses, all for the price of a detailed Growlog (which I love to do anyway) Win Win really.

Just remember that Patience is a virtue and variety is the spice of life.

:0)

[ShroomGuerilla]

I only have Big Buddah Cheese.
I wish one day I get ahold of the infamous UK Cheese clone.
MMMmmmMMMmmmmMMMMmm