The Drobe (maybe a growdiary of sorts?)

[Jaspmf]

The space is a 3door wardrobe from Ikea.

The genetics are C99xNL from JW. Hopefully I'll get some descent sat dominant smoke. I really like the sat high, so that's part of the reason why I chose this strain. I also like the idea of a low scent grow. Even though I'm going through a carbon filter, better safe than sorry. I'm really crossing my fingers on these genetics. I'd like to get an oldschool NL close to the "original" sometime in the future.

It's lit by a 270w HPS in a Sun Reflector w/ a 250w digital galaxy ballast.
The mother room is lit by a 100 w 6500k CFL in some sort of reflector.

The whole place is lined w/ 2 mil mylar.

The exhaust is a 4" eco inline fan feeding into a big eco carbon filter. Intake via passive slots in the back of the mother/clone room. The air is pulled into the flowering chamber through a DIY light baffle on the mother-side with a 100cfm axial fan.

The seedlings were started off in black gold (canadian peat, dolomite, perilite, and some top secret wetting agent)

They will be potted into Foxfarm Ocean Forest eventually.

Working with BioBizz Grow + Bloom for now. Thinking of getting one of those microrihzae bottles to mix in with the soil. Gotta have some good biology happening in the soil, we'll see.


The whole operation takes place in my bedroom. I rent a room in a place shared w/ a few other people, so stealth is of the utmost importance. My bedroom door locks and everything, and everybody keeps to themselves...but I feel that a drobe is by far the most suitable- possibly the only way I could grow.

I chose the 270 watter over a 400 just because venting out of the bedroom can basically only be via an oscilating fan w/ open window in the summer. It'd get mad hot w/ a 400 watter running in the room 12 hrs a day. I haven't exactly sorted out what I'll do as it gets colder. In due time.

The drobe is near complete as far as building goes. Basically all I have left to do ATM is seal a few leftover light leaks and finish adding a section of mylar. Otherwise it's operational. I'd like to switch out the locks on the bottom for something a little less "suspicious". Not that anyone ever goes in my room, but it'd be nice.

[Jaspmf]

So here's a shot of the mama room.

The super lanky tall plant thing is one of 3 total neglect-tek seeds I sowed out in the woods.

Magically, they all grew! Not too well though. Anyways, I'd be gutted to lose the genetics.
Gifted from an outdoor grower who'd been breeding them for years and years.
The tall bugger I pulled roots and all, hopefully it'll survive.
The other 2 I just chopped as clones and am hoping they'll root.
Hopefully Olivia's will pull em some roots!
It's hard to say though, they were pretty far along into flower.

Prolly gonna save the 3 as mum's if I can and get shit started a month or 2 before season next year.


Anywho, enough about those plants. Here be the real *crosses fingers* ladys!

[Jaspmf]

The lower leaves had a few little snags.

Still haven't pinned what the problem is. Either a K def, which seems somewhat doubtful...or they got a little water on the leaves and burrrrnneed.
It's also possible that they got pissed from being underwatered (I let them go about 24hrs too far imo)

Tough to say.

As of now the lowest set of leaves are fairly dried out in comparison to the newer growth...and they have little pits. Yuk!

[Jaspmf]

And here they are as of just now.

They're maybe 2 weeks from germination?

Good news too! One of the 3 outside plants is confirmed to have roots! Yay!
Obviously the tall one still does too. The other one still has plenny of life in it, so hopefully it'll take too. I'm fairly surprised, it's basically a little budsite turned clone

So far they're pretty healthy (aside from the previously mentioned boo-boo w/ the rottie things)

They've had 2 light feeds of BB grow.. being the stoner I am, I potted them in too big of pots - and in the most nutrientless medium ever.
The black gold they're growing in has 0 nutrients. It's just for germ/cloning. They should have started in dixie cups or something very small. By now they should have been potted up into what they're in, and be living in some good foxfarm oceanforest. Oh well.

So far though my nute application has been pretty close, so we'll see what happens

Sucks that the root-ball won't be quite what it should. Oh well. They'll pot on and grow up to be nice little girlies

Lookin perdy tho
They're staying VERY squat for such a Sativa dominant strain thus far. Surprising to me!

