DMT vs. LSD

[PeteyPotHead]

Similarities? Differences?

If I've never done either, which do you suggest I try?

Are they similar enough that I only have to experiment with one?

Are they different enough you strongly suggest I try both, or one over the other? (If I'm real keen on trying atleast one.)

THX guys.

[synth]

ehhh, they are different, yes..

start with whichever you want if you're adventurous.
personally, i'd say start with lsd.

dmt is cool, but boy, it kinda sucks to smoke it. kinda rough on the lungs.

[spacecake]

You should at least have tried LSD ones in your livetime..!
Last very long 4-8 hours with (at least to me) 24-48 hour after glow..
( but this was the stuff from 15 years ago)
Sounds have colors..colors have sounds,you can control your trip..
You can hear the music flowing around the room..

Dmt..I don't now..haven't got good results with it,it only works for 10 minutes or so,..and I don't like short heavy trips...
But most people like it !

Both compounds are totally different,..I can't explain it to someone who has never done any of them.
I now someone explained it to me when I was still a virgin with this,..I thought I new,but it was totally different.
I think psychedelics can't be explained to first timers very well..

[rocketman]

Dmt as taken with aya lasts a long time. 6-8 hours easy. It is closer to mushrooms than lsd. Mescaline is somewhere in between. My last "large" aya trip had me being disassembled pixel by pixel and being re built how I was suppose to be.......or at least thats what was in my head at the time. Colorful and deep. Acid is deep as well with excellent visuals and it is my first psychedelic love. Acid imo opinion like shrooms is NOT very controllable. Mescaline is steerable to me. Cactus is my favorite but, many have problems eating a large amount of the most bitter substance on earth.

[sesshin]

lsd has the capability of sending you on a long 12 hour, self-analytical journey. dmt can catapult you through the universe at warp speed in 7 or 8 minutes, conversing with disembodied entities along the way. which are you in the mood for?

[eternalfrost]

seems lsd is more about exploring the self while dmt is more about exploring the universe.

[Mylo]

don't do acid with a broken arm...

[spacecake]

Originally Posted by Mylo

don't do acid with a broken arm...

?

[Bobcat]

Originally Posted by Mylo

don't do acid with a broken arm...

... he says matter of factly.....

[waylitjim]

If you can't find either,
keep this in mind.

You can make DMT,
you can't make LSD

They're both equally powerful,
both will turn your world inside out,

leaving you with those important questions,
the ones we're all supposed to ask.

Sometimes the questions, are more important than the answers.

[PeteyPotHead]

THANKS ALL!

Nice replies all around, I think I've made up my mind.

*best Mr. Mackey impression*

"LSD's sound good, mmmkay."

[InsidiousDecrepancy]

Wise waylit, a lot to think about there.

[piazao de sitio]

I tried to smoke DMT without succesfull cuz dont extract lol in the time dont know about this. But when I drink ayahuasca, boy the trip wazs great and longer, 10h.

LSD is cool in the first and second time that u drop, at least for me.


peace

[adamredeye]

I googled LSD the other night and was pleasantly surprised to find one of my drawings listed on page 2 of image search It's cool that you use this particular drawing.

Happy tripping,
regards,
adam pinson

Originally Posted by waylitjim

If you can't find either,
keep this in mind.

You can make DMT,
you can't make LSD

They're both equally powerful,
both will turn your world inside out,

leaving you with those important questions,
the ones we're all supposed to ask.

Sometimes the questions, are more important than the answers.

[Gnarcat420]

its like comparing apples to oranges they are both fruit but are so different form each other its ridiculous. Same for lsd and dmt you wouldnt use a screwdriver to hammer in a nail would you?? i feel like they are different tools that should be a part of any psychonauts tool box. you have ta ask yourself do i want to interact with the world/other people or do i want to interact with the universe/spirits.
If you were to ask me which i would choose i would go with the d because as waylit said you can extract it easily and not to mention ive eaten many a RC being passed off as acid so its impossible to say with any degree of certanty what you are gitting with lsd.

[StheNC]

I have a question for YOU sir...

Have you ever had a powerful psychedelic experience?

