Woodlover '08 Too :) - Page 2

golly · 03-07-09, 00:15

Great lookin Pinz Myc..!
Temps must be rising thru the 50s ,right..?

Myc · 03-07-09, 20:19

Quote:

Originally Posted by golly

Great lookin Pinz Myc..!
Temps must be rising thru the 50s ,right..?

Yes indeed!
Low temp has been 36*F with rh of 58%
high temp has been 71*F with rh of 90%

The azures are currently cooling in the 'fridge to see if the temp drop induces pinning.

The ovoids are maturing much more rapidly than I expected.

waylitjim · 03-10-09, 12:53

Good job Myc
Way to be persistent!

Myc · 03-10-09, 19:59

Quote:

Originally Posted by waylitjim

Way to be persistent!

Thank you sir.
And no kidding.....when did I first ask you for woodlover advice?
Anyhow, It's been awhile with a great number of failures leading up to now.

Looks like the projects including grass are faring better than the simply cased projects.
I have two hypotheses:
One is that, since the grass experiments can simply be "doused" with a sprayer while watering, The grass regulates aeration and humidity levels perfectly at the casing layer level. This idea is partially Waylitjim's and due to the high number of mushrooms I've observed in lawns and other grassy areas after a rain.
Consequently, I am using captured rain water to mist all projects.

Second is that, I've been researching the relationship between fungi, bacteria, and plant life. A healthy microbial network promotes balance. The healthy microbes destroy invading and potentially threatening competitors - or at least regulate them to the benefit of the network.

If anyone is interested, I might cover the theory more in-depth in another thread but my experiemts are proving to be quite resistant to contamination since I've begun incorporating these "new" ideas learned from experiemtation.

Here are some update photos:

hyphaenation · 03-10-09, 20:08

Any pic updates Myc ? Not to rush of course. Just super curious.

Inquiring minds want to grow ...

P.S: I'm just joking around.

Myc · 03-11-09, 20:08

Here ya go!
The project with the best growth is planted with grass.

It should be noted that there are four tubs in all containing two distinct substrains I isolated from multi-spore through a series of many, many, transfers.
Each substrain was treated equally ~ one tub was given a casing layer and the other, a casing layer w/ grass.

One substrain, while a great performer on agar, is not such a robust producer. This is consistent in either tub but they appear quite poor in the 'casing only' tub.

The other, is very robust with prolific fruitbody formation. The caps have opened and veils tearing. While the 'casing only' tub is very robust, the fruitbodies are considerably smaller.

It should also be noted that I sowed grass on the two 'casing only' projects to see if future flushes support my ideas.

hyphaenation · 03-11-09, 20:12

Congrats bro. This will help many people in the future.

Thank you.

Myc · 03-12-09, 20:59

Here are some more update photos.
Many of the caps in the most advanced tub are beginning to change color. Most of the caps are open and I'm interested to see when sporulation begins.

Samicom · 03-12-09, 21:07

That first pic is very pretty, Myc

waylitjim · 03-12-09, 22:47

Way to go Myc.

Awesome pinset you got there!

hyphaenation · 03-12-09, 23:37

Quote:

Way to go Myc.

Awesome pinset you got there!

WLJ 09

There's a post to frame ...

eatyualive · 03-13-09, 10:35

awesome!

Mushrooms201 · 03-13-09, 11:00

thanks for sharing I cannot wait until I get to try growing wood lovers that aren't edibles.

joka · 03-14-09, 13:45

awesome setup never thought about grass helping with casing but it makes sense. hey myc would you be willing to let a print go? im currently working on cyans and would LOVE azures!

And one more thing you mentioned plant bacterial and fungal life what about introducing earth worms to help areate the soil? or would the just do dmg to the myc?

*self admitted noob*

ShinobiFeather · 03-14-09, 19:53

They look awesome coming up through that grass.

It reminds me of an easter egg hunt.

EXTRA fun!

kcmoxtractor · 03-15-09, 14:59

that was absolutely beautiful. the ovos are a species that needs more experimentation, bravo!