As you can see the lower leaves aren't the happiest ever, but such is life.

Anyways I'll shut up, happy growing ya'll

[apokalypse]

Excellent post! Great setup I hope it works out well for you

Is that a fight club poster on your door?

[jay-pheno]

neat-o cabinet man

swim does dwc in a cabinet close to the same size ,

[Jaspmf]

Originally Posted by apokalypse

Excellent post! Great setup I hope it works out well for you

Is that a fight club poster on your door?

Thanks for the kind words pal.

As a matter of fact you can see a few inches of a fight club poster there can't you!

Originally Posted by jay-pheno

neat-o cabinet man

swim does dwc in a cabinet close to the same size ,

Thanks for stopping in Jay. Is it a 3 door setup similar to this, or all one big area?

The division of space is kinda cool imho, makes for a nice mother room/storage area.

Who knows maybe I'll put a little 100watter in the space above the mommie room

I hope SWYM's cab is doing well

Take care!

[ShroomGuerilla]

nice cab buddy.

[Jaspmf]

Y'all can join me on my wonderful adventure!

[Jaspmf]

Here's some pics of the hopeful ladies from today.

They're looking pretty good. I'm surprised at how squat they're staying. They're all under 2 inches! Must be happy w/ the lighting, so no stretchy yet.

Just wait til flower. Then they go big.

I've had them under the HPS for a day or two now, just to see how they fair.
So far so good. Seems like they like it

Take care buds


p.s the pics are kinda blurry today and my lighting sucks (window's open)

And another note: god i wish i would have started them in smaller pots! Such a silly move on my part DRRRR.

[Jaspmf]

Gettin a tiddle bittle bigger, not by much tho

They're staying SO short!
I guess they like it 8" from the HPS

Still a ways away from pot-up.

Funny that I keep taking pics like every 2 days. My new obsession I guess

[Theodore Blass]

hello there
i hope you dont mind me giving my opinion however you should use a small wattage bulb for rooting...your not trying to develop the plant, you want it to concentrate on the root development. the soil does not seem to be draining too well and some of the plants were stretching for light badly.
dont give them ANY nutes right now, and keep from doing so till the develop a bit. let nature take its course before you start enhancing it.

wish you the best of luck
~BLASSTED

[kcmoxtractor]

I would go ahead and re-pot those. Sure you could wait longer, but why? Give them more room and they will probably take off.

[Jaspmf]

Originally Posted by Theodore Blass

hello there
i hope you dont mind me giving my opinion however you should use a small wattage bulb for rooting...your not trying to develop the plant, you want it to concentrate on the root development. the soil does not seem to be draining too well and some of the plants were stretching for light badly.
dont give them ANY nutes right now, and keep from doing so till the develop a bit. let nature take its course before you start enhancing it.

wish you the best of luck
~BLASSTED

Heya Theo, I appreciate you stoppin by pal.

Please do give your opinion! And continue to do so even when I'm too thick headed to listen hehe.

The more the merrier, and the more knowledge that goes into this grow the better it'll be.

I'll try to respond to each of your points.

I moved them under the higher wattage bulb because due to circumstances I was forced to turn off the little 100cfm axial fan that draws air out of the mother room. (it's pretty loud and I'm having the rad in my room bled sometime this week) So the temps were getting too high to leave them in there w/o the fan drawing the air out (90's, even spiking up to 100) I may buy a different fan, or I may buy one of those cheapo-s duct fans to keep it quieter.

The soil drains pretty well actually. The pics there were 5 seconds after a watering.

As for stretch..what stretch? The plants are about 2" tall...

No nutes, absolutely correct. I haven't given em any for some time now. (aside from maybe 1/4 ml/l rootgrow or w/e it is)

The roots are coming along very well, as a matter of fact I had to repot 3/5 of the plants as they were getting near root-bound.

I hope you'll stick around and keep an eye on em, gotta make sure I dont do anything stupid.