If you've had a nice strong shroom trip before, then, in a roundabout way, you may find acid familiar, i.e. long duration, strong visuals, synesthesia...

DMT is new to me, but as soon as I hit it I knew that DMT IS IMPORTANT!
I wish it had come into my life twenty years ago.

There's no way I could recommend one over the other, firstly because they are so very different, but most importantly because I don't know what type of experience you have with mind altering chemicals.

Both are very powerful, and either one could freak you out good if you're inexperienced and don't have at least some idea what you're getting into. For anyone, but especially a beginner, ,you need to pay close attention to set and setting. You need to be in a safe, comfortable place. Your schedule needs to be clear. You need to have good people that you can trust with your very life around you. Not because the drugs themselves are dangerous, but its a well known fact that inexperienced people can become very confused in their altered state and occasionally they wind up doing very stupid shit that gets them hurt or in big trouble.

I've met many people in my life who say things like, "I tried acid once, man and fuck that, it sucked! I was all fucked up! That's some scary shit!"
So then I ask them, "Where were you when you took it?"
And they usually tell me that they were by themselves, or they wound up having something important to do in the middle of the trip, or they were in an unfamiliar place, or they got it from a stranger who didn't explain what acid was like, or even all of the above.

Don't be stupid. Taking psychedelics is therapeutic, and if do say so myself, really fucking fun.

Do you have any experienced friends?

Whatever you decide to do, I recommend a non-tripping sitter.

Please be safe, and have a good time.

[space-cosmonaut]

Very well put. I agree with this completely ^^^

Yes you really should have an idea of what you are getting into if you havent tried lsd or dmt. For your first time if your a little worried start light for both. Take a small amount of acid maybe a tab or 2 and if you feel you wanna go further then up your dose. As for dmt, start with one toke and if you liked it wait an hour and then try 2 tokes, and if you wanna continue further repeat process and take 3. But then again you might wanna just jump right in than testing the pool with your toes. Your choice.

[Calaquendi]

"DMT vs. LSD"...?

DMT + LSD...

go easy man, it's all good.

[doodaa man]

If you can find good cid. I would go for that for the first exp. From what i know, it aint what it used to be. so a freak out from one dose would be impossable. But ya never know ! dmt just might freak the poop out of ya for a first timer to the mind expanders ! If you do get good cid, it is the ride i would take for a first mind expander.
You'll deff want to try other teachers ! IMHO
G'luk,
Peace !

[trampis]

never done dmt. i'd like to try it sumtime. a lot of the lsd made today is made shitty, not the real lsd 25. gotta be careful what you put in your body.

[TVCasualty]

I wonder what he ended up doing all those years ago? Another thread, back from the dead,

But I did just notice this thread has had a staggering 53,698 views since it was posted!

I think we can see what people find interesting; this is second in page views only to the BNL's (I think).

[hyphaenation]

Glad that artist came in to add his name to the pic ...

Here's another well viewed thread:

http://forums.mycotopia.net/resist-r...light=gilligan

Replies: 13

Views: 48,736

[SpiritMolecule]

DMT and taking it is a skill that needs to be learned.
But not only do you need to learn how to take it, but why it needs to be taken.

[Yetti]

I started small , mu first then acid , mesc and now dmt but still need to break through on dmt all in good time,,
it's all good , ego loss on any of them can be very interesting, so start small and get a feel for your mind,

[buteo]

Originally Posted by Calaquendi

"DMT vs. LSD"...?

DMT + LSD...

go easy man, it's all good.

i agree with cala. if you think they are good by themselves...they are even better both at the same time. have your cake and eat it too....lol be careful.

[StheNC]

Damn, I just noticed the date on the first post. This shit is old!

I wonder how petey made out. You think he's gobbling acid by the sheet and doing giant steamroller hits of deems, or do you think he freaked out and gave up?

[doodaa man]

I hope he is not in a padded room some where !!!

[space-cosmonaut]

I hope he is not in a padded room some where !!!

I very well hope not. I hear they used to do shock therapy. Very well could be going on today.

[TheObserver]

Do BOTH! but at different times.

Does anyone know what smoking dmt while tripping on Acid would do?
I'm intrigued to try that one day in the future. Wish me luck.