Myc · 03-15-09, 19:44

I am quite happy with the overall results of this experiment.
It gives me great hope for future experiments with other species.

I simply cannot stop marveling at the simple beauty and contrast between fungus and plant. Some fungal clusters had completely surrounded the neighboring blades of grass. The grass didn't seem to be suffering from this arrangement at all.
One drawback to this type of effort is that it is a very tedious process separating the grass from harvested fruitbodies. The casing layer is also completely destroyed by this process causing me to wonder if future flushes are going to occor or not.

hyphaenation · 03-15-09, 20:10

Simply amazing. You've got me wanting to poke around in my Ovids bed outside , but alas 6 inches of fresh snow.

To say this thread is inspiring is an understatement. You rock Myc. Thanks for sharing.

waylitjim · 03-17-09, 12:13

Quote:

Originally Posted by hyphaenation

To say this thread is inspiring is an understatement. You rock Myc.

For sure! I need to find some free time.

BennyBlanco · 03-17-09, 22:24

nice

Myc · 03-18-09, 14:53

Seemed to do pretty well after all.
Even the 'less robust' strain turned out a pretty good flush:

The tub without the companion grass had fewer fruitbodies but much larger specimens on average.

hyphaenation · 03-18-09, 15:06

Holy Kadoodle is that nice.

Amazing.

thatgreenthumb · 03-18-09, 15:16

Quote:

Originally Posted by Myc

Seemed to do pretty well after all.

pretty well?? that is incredible!

my jaw is bruised from hitting the floor haha
i am in awe

Do you know the harvest weight?

spacecake · 03-18-09, 15:17

Wow..that turned out great Myc !

myceliummatt · 03-18-09, 15:22

Absolutely incredible! Nice work Myc

Thanks for sharing the great information and beautiful pictures!

eatyualive · 03-18-09, 15:59

damn, if you were a woman id marry ya! lol excellent work. thats the sickest set of pics ive seen!

buteo · 03-18-09, 21:10

NICE!!!!

Hippie3 · 03-18-09, 21:11

archive material

candyflippin · 03-21-09, 19:26

WOW Very Very NICE!!!

arcamedes333 · 03-22-09, 01:32

very well done myc

Arabesque · 03-22-09, 12:37

I nominated one of your photos Myc for the month of March. I hope you win!

kcmoxtractor · 03-29-09, 12:34

wow, thats just breathtaking... you are pretty damn scientific with it also, this has been great to watch, let us know on yields

and keep up the good work

ps- any judgment on potency on ovos compared to azures or other woodlovers?

PsychoDrogue · 03-29-09, 20:33

very nice job dude. im anxious on how strong they are as well.

JohnDoe · 03-30-09, 06:10

Quote:

Originally Posted by Myc

Seemed to do pretty well after all.
Even the 'less robust' strain turned out a pretty good flush:
Attachment 120685 Attachment 120686

The tub without the companion grass had fewer fruitbodies but much larger specimens on average.
Attachment 120687 Attachment 120689

OMFG!!

you're the man

Myc · 03-30-09, 08:00

I would like to thank you all for the views and the kind comments.
Currently working on subsequent flushes to see if anything happens.
The myc is recovering nicely and future flushes look like a real possiblility.

Anyone wanting prints please keep an eye out for the April aution to benefit 'Topia.
Many of the prints are between 1 1/4" - 2" in diameter, are quite dark, and as clean as can be since they were raised in "outdoor" conditions. Handeled with gloves, printed in glovebox, packaged in a laminar flow airstream.

As for the potency of this strain.......

Certainly not the strongest I've ever done but definately a voyage worth taking!! Easily twice as strong as the average cubensis strain.
Very smooth, mellow, clean, bright, sparkly,
Induces uncontrolable giggles and laughter
Lasts about 8 hours.
Taste is not as foul as other Psilocybian species (according to some female psychonauts) - Blend fruitbodies up with some fruit juice coctail and you can't even taste them - just like drinking blue tropical punch!
Voyage was way different than that of any species that has been tested.
Regarding yields........let's just say that there were plenty to go around for everyone who wanted some.

Thanks for looking and will keep updating progress as it occurs.