[Jaspmf]

Originally Posted by kcmoxtractor

I would go ahead and re-pot those. Sure you could wait longer, but why? Give them more room and they will probably take off.

Yeah, just had to let them build a bit more root-mass.

If you repot too early the plant never really utilizes all the medium within the pot.

Too late and it's root bound and won't continue it's root growth outwards in a new pot.

I repotted 3 out of the 5 tonight, I should've taken pics of the root-balls, but tired and lazy. They were definitely ready. Funny that you called it basically right on the spot.

The other 2 are at least a few days behind, still have a little bit of "colonizing" to do.

Thanks for stopping by kcmo

Do stick around and enjoy the show

[Jaspmf]

So here be some updates

They're getting big! Repotted them some odd days ago (maybe 3 or 4?)

I'm happy to announce that one of the 3 buggers I pulled from outside took. It's lookin healthy, and putting on new leaves

The lanky one is puttin on new growth too

I'm starting to tie them down a bit and whatnot...getting em prepared for the screen

[Jaspmf]

And here's the cloney mabob from outside

[Jaspmf]

This one is lagging behind. It had mutant leaves from the second it sprouted...so I imagine it won't make the final pick. I'll let it keep going for awhile though, maybe she'll turn around

It can be noted that a few of the leaves on several of the plants got a wee lil nute-burn. I haven't fed them since way back when...but apparently it got to em late.

I still can't believe how squat they're staying. VERY little space between nodes. Maybe it's the supposed 30% increased blue spectrum that the super agro bulb I use has goin on...who knows.

[kcmoxtractor]

Looking nice and stout! Those are off to a great start, probably another week or two and that dresser will have a canopy!

[Jaspmf]

Thanks KC

Yeah, it's amazing the new growth on the daily now. They flyin.

I reckon you''re right tho, another couple weeks and it'll be a damn jungle in there.

Glad ya stopped by

[Rhyno]

Great thread! Are you going to scrog these?

[Jaspmf]

Yea buddy, sure am.

It should turn out really well. The sun reflector came w/ a glass pane...the way I have it setup w/ the exhaust pulling straight out of the reflector keeps it cool from like 1" away from the glass.

So I'll beable to keep it REALLY close to the canopy

Thanks for swinging by and the kind words. Stick around and enjoy the show

[Rhyno]

Will do and best of luck to you. I am thinking of this type of project in the future. Be careful as it sounds like your privacy is questionable.

[Jaspmf]

Welp today was a few hours of work in the drobe.

Plants got repotted, and not soon enough! They're rootbound or close to it.
Really ripped through the last pot, astonishing.

Anyways they're doing pretty well.

Haven't descided if these 3gal's will be the final resting place or not. I guess it depends on how many fem's I end up w/

If it's only 1 or 2 I'll prob opt for 5 gal's...
Also depends on when I shoot em into flower too I suppose.
Time will tell.

PIC 3 is a suspected boy.

But we must have balance in the world...so it makes sense that I also have a confirmed girl. And she's the healthiest looking plant (my favorite)!

[Jaspmf]

And whadda we have behind door number 2?!

Hehe.

I'm combatting some problem w/ the lower leaves...haven't pinned it yet.

I'm thinking it's due to the plants being root-bound...they're prolly pissed.

Really not sure though, so I'm open to suggestions. As long as it isn't LSF or something dumb I'll be just peachy

[Jaspmf]

Temps have been stable round 80-85.
Humidity between 30-40%

Overall they're doing pretty well. Growing like crazy.
They stand somewhere around 6" tall maybe. They're @ least that wide hehe.
The leaves are finally starting to get nice n big - sat-style

I've decided to give em a few days to break free before I really start harassing them with training. The earlier stuff was just a TASTE of what i'm bout to do to these buggaboos.



Anyways cheers y'all. Much love to all you topian's out there!

[kcmoxtractor]

I think that picture is a male, for sure. Looking very nice though! When did you start 12/12?

[Jaspmf]

I still haven't gone 12/12.

They're roughly a month old, so it's somewhat surprising that they're showing so early.

