2400watt indoor Hydroponic setup: start to finish

greenie · 11-04-09, 22:08

Ok. I'm setting up a new project here, goal is maximum yield per watt without using co2 enrichment. I will in detail explain how every thing inside the room is contructed and setup, from the construction of the hydrobuckets i am constructing to the constrtuction of the grow room itself. This is a work in progress which will be updated daily as i contsruct the room. I will be done with construction within 2 days. Lets get started

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greenie · 11-04-09, 22:18

ok. heres how i built my 'hydrobuckets'. they are a combination topfeed/dwc system that is very active and requires alot of maintenance. heres how i set it up. you need the following equipment (per 6):
6x top inside thread 3/4 pvc T pieces as seen in the first pic
6x female piece that fits into the T piece
6x 5 gallon (not white or translucent) buckets with lids
6x 4" net pots
6x 4" airstones
hydroton
air pump
1" drill bit
caulking

First i drill 1" holes in the bottom of each five gallon bucket, near the center but offset. I take the female piece, and apply a thin layer of caulking over it and feed it through the hole from the inside. the top of it should not slip through the hole. take your T piece and screw it on as tight as you can, and then add more caulking around it to make sure tis sealed. you do NOT want anything to leak.
Now take your lids and cut 4" holes in them in the center. it does not have to be exactly in the center, but try and get it close. I used a marker to draw circles around the net pots and then used a box cutter to cut the outline out. stay inside the line so that your netpot doesnt fall through. it should look like the pics below.

greenie · 11-04-09, 22:31

This is what the room looks like tonight. it will look very different tommorow

greenie · 11-04-09, 22:33

this will all come together tomorrow. The buckets will be fully functioning tomorrow.

Manofmanyhats · 11-04-09, 22:35

watching intently.

kcmoxtractor · 11-04-09, 23:08

I'm gonna watch this one. What strain or strains are you running?

greenie · 11-05-09, 00:01

i will be focusing in Hindu skunk and hopefully a new one of sr71's offering called 'sour grapes'

Jaspmf · 11-05-09, 01:07

Oooh this should be interesting

/pulls up a chair

tenjin · 11-05-09, 08:35

Wow

2400watts!
this should be interesting, you go greenie!
SWIM has looked into hydrobuckets too with hydroton, they seem great.

prism · 11-05-09, 08:53

Quote:

Originally Posted by greenie

i will be focusing in Hindu skunk and hopefully a new one of sr71's offering called 'sour grapes'

Hey Greenz thanks for this!! Great help to us Amatuers learn about CO2.

Also... I have some SR71 Purple Kush x SSH #3 running right now. Be cool to see the similarities of our flowers.

Jaspmf · 11-05-09, 09:27

Quote:

Originally Posted by greenie

goal is maximum yield per watt without using co2 enrichment.

lol ya been smokin too much prism

prism · 11-05-09, 10:21

You are right...

Still will be cool to watch... I am gonna remodel if I ever get off crutches.

ShroomGuerilla · 11-05-09, 13:29

fuckin a man,
lookin forward to see your....redecorating.

skanked1st · 11-05-09, 15:37

What size is the room?
How many plants?
And what type of lights?
Sounds great I will be watching, i wish you big flowers.

Raoul Duke · 11-05-09, 16:18

Wow, That's a lot of lumens! Can't wait to see the end results

roc · 11-05-09, 18:09

Grasshopper pulls up a chair... show me!

Indonesia · 11-07-09, 11:53

Nice! what will you do for room air temp? how are you planning on keeping the rez water cool with all those lamps?
looking forward to seeing the setup. foaf is subscribed

prism · 11-07-09, 12:06

What happened to you Greenz? You get stoned on Ganja food and pass out?

TheFreak · 11-07-09, 12:14

cant wait to see this i used to have a ebb and flow buckets. they produced some monsters, now i have kids so project are on hold. sure miss the smell of my grow room....