M&M420 · 03-30-09, 10:26

How the hell did I miss this thread.Absolutely stunning what I've seen.Your my idol Myc

usagolden · 04-16-09, 16:42

inspirational

mushhut · 04-17-09, 00:56

WOW. Im I will be using this thread for taking notes as I will be starting some woodlovers soon. Awesome work and deff archive material.

Myc · 07-10-09, 10:44

The original idea for these cultures was to use them as "starting blocks" for outdoor beds.
So in the interest of completing the tek,
I include these final photos

An outdoor bed was prepared by selecting a location which has a year-around underground water supply.
The colony will have an adequate supply of moisture during any dry spells.
A shallow depression was dug into the earth about 6 inches deep.
The fully colonized tubs were inverted into this depression
And the solid 'cakes' of mycelium were birthed into their new home.
The blocks were covered with their favorite foodsource and left to live out their lives - and with a little luck......prosper and multiply.

Maybe we'll be adding a new Psilocybe to "Mushrooms of Colorado" soon.

kcmoxtractor · 07-17-09, 20:29

What did you find was the best colonization temps for the ovoids?
I have several cardboard clones and they are at around 70F, I was wondering if this was right or not...
Bump from the grave

Myc · 07-17-09, 23:11

They colonize fine in the 70*s F
But I have a neglected stem-butt cloning project that is colonizing just fine in the refrigerator.
Mid to low 70*s are ideal IME.

kcmoxtractor · 07-19-09, 01:06

Awesome, thanks for the help

Any tips for combating roly polys in outdoor beds?

waylitjim · 07-19-09, 03:51

Quote:

Originally Posted by Myc

Seemed to do pretty well after all.
Even the 'less robust' strain turned out a pretty good flush:
Attachment 120685 Attachment 120686

Myc, I can't believe I missed those photos!
Nicely done!

Good luck on the oudoor patch.

Elf Salvation · 07-19-09, 05:33

sweet grow

NCubensis · 09-19-09, 18:47

Quote:

Originally Posted by Myc

They colonize fine in the 70*s F
But I have a neglected stem-butt cloning project that is colonizing just fine in the refrigerator.
Mid to low 70*s are ideal IME.

Myc,

Did you fertilize the grass? If so with what?

Thanks

OG Royal Grower · 09-28-09, 01:11

wow sorry im late! thats amazing, great job!

copelandiaKidd · 10-30-09, 06:48

absolutely stunning!!!!!

Teonanacatl*38 · 10-30-09, 08:42

:eusa _droo

:eusa_dr oo

ethnobotanica · 11-20-09, 04:13

Bump!!!!!

Just when I thought woodlovers couldn't get prettier

Now if you will excuse me I need to go change my underwear. They are a bit sticky now

Excellent work Myc!!

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03-10-09, 12:53	#53 (permalink)
waylitjim A Mirror Image Join Date: Sep 1972 Posts: 4,232	Good job Myc Way to be persistent! __________________ *Waylit's Exotic Roundup - a collection of sexy threads*

03-10-09, 20:08	#55 (permalink)
hyphaenation Puck Teknician Join Date: Feb 2007 Posts: 5,646	Any pic updates Myc ? Not to rush of course. Just super curious. Inquiring minds want to grow ... P.S: I'm just joking around. __________________ We're just flying by the seed of our plants.

03-11-09, 20:08	#56 (permalink)
Myc El Jardinero Join Date: Apr 2007 Posts: 2,041	Here ya go! The project with the best growth is planted with grass. It should be noted that there are four tubs in all containing two distinct substrains I isolated from multi-spore through a series of many, many, transfers. Each substrain was treated equally ~ one tub was given a casing layer and the other, a casing layer w/ grass. One substrain, while a great performer on agar, is not such a robust producer. This is consistent in either tub but they appear quite poor in the 'casing only' tub. The other, is very robust with prolific fruitbody formation. The caps have opened and veils tearing. While the 'casing only' tub is very robust, the fruitbodies are considerably smaller. It should also be noted that I sowed grass on the two 'casing only' projects to see if future flushes support my ideas. Attached Thumbnails

03-11-09, 20:12	#57 (permalink)
hyphaenation Puck Teknician Join Date: Feb 2007 Posts: 5,646	Congrats bro. This will help many people in the future. Thank you. __________________ We're just flying by the seed of our plants.