I think DMT and LSD are totally different. You cannot explain dmt
to someone who hasn't really done it IMO. Its just a magical
beautiful experience and thats all I can say - yes you blast off. But i think
its different for each person. I see worms and stuff, idk why but i
i love it. And since i can make dmt is all the more reason to do dmt.
I'll do acid when i can get it. I like the long acid trips when i go to festivals.
don't DOA - drive on acid, its ill advised and freaks you out when you pass a cop.

hmmmm, is this post really still active?

[real_psily]

Its active because we make it active LOL
DMT while on acid is tough. I almost need a sitter/friend just to get the process started and completed. Very intense to say the least. Acid mixes very well with the Phenethyls too. I love the synergy between cid and x, but have recently found out cid and mesc is
So DMT vs LSD = both, all of the above

Originally Posted by Vincent

Do BOTH! but at different times.

Does anyone know what smoking dmt while tripping on Acid would do?
I'm intrigued to try that one day in the future. Wish me luck.

I think DMT and LSD are totally different. You cannot explain dmt
to someone who hasn't really done it IMO. Its just a magical
beautiful experience and thats all I can say - yes you blast off. But i think
its different for each person. I see worms and stuff, idk why but i
i love it. And since i can make dmt is all the more reason to do dmt.
I'll do acid when i can get it. I like the long acid trips when i go to festivals.
don't DOA - drive on acid, its ill advised and freaks you out when you pass a cop.

hmmmm, is this post really still active?

[jigsawfip]

i would try L first, it's a great introduction into the world of psychedlics. DMT can be extremely intense due to the rapid onset of the trip. LSD can be intense as well, so i'd only recommend taking one hit your first time, always chances to work your way up later

[StheNC]

I say make a mushroom sandwich with seven grams between two sheets of acid and then hook youself up to an IV DMT drip.

[Oroborous]

Originally Posted by StheNC

I say make a mushroom sandwich with seven grams between two sheets of acid and then hook youself up to an IV DMT drip.

Now that's the spirit!

[TVCasualty]

Originally Posted by StheNC

I say make a mushroom sandwich with seven grams between two sheets of acid and then hook youself up to an IV DMT drip.

Adding some corn starch to Ayahuasca will thicken it up for use as a sandwich spread which I would highly recommend because seven grams between two sheets will be really dry and hard to choke down without plenty of Mayohuasca.

[StheNC]

Originally Posted by TVCasualty

Adding some corn starch to Ayahuasca will thicken it up for use as a sandwich spread which I would highly recommend because seven grams between two sheets will be really dry and hard to choke down without plenty of Mayohuasca.

Sounds pretty delicious, but wouldn't you rather call it ayahuascanaise?

You're totally right thoughI gag just thinking about trying to eat seven dry grams and two sheets of acid without some sort of condiment.

How about instead of cheese, a sheet of window panes?

And instead of lettuce, some datura leaves.

And instead of tomato, a big fat slice of bridgesii.

I'm gonna need a Tums.

[real_psily]

Well... I like the sound of mayohuasca... mmmmm
I am digin' the sammich below, but why dry when freshies would be much better on a sammich. Oh and I'll take microdot on my sheet buns instead of sesame seeds, or poppy seed "buns". Hold the datura and put extra sugar leaf with some cannabutter to dip it all in...
... Two Please.

Originally Posted by StheNC

Sounds pretty delicious, but wouldn't you rather call it ayahuascanaise?
You're totally right thoughI gag just thinking about trying to eat seven dry grams and two sheets of acid without some sort of condiment.
How about instead of cheese, a sheet of window panes?
And instead of lettuce, some datura leaves.
And instead of tomato, a big fat slice of bridgesii.
I'm gonna need a Tums.

[TVCasualty]

You know, this would be a really cool looking picture if it was made up by those same people who make food for photo shoots. It would be at once awe-inspiring and terrifying in its potential, yet whimsical and funny too. I'd call it "Feed Your Head!"

And let's not forget the DMT crystals and Salvia 55X in their respective salt and pepper shakers, or for breakfast how about the hash pancakes slathered with maple-flavored DXM syrup with a big glass of Orange Sunshine juice on the side?