IME preflowers will show after more than 6 weeks of vegging...but this is def on the early side.


After some background reading (because I was surprised too!)



According to Mr. Soul (the original breeder of C99)

Cinderella plants always show preflowers at the 5-7 branch sets during the VEGETATIVE stage… when they’re a little over a month old. Mr Soul ”

So that's exciting! I reckon that's a good thing, my plant ACTUALLY matching at least one description of the ORIGINAL


Thanks for asking the question kcmo, you really prompted research on my part...which lead me to a nice discovery! Hopefully it turns out to be the real deal (or close to it )

Really gets my wheels turning about this particular strain.

NL is my alltime favorite smoke. Never had C99 b4, but it's had quite the hype in the right places. I reckon I'm about 10 years late to get on the train for it though...by now the genetics are prolly fairly diluted.


P.S thanks for the kind words.

[kcmoxtractor]

C99 is great in my experience, never grew it, only smoked it. Hope yours turns out great also!

[Jaspmf]

[red_lenses]

What is the ph?
That almost looks like a mag deff.
With a soil grow Phosphorus,Calcium,and Magnesium all get locked out below a ph of 6.5
I would check the runoff ph and maybe give it a little cal-mag.
Red

[Jaspmf]

I don't own a PH pen, but I know the ph in my city is actually notoriously on the higher side of things.

So I'd doubt it being too low.

It's a strange phenomenon thats for sure.

It seems to be getting worse too, and it's tough to say what the eff it is.

I'll try the cal-mag and see how that works. Hopefully that ends up bein the dealio

[Jaspmf]

Well things are going pretty well. Had to take off quite a few of the larger fan leaves just incase it's something fungal.

I really doubt it is, as a matter of fact I'm beginning to think more and more that it's underwatering.

A pal from another board pointed me at one of his diaries....looked almost identical. The only thing our two grows shared in common are lack of watering.

The earlier nasty stuff that looked similar to this was when I let the rootball shrink away from the pots n whatnot.

So I'm going w/ that

I've added perilite to the tops of the pots (about 1/2 - 1") It definitely does the trick, the top soil doesn't dry out in 5 seconds like before.

I've also upped my extraction (it's on a speed controller)

Anyways it'll take a little recovery time, and I wanna get everything sorted out real well b4 I go into flower.

Plus I gotsta build the actual net!


Anywhose thanks for reading


Also looks like I have @ least 2 boys. Hard to tell tho, and my camera is shit.
I'll wait awhile before I do anything hasty

[kcmoxtractor]

Blackstrap molasses is a good source for calcium and magnesium for ganja. The sugars in it are good for soil cultures also. Use anywhere from 1/2 tbsp to 1 tbsp per gallon of water and mix it up well. I personally think it makes the final product a little more tasty and calyxes more swollen also.

They look well trained, but it is odd that your leaves are not droopy if you have been under-watering.

[Jaspmf]

Word

I'm still not sure what the problem is. It could be something fungal, just underwatering seems to be a likely candidate.

I think tomorrow I'll pick up some essence and see how that works out. Worst it could do is nothing.

I'll have to try blackstrap, never heard of it.

As for training....just you wait I got my scrog netting today, sometime this weekend I'll get it all good n setup

[kcmoxtractor]

They have blackstrap molasses by the corn syrup and other syrups in most chain stores. It is only about 3 dollars for a bottle and it lasts a while.

Blackstrap molasses is a source of calcium, magnesium, potassium, and iron

From the Wiki on molasses.

[Jaspmf]

Piccys

[Jaspmf]

Welp I think tonight I'm gonna start 12/12.

They're getting fairly big...

If I have 2 females, it could become an overgrown forest as is It's really hard to guesstimate, as I've never worked w/ this strain and I really dunno for sure how many ladies I'll end up with.

IF I end up w/ two, I should be alright in filling the screen (which I still have yet to put up )

Bought a couple slideouts and will be building a slideout shelf w/ the scrognet attached...no way in hell I'm trying to mess w/ em without bein able to slide em out.

Anyways, it's time to sort out the girls from the boys.