03-07-09, 00:15	#51 (permalink)
golly modapotato Join Date: Oct 2005 Posts: 6,198	Great lookin Pinz Myc..! Temps must be rising thru the 50s ,right..?

03-12-09, 20:59	#58 (permalink)
Myc El Jardinero Join Date: Apr 2007 Posts: 2,041	Here are some more update photos. Many of the caps in the most advanced tub are beginning to change color. Most of the caps are open and I'm interested to see when sporulation begins. Attached Thumbnails

03-12-09, 21:07	#59 (permalink)
Samicom Mycophiliac Join Date: Feb 2009 Posts: 11	That first pic is very pretty, Myc

03-12-09, 22:47	#60 (permalink)
waylitjim A Mirror Image Join Date: Sep 1972 Posts: 4,232	Way to go Myc. Awesome pinset you got there! __________________ *Waylit's Exotic Roundup - a collection of sexy threads*

03-13-09, 10:35	#62 (permalink)
eatyualive ExoCannibalist Join Date: Jan 2006 Posts: 5,064	awesome! __________________ Click for Eat's Reference

03-13-09, 11:00	#63 (permalink)
Mushrooms201 Mycotopiate Join Date: Mar 2009 Posts: 541	sweet thanks for sharing I cannot wait until I get to try growing wood lovers that aren't edibles.

03-14-09, 13:45	#64 (permalink)
joka The Shrooms are moving... Join Date: Mar 2009 Posts: 53	awesome setup never thought about grass helping with casing but it makes sense. hey myc would you be willing to let a print go? im currently working on cyans and would LOVE azures! And one more thing you mentioned plant bacterial and fungal life what about introducing earth worms to help areate the soil? or would the just do dmg to the myc? self admitted noob __________________ SWIM"S current gro- b+ on popcorn

03-14-09, 19:53	#65 (permalink)
ShinobiFeather Mycotopiate Join Date: Jul 2008 Posts: 245	They look awesome coming up through that grass. It reminds me of an easter egg hunt. EXTRA fun!

03-15-09, 14:59	#66 (permalink)
kcmoxtractor Satan's Helper Join Date: Jun 2008 Posts: 1,349	that was absolutely beautiful. the ovos are a species that needs more experimentation, bravo!

03-15-09, 19:44	#67 (permalink)
Myc El Jardinero Join Date: Apr 2007 Posts: 2,041	I am quite happy with the overall results of this experiment. It gives me great hope for future experiments with other species. I simply cannot stop marveling at the simple beauty and contrast between fungus and plant. Some fungal clusters had completely surrounded the neighboring blades of grass. The grass didn't seem to be suffering from this arrangement at all. One drawback to this type of effort is that it is a very tedious process separating the grass from harvested fruitbodies. The casing layer is also completely destroyed by this process causing me to wonder if future flushes are going to occor or not. Attached Thumbnails

03-18-09, 15:17	#74 (permalink)
spacecake Universal Mod Join Date: May 1972 Posts: 4,734	Wow..that turned out great Myc ! __________________ "As a child, i could walk on the ceiling. I'd butterfly up on the walls"

03-15-09, 20:10	#68 (permalink)
hyphaenation Puck Teknician Join Date: Feb 2007 Posts: 5,646	Simply amazing. You've got me wanting to poke around in my Ovids bed outside , but alas 6 inches of fresh snow. To say this thread is inspiring is an understatement. You rock Myc. Thanks for sharing. __________________ We're just flying by the seed of our plants.