Stonehenge · 11-07-09, 13:58

Just my opinion but i think people are better off doing a straight dwc than a drip feed system as you seem to be making. Not that your system won't work, it's just a lot more trouble than plain dwc and more risk. By risk i mean the risk of flooding which after fire and cops, is our biggest threat. Water can ruin a house or apt. to the point you have to tear it down after mold gets into the walls and so on. I don't mean to scare anyone but make sure you know what you are doing before you go to a drip feed with a return. One tiny leak and you are ruined.

You didn't mention the pump or central res which i assume you will be using. Back when i grew i used straight dwc with good results. I had one flowering room that used 2 kw and 2 smaller rooms that used 600w each. It's a lot of work changing the solution on dwc but there are a few tricks to make it easier.

Good luck with your project and keep those pics coming!

greenie · 11-07-09, 22:01

hey guys sorry i been running around like.... a stoner who usually just smokes weed to a guy who works a regular 9-5! i dont know how you do it... anyway. heres the room today: ill explain how it got there in a second.

greenie · 11-08-09, 01:16

heres a diagram. ill post how it works in the morning.

kcmoxtractor · 11-08-09, 01:31

Lookin' nice man! Cant wait to see this in action...

Theodore Blass · 11-08-09, 13:43

Quote:

Originally Posted by greenie

heres a diagram. ill post how it works in the morning.

WOW

Cant wait to see it in action!
One hell of a setup

G'luck

Dutchdude · 11-09-09, 06:44

Wow cool setup!

I am really curious about the yield you get.

*subscribed*

weeeeeee · 11-09-09, 08:41

jeeeezis greenie cant wait to see what you pump out of that 2400 watt grow definitely pulling up a chair for this one

dice · 11-09-09, 11:20

Damn greenie looks like your gonna have a nice grow room.
Im pullin up a chair for this one.

libertaire · 11-09-09, 11:23

waylitjim · 11-09-09, 11:26

Cool setup greenie!

prism · 11-09-09, 11:33

Sick!!

Jaspmf · 11-11-09, 01:35

Haha someone must be busy w/ the build

Initial setup is always the hardest part innit

Way cool setup greenie

Mushxmagik · 11-11-09, 02:38

looks like a sick growroom ahead, def pullin up a chair to check this one out! good luck!

btw 2days 11/11 make a wish!

Jaspmf · 11-11-09, 11:55

11/11?

greenie · 11-11-09, 13:32

i have been having nothing but trouble with water leaks... now that the buckets are 100% water tight, my goddamn rainbird heads are leaking everywhere... GRRRRRRRRRRR anyone with experience with rainbird 8 ehad spigots got advice on makin em NOT leak everywhere???

prism · 11-11-09, 14:02

Sorry for the issues man but that's building growrooms right?? ...

Best vibes your way on this one man!

Stonehenge · 11-11-09, 14:13

I hate to say i told you so but that's the major problem with ebb and flow and even more so with drip buckets because you have so many lines and connections. Something is always coming loose. Straight dwc means no water going from one place to another. Even with dwc make sure your air pumps are above the water level because they will start siphoning solution lots of times after they are turned off.

Good luck with it. You can make it work and then you will be in green heaven.

kcmoxtractor · 11-11-09, 15:21

Silicone for making gaskets? Maybe take it to a plumber, since you are a legal med grower and all...

greenie · 11-15-09, 14:09

update: i have scrapped the bucket system for now as i do not have the time or patience to work with it right now. im gettin tables today and will have them up and running by tonight. maybe next time... lol

Jaspmf · 11-15-09, 15:12

Bummer dude.

Hopefully your tables go up easy breezy

Stonehenge · 11-15-09, 15:26

Buckets work great you just have to have an air pump for each one and keep it above the water level. I pick pumps up at wall mart for around $10 or they might have jacked it up a buck or two since then. To change the solution just use a siphon hose and another bucket. I even had a hose running to the tub so i didn't have to carry buckets.

Buckets let you move the plants around where you want them. Tables generate tons of algae after a while. And you still have the leak situation and lines running water from one place to another. People have made it work but you can't beat dwc for simplicity and results.

prism · 11-15-09, 17:54

Or soil...

