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| Down on the Pharm Join Date: Dec 2006
Posts: 395
| A few days ago I was walking down the street when I came across an SD memory card just sitting there on the ground. There was nobody around that it could have belonged to, so I brought it home to see if there was any sort of ID file or something. The card was full of pictures, and a text file which instructed that the foll0wing was to be posted on mycotopia (anybody lose an SD card? ):1. 445.9g MHRB was broken up and finely shredded in a glass blender 2. 15 tbsp NaOH was added to 3,400 mL dH2O (Always add lye to water). 3. MHRB was combined with basic H2O in a 1 gal HDPE water jug. (If the mixture is basic enough, it will turn a slippery black color) 4. This mixture was allowed to sit for 1 hr. During the last 30 min, the jug was placed in a hot water bath. The jug was shaken periodically throughout the whole hour. 5. 250 ml vm&p naphtha was added to the jug. The jug was shaken for ~15 min ![]() 6. After 15 min the naphtha was separated off with this handy syringe contraption (hell of a lot easier than a turkey baster). It was made by gluing two meat injector syringes together, and then gluing some 1/4" Polyethylene tubing to the tip. If you happen to suck up some basic sludge, don't worry, just empty the syringe into a pyrex measuring cup. The solvent can then easily be poured off of the tiny bit of sludge you may have sucked up ![]() *Apparently, using two syringes is necessary so that the naphtha does not come in contact with the rubber on the plunger. because naphtha will melt/corrode the rubber on shitty meat injector syringes. I suspect if one had access to lab grade materials that don't degrade with chemical contact, this could be avoided. 7. 4 naphtha pulls of 200-250ml were done in total. Before the 3rd pull, another 100ml of basic dH2O was added to the mixture 8. Separated naphtha was placed into pyrex baking dishes. Lights were used as a heat source to accelerate the evaporation of 2/3 of the solvent. *If you decide to do this, it is very important to pay attention to your evaporation trays, checking them constantly* ![]() 9. The remaining 1/3 of solvent in each pan was left to evaporate for 24 hrs. Screens were made out of some wood and some nylon stockings. They were very cheap to make, and are highly recommended if one will be going the evaporation route. ![]() *Optimism skyrocketed when the first pull began to crystallize while the naphtha was still warm* 10. The next day the screens were removed to find many beautiful crystals. First Pull (still drying): ![]() Second Pull: ![]() Third Pull: ![]() Fourth Pull: ![]() Yields to follow... |
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| Down on the Pharm Join Date: Dec 2006
Posts: 395
| Yields The 1st pull yielded 1.9g of large, tannish crystals, mixed in with whiter powdery crystals: ![]() 2nd pull yielded 1.1g of white powdery crystals: ![]() 3rd pull yielded 1.2g of white powdery crystals: ![]() 4th pull yielded 0.6g of white powdery crystals: ![]() Total Yield: 4.8g very clean spice, with no defats, and no washes. ![]() (1st Pull on the left, 2nd, 3rd & 4th pulls combined on right) Since the 4th and final pull got 0.6g, there is no doubt that there are goodies left in the mix. The mix has been stewing for a week now, and more pulls will be done when time permits Crystal porn to follow... |
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| YoUsEeNOthiNg Join Date: Jan 2007
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| [quote=lysergic;513022]A few days ago I was walking down the street when I came across an SD memory card just sitting there on the ground. There was nobody around that it could have belonged to, so I brought it home to see if there was any sort of ID file or something. The card was full of pictures, and a text file which instructed that the foll0wing was to be posted on mycotopia (anybody lose an SD card? ):rorlmao it's mine if you can find were i left that room! some one did a very nice job on this ! ![]()
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| narf Join Date: Jan 2008
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| ![]() my foaf can't wait to smoke those babies. you still didn't post my favorite picture though.... ![]() these crystals blow my mind. especially the perfectly shaped parallelograms (or are they rhombuses?) scattered across the bottom of the dish. hot damn.