03-17-09, 22:24	#70 (permalink)
BennyBlanco Mycotopiate Join Date: Oct 2005 Posts: 393	nice

03-18-09, 14:53	#71 (permalink)
Myc El Jardinero Join Date: Apr 2007 Posts: 2,041	Tubs without grass Seemed to do pretty well after all. Even the 'less robust' strain turned out a pretty good flush: The tub without the companion grass had fewer fruitbodies but much larger specimens on average. Attached Thumbnails

03-18-09, 15:06	#72 (permalink)
hyphaenation Puck Teknician Join Date: Feb 2007 Posts: 5,646	Holy Kadoodle is that nice. Amazing. __________________ We're just flying by the seed of our plants.

03-18-09, 15:22	#75 (permalink)
myceliummatt Mycophiliac Join Date: Apr 2008 Posts: 92	Absolutely incredible! Nice work Myc Thanks for sharing the great information and beautiful pictures!

03-18-09, 15:59	#76 (permalink)
eatyualive ExoCannibalist Join Date: Jan 2006 Posts: 5,064	damn, if you were a woman id marry ya! lol excellent work. thats the sickest set of pics ive seen! __________________ Click for Eat's Reference

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03-21-09, 19:26	#79 (permalink)
candyflippin Mycophiliac Join Date: Jan 2009 Posts: 50	WOW Very Very NICE!!!

03-22-09, 01:32	#80 (permalink)
arcamedes333 shroomarama Join Date: Nov 2008 Posts: 102	very well done myc

03-22-09, 12:37	#81 (permalink)
Arabesque Pimposaurus-Rex Join Date: Feb 2009 Posts: 102	I nominated one of your photos Myc for the month of March. I hope you win! Attached Thumbnails Last edited by Arabesque; 03-22-09 at 12:38. Reason: OCD about capitals.

03-29-09, 12:34	#82 (permalink)
kcmoxtractor Satan's Helper Join Date: Jun 2008 Posts: 1,349	sexy sexy sexy wow, thats just breathtaking... you are pretty damn scientific with it also, this has been great to watch, let us know on yields and keep up the good work ps- any judgment on potency on ovos compared to azures or other woodlovers?

03-29-09, 20:33	#83 (permalink)
PsychoDrogue Mycotopiate Join Date: Dec 2006 Posts: 1,361	very nice job dude. im anxious on how strong they are as well.

03-30-09, 08:00	#85 (permalink)
Myc El Jardinero Join Date: Apr 2007 Posts: 2,041	I would like to thank you all for the views and the kind comments. Currently working on subsequent flushes to see if anything happens. The myc is recovering nicely and future flushes look like a real possiblility. Anyone wanting prints please keep an eye out for the April aution to benefit 'Topia. Many of the prints are between 1 1/4" - 2" in diameter, are quite dark, and as clean as can be since they were raised in "outdoor" conditions. Handeled with gloves, printed in glovebox, packaged in a laminar flow airstream. As for the potency of this strain....... Certainly not the strongest I've ever done but definately a voyage worth taking!! Easily twice as strong as the average cubensis strain. Very smooth, mellow, clean, bright, sparkly, Induces uncontrolable giggles and laughter Lasts about 8 hours. Taste is not as foul as other Psilocybian species (according to some female psychonauts) - Blend fruitbodies up with some fruit juice coctail and you can't even taste them - just like drinking blue tropical punch! Voyage was way different than that of any species that has been tested. Regarding yields........let's just say that there were plenty to go around for everyone who wanted some. Thanks for looking and will keep updating progress as it occurs.

03-30-09, 10:26	#86 (permalink)
M&M420 Voyager Join Date: Jun 2008 Posts: 1,455	How the hell did I miss this thread.Absolutely stunning what I've seen.Your my idol Myc

04-16-09, 16:42	#87 (permalink)
usagolden A Tin Can Banana Join Date: May 2008 Posts: 324	inspirational

04-17-09, 00:56	#88 (permalink)
mushhut Mycotopiate Join Date: May 2008 Posts: 875	WOW. Im I will be using this thread for taking notes as I will be starting some woodlovers soon. Awesome work and deff archive material.

07-10-09, 10:44	#89 (permalink)
Myc El Jardinero Join Date: Apr 2007 Posts: 2,041	Home Sweet Home The original idea for these cultures was to use them as "starting blocks" for outdoor beds. So in the interest of completing the tek, I include these final photos An outdoor bed