Jaspmf · 11-15-09, 19:51

W/ a 2400 watt garden soil's a shitload of work though

Although the end product is better too (IMO)..

Same reason u see most commercial folks going the hydro route..just less hassle and whatnot

kcmoxtractor · 11-15-09, 19:55

I see a very distinct difference between commercial and medical grows.

On thcfarmer, the user hererisssh has a wonderful DIY standalone 2g DWC system that will cost you under $20. Linkage - http://www.thcfarmer.com/forums/f95/...c-bucket-2551/

greenie · 11-16-09, 00:53

got the tables up and running in less than one hour lol. ill put up pivd in a minute.

greenie · 11-16-09, 01:27

heres so far

mystic · 11-16-09, 01:39

WOOOOOOT !!!!!!!
Thats an amazing room my green friend.

prism · 11-16-09, 09:11

Nice

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11-04-09, 22:08	#1 (permalink)
greenie Pot Farmer Join Date: Apr 2007 Posts: 1,560	2400watt indoor Hydroponic setup: start to finish Ok. I'm setting up a new project here, goal is maximum yield per watt without using co2 enrichment. I will in detail explain how every thing inside the room is contructed and setup, from the construction of the hydrobuckets i am constructing to the constrtuction of the grow room itself. This is a work in progress which will be updated daily as i contsruct the room. I will be done with construction within 2 days. Lets get started! __________________ I am not real. I am a computer program.

11-04-09, 22:18	#2 (permalink)
greenie Pot Farmer Join Date: Apr 2007 Posts: 1,560	Construction of hydro buckets ok. heres how i built my 'hydrobuckets'. they are a combination topfeed/dwc system that is very active and requires alot of maintenance. heres how i set it up. you need the following equipment (per 6): 6x top inside thread 3/4 pvc T pieces as seen in the first pic 6x female piece that fits into the T piece 6x 5 gallon (not white or translucent) buckets with lids 6x 4" net pots 6x 4" airstones hydroton air pump 1" drill bit caulking First i drill 1" holes in the bottom of each five gallon bucket, near the center but offset. I take the female piece, and apply a thin layer of caulking over it and feed it through the hole from the inside. the top of it should not slip through the hole. take your T piece and screw it on as tight as you can, and then add more caulking around it to make sure tis sealed. you do NOT want anything to leak. Now take your lids and cut 4" holes in them in the center. it does not have to be exactly in the center, but try and get it close. I used a marker to draw circles around the net pots and then used a box cutter to cut the outline out. stay inside the line so that your netpot doesnt fall through. it should look like the pics below. Attached Thumbnails __________________ I am not real. I am a computer program.

11-04-09, 22:31	#3 (permalink)
greenie Pot Farmer Join Date: Apr 2007 Posts: 1,560	Room before construction This is what the room looks like tonight. it will look very different tommorow Attached Thumbnails __________________ I am not real. I am a computer program.

11-04-09, 22:33	#4 (permalink)
greenie Pot Farmer Join Date: Apr 2007 Posts: 1,560	this will all come together tomorrow. The buckets will be fully functioning tomorrow. __________________ I am not real. I am a computer program.

11-04-09, 22:35	#5 (permalink)
Manofmanyhats Mycophiliac Join Date: Oct 2009 Posts: 10	watching intently.

11-04-09, 23:08	#6 (permalink)
kcmoxtractor Satan's Helper Join Date: Jun 2008 Posts: 1,349	I'm gonna watch this one. What strain or strains are you running? __________________ "It was the straying that found the path direct" - Austin Osman Spare

11-05-09, 00:01	#7 (permalink)
greenie Pot Farmer Join Date: Apr 2007 Posts: 1,560	i will be focusing in Hindu skunk and hopefully a new one of sr71's offering called 'sour grapes' __________________ I am not real. I am a computer program.