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| Admin Join Date: Feb 2001
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| very nice
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| Down on the Pharm Join Date: Dec 2006
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| Down on the Pharm Join Date: Dec 2006
Posts: 395
| Was able to locate the owner of the SD card. He updated me on his experiment: The mix was allowed to "stew" for ~3 weeks Another 100ml of basic dH2O was added 2 more 150ml naphtha pulls were done These pulls yielded 0.4g each of light yellowish spice (this will probably be cleaned) The 5th & 6th pulls combined: ![]() So to re-cap: 1st pull: 1.9g 2nd pull: 1.1g 3rd pull: 1.2g 4th pull: 0.6g 5th pull: 0.4g 6th pull: 0.4g Total Yield: 5.6g from 445.9g MHRB (~1.26%) with no defat or re-crystallizations I was told that the bark will be allowed to stew for another few weeks, at which point 2 more pulls will be done. (Xylene or Toluene pulls may also be attempted). It seems to me that there is much more spice still left in the sludge after the initial pulls. I think there is great benefit in letting the bark remain in the solution at room temp, in order to milk it for everything it has. An update will be posted once the last 2 pulls have been cleaned. ![]() |
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| Star Gazer Join Date: Apr 2008
Posts: 570
| Freeze precipitate Could you freeze precipitate with this tek? Swim was going to use Marsofolds tek for his first try, but likes this one. Also, would an ammonia wash be good to make a more clean product?
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| DeusMeTocou Join Date: Jul 2007
Posts: 23
| Evaporation Well I did my extraction by the same process but i had no results I wonder if the problem was on the shaking of the jar... how did u shaked ur vessel? Or maybe the evaporation of the solvent... I didn't understand how u did it... ...I simply put the petroleum ether and shaked(shoke?) the glass with my fist, on circles, not SHAKING IT STRONGLY because I was afraid to form an emulsion that I couldn't take back with the sirynge, then i put the petroleum ether on a large dish and made it again with each jar 3 more times Then i put the large dish with naphtha on the fan and i waited... i waited for 15 mins and i saw no crystals, just translucent drops with no taste. I thought "shit! it's water! My dmt has gone with the naphtha, just like the sea breeze" then I tried to get it from the air with my hand, so i didn't get and the I cried because i had no more petroleum ether and put the content of the jars away Can anybody tell me what was wrong? And finally, congrats man... ur crystals are beautiful... and greetings from Brazil ![]() |
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| Mycotopiate Join Date: Feb 2008
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How much bark did you use? How much Lye. Any Pictures? | |
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| Down on the Pharm Join Date: Dec 2006
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First, If you are using enough lye, emulsions should not be a problem and should separate after ~10 min no matter how hard you shake it. You can also use heat to break an emulsion. Second, 15 min is not nearly long enough for enough solvent to evaporate to allow crystals to form. I think it took ~3 days for my foaf's solvent to fully evaporate. If you do not want to wait that long, you can do a freeze precipitation. There's a lot of info about it on this site. Just use the search engine Good luck | |
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| DeusMeTocou Join Date: Jul 2007
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| i lost everything... I used one full tablespoon of lye for each gram of grinded MHRB... Well, what temperature I need to do freeze precipitation? Do home freezer works for it or I need a laboratorial one? And what the right way to shake the jar with black liquid + solvent? So sad i lost a 200g MHRB extraction because of my pure ignorance... |
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| Star Gazer Join Date: Apr 2008
Posts: 570
| Never done a freeze precip. before but what I read on hear is that a home freezer is ok, but it needs to be able to freeze ice cream hard. I would imagine if you set your freezer to the coldest setting you would be fine.
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| Star Gazer Join Date: Apr 2008
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| Break throught Lysergic, Has your friend been able to break through with the spice he has? I was wondering what would be considered a normal dose of this here spice in order to break through. Also, has anyone tried this tek with the freeze precipitation method? How did the final product look? Thanks
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| Down on the Pharm Join Date: Dec 2006
Posts: 395
| Yes, a home freezer will work. A razor blade seems to work well for scraping the dishes. Quote:
My foaf, and many other foafs have had many breakthroughs with spice that was acquired like this. I'm not sure what the weight of normal breakthrough dose would be because my foaf is very experienced with eyeballing doses of it. Recently, however, 50mg was weighed as a reference, and I can say with great certainty that it takes much less (probably ~1/2 as much) than 50 mg to break through with spice like this. Neither my foaf or any of his foafs have ever smoked a dose that came close to 50 mg of it (that is if this scale was correct). My foaf usually loads a medium sized "bump," or a pile a little bit larger than the eraser on a pencil into his machine with astounding results... | |
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| Mycophage Join Date: Mar 2008
Posts: 109
| First of ...great tek. I'm wondering, can you mix the bark with the distilled water...THEN blend? It might do a better job, and what do you think about blending it with the lye mixed in too? Also where did you order the bark from? I've heard of folks who ordered weak stuff, I'd like to have the best chance possible with the best bark. Thanks! |
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| Star Gazer Join Date: Apr 2008
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| www.bouncingbearbotanicals.com they ar |