Took clones of each plant and labeled em aswell, hopefully they'll fair fine.

Also I never did get essence (hydro shop doesn't carry it).
Did get some neem oil and sprayed w/ that...but I dunno the realities of its anti-fungal properties.
I fed w/ FF bloom aswell, incase it is a P deff.

As they sit assuming 2 girls, they'd cover around 35% of the net? Seeing as they're sats n whatnot I think its best to just go for it now. I'd hate to see it overgrown

[Jaspmf]

Also forgot to mention that I bought PH strips, tested and am right at 7 w/ my water...
so my problems aren't ph related.

They're maybe 8 inches tall hehehehe. Been trainin the shit otta em

[Jaspmf]

Gdammit! its driving me crazy not knowing the sex of these little varmits.

Itslike am I gonna end up w/ 0 girls?! Is it just gonna be the really lanky one that's a lady?!? I'm all like WTF mate ^^

EEKkk

[kcmoxtractor]

Did you start 12/12? Are you using any molasses or micronute products?

[Jaspmf]

Yea I started 12/12 a couple days ago. It's time to sort out the girlies from the lad's.

As for micro-nutes, I'm using organic soil along w/ organic feeds. I also let loose a buncha microrhizae aswell (which really has nothing to do with anything). Anything organic typically has lotsa micronutes in it from what I know.

So although I'm not using any one specific micronute product I'd think I'm covered?

As for the mollasses I forgot to buy some DOH! I'll try n pick some up today
Thanks for stoppin by!

[Jaspmf]

Still have yet to get molasses.
I went to target, but they were out.
Tomorrow hopefully.

As for the nastiness, it seems to have stopped. Dunno, maybe it was P after all.

Narrowed down 1 of the 4 in flower to be a boy. Of course it was the healthiest/biggest one. Naturally. So I had to cut it down, which sucks. I'd liked to have kept it just because it was such a nice plant

Anywho down to 3 in the flower room, within the next few days hopefully I'll beable to tell for sure what the other ones are..

I'm really not sure, the one lanky one is a girl w/ 90% certainty

I kinda think the other two will end up bein boys, and if that's the case it'll be a real empty room. Maybe I'd have to revert back to veg for another month to fill it up lol

[kcmoxtractor]

Pics 3&4 look like males.

[Jaspmf]

Yea, it's the one that got the chop hehe

[Jaspmf]

So today was a sad day

Had to chop 2 of the 3 remaining in the flower room. But the 1 is definitely a girlie, so I'm thinking I'll throw it back into veg for a few weeks to fill out the screen.

I may also pot up the one that lagged behind, it's still perdy small and chillin in the mama room right now. But @ least that way I'll get to narrow it down.

Pretty gutted that I ended up w/ only 1 descent fem, and one real laggy lady otta 5.

Guess that's how it works.

The good news is everything else appears to be going A ok.

Might be a good thing anyways, cuz now I'll flower out the tall lanky girl from outside too... she's quite the lil sativa

Anyways hope y'all are havin a good weekend

[Rhyno]

Well on the bright side your one female will benefit from the extra attention it will get because she is an only child. Spoil her rotten!

[Jaspmf]

Hehe no doubt!

[Jaspmf]

Here's some piccys.

I kinda did some bad to the lanky bugger on the right. Moved it into the flower room, but hadn't watered it in a couple days.

Lotsa leaves got nice n crispy, so I figure I'll prolly lose 30% of the fan leaves @ least. Oh well. Dunno how it's gonna do anyways, since it's just one longass stem up to the canopy. Dunno how well i'll beable to train it @ this point. Time shall tell.

It's cindy in all her glory! Crossin my fingers perdy hard that it's a good pheno. I'll prolly throw the other one in with it in a few days, gotta buy some more foxfarm to pot up in. Cheers y'all

[Theodore Blass]

the one on the left seems to be a bit crisp on the tips no?

cant really tell because I cant zoom in too close but they seem sexy nonetheless

you might want to lst/tie em instead of train em through the net...might work out better for ya and the plants might respond to it faster than they would be able to take to the net.