11-05-09, 01:07	#8 (permalink)
Jaspmf Splendid Confusion Join Date: Apr 2009 Posts: 657	Oooh this should be interesting /pulls up a chair __________________ All gods are homemade, and it is we who pull their strings, and so, give them the power to pull ours. -Aldous Huxley

11-05-09, 08:35	#9 (permalink)
tenjin SeventhSon of aSeventhSon Join Date: Feb 2009 Posts: 549	Wow 2400watts! this should be interesting, you go greenie! SWIM has looked into hydrobuckets too with hydroton, they seem great.

11-05-09, 10:21	#12 (permalink)
prism Running from My Mycelium Join Date: Jun 2007 Posts: 3,925	You are right... Still will be cool to watch... I am gonna remodel if I ever get off crutches. __________________ No matter how pretty the fire is, dont touch it!

11-05-09, 13:29	#13 (permalink)
ShroomGuerilla Myco-Monkey Join Date: Sep 2007 Posts: 1,300	fuckin a man, lookin forward to see your....redecorating. __________________ Revolución motha fucka, you heard of it? I light the spliff with the flag, while I'm burnin it

11-05-09, 15:37	#14 (permalink)
skanked1st Mycophiliac Join Date: Mar 2009 Posts: 44	What size is the room? How many plants? And what type of lights? Sounds great I will be watching, i wish you big flowers.

11-05-09, 16:18	#15 (permalink)
Raoul Duke Mycophiliac Join Date: Feb 2009 Posts: 106	Holly lumens batman! Wow, That's a lot of lumens! Can't wait to see the end results

11-05-09, 18:09	#16 (permalink)
roc Old Man Join Date: Mar 1970 Posts: 4,296	Grasshopper pulls up a chair... show me! __________________ ubuntu! Member of Native Geekaho Tribe. "Think for yourself and question authority"

11-07-09, 11:53	#17 (permalink)
Indonesia Mycotopiate Join Date: Nov 2007 Posts: 220	Nice! what will you do for room air temp? how are you planning on keeping the rez water cool with all those lamps? looking forward to seeing the setup. foaf is subscribed

11-07-09, 12:06	#18 (permalink)
prism Running from My Mycelium Join Date: Jun 2007 Posts: 3,925	What happened to you Greenz? You get stoned on Ganja food and pass out? __________________ No matter how pretty the fire is, dont touch it!

11-07-09, 12:14	#19 (permalink)
TheFreak Mycophage Join Date: Aug 2009 Posts: 139	cant wait to see this i used to have a ebb and flow buckets. they produced some monsters, now i have kids so project are on hold. sure miss the smell of my grow room....

11-07-09, 13:58	#20 (permalink)
Stonehenge Mycophage Join Date: Aug 2009 Posts: 111	Just my opinion but i think people are better off doing a straight dwc than a drip feed system as you seem to be making. Not that your system won't work, it's just a lot more trouble than plain dwc and more risk. By risk i mean the risk of flooding which after fire and cops, is our biggest threat. Water can ruin a house or apt. to the point you have to tear it down after mold gets into the walls and so on. I don't mean to scare anyone but make sure you know what you are doing before you go to a drip feed with a return. One tiny leak and you are ruined. You didn't mention the pump or central res which i assume you will be using. Back when i grew i used straight dwc with good results. I had one flowering room that used 2 kw and 2 smaller rooms that used 600w each. It's a lot of work changing the solution on dwc but there are a few tricks to make it easier. Good luck with your project and keep those pics coming!

11-07-09, 22:01	#21 (permalink)
greenie Pot Farmer Join Date: Apr 2007 Posts: 1,560	busy working hey guys sorry i been running around like.... a stoner who usually just smokes weed to a guy who works a regular 9-5! i dont know how you do it... anyway. heres the room today: ill explain how it got there in a second. Attached Thumbnails __________________ I am not real. I am a computer program.

11-08-09, 01:31	#23 (permalink)
kcmoxtractor Satan's Helper Join Date: Jun 2008 Posts: 1,349	Lookin' nice man! Cant wait to see this in action... __________________ "It was the straying that found the path direct" - Austin Osman Spare

11-09-09, 06:44	#25 (permalink)
Dutchdude Mycotopiate Join Date: Jul 2006 Posts: 253	Very interesting! Wow cool setup! I am really curious about the yield you get. subscribed

11-09-09, 08:41	#26 (permalink)
weeeeeee humanoid Join Date: Jan 2008 Posts: 1,851	jeeeezis greenie cant wait to see what you pump out of that 2400 watt grow definitely pulling up a chair for this one __________________ -p.l.u.r

11-09-09, 11:20	#27 (permalink)
dice Jack of all trades. Join Date: Aug 2007 Posts: 1,762	Damn greenie looks like your gonna have a nice grow room. Im pullin up a chair for this one. __________________ When in doubt Pack another

11-09-09, 11:23	#28 (permalink)
libertaire Mycophiliac Join Date: Nov 2009 Posts: 56

11-09-09, 11:26	#29 (permalink)
waylitjim A Mirror Image Join Date: Sep 1972 Posts: 4,232	Cool setup greenie! __________________ *Waylit's Exotic Roundup - a collection of sexy threads*

11-09-09, 11:33	#30 (permalink)
prism Running from My Mycelium Join Date: Jun 2007 Posts: 3,925	Sick!! __________________ No matter how pretty the fire is, dont touch it!

11-11-09, 01:35	#31 (permalink)
Jaspmf Splendid Confusion Join Date: Apr 2009 Posts: 657	Haha someone must be busy w/ the build Initial setup is always the hardest part innit Way cool setup greenie __________________ All gods are homemade, and it is we who pull their strings, and so, give them the power to pull ours. -Aldous Huxley

11-11-09, 02:38	#32 (permalink)
Mushxmagik Boomtastic! Join Date: Nov 2008 Posts: 134	looks like a sick growroom ahead, def pullin up a chair to check this one out! good luck! btw 2days 11/11 make a wish! __________________ Shrooms are awesome for getting back in touch with your root. LSD is for reaching out with your branches.

11-11-09, 11:55	#33 (permalink)
Jaspmf Splendid Confusion Join Date: Apr 2009 Posts: 657	11/11? __________________ All gods are homemade, and it is we who pull their strings, and so, give them the power to pull ours. -Aldous Huxley

11-11-09, 13:32	#34 (permalink)
greenie Pot Farmer Join Date: Apr 2007 Posts: 1,560	i have been having nothing but trouble with water leaks... now that the buckets are 100% water tight, my goddamn rainbird heads are leaking everywhere... GRRRRRRRRRRR anyone with experience with rainbird 8 ehad spigots got advice on makin em NOT leak everywhere??? __________________ I am not real. I am a computer program.

11-11-09, 14:02	#35 (permalink)
prism Running from My Mycelium Join Date: Jun 2007 Posts: 3,925	Sorry for the issues man but that's building growrooms right?? ... Best vibes your way on this one man! __________________ No matter how pretty the fire is, dont touch it!

11-11-09, 14:13	#36 (permalink)
Stonehenge Mycophage Join Date: Aug 2009 Posts: 111	I hate to say i told you so but that's the major problem with ebb and flow and even more so with drip buckets because you have so many lines and connections. Something is always coming loose. Straight dwc means no water going from one place to another. Even with dwc make sure your air pumps are above the water level because they will start siphoning solution lots of times after they are turned off. Good luck with it. You can make it work and then you will be in green heaven.

11-11-09, 15:21	#37 (permalink)
kcmoxtractor Satan's Helper Join Date: Jun 2008 Posts: 1,349	Silicone for making gaskets? Maybe take it to a plumber, since you are a legal med grower and all... __________________ "It was the straying that found the path direct" - Austin Osman Spare

11-15-09, 14:09	#38 (permalink)
greenie Pot Farmer Join Date: Apr 2007 Posts: 1,560	update: i have scrapped the bucket system for now as i do not have the time or patience to work with it right now. im gettin tables today and will have them up and running by tonight. maybe next time... lol __________________ I am not real. I am a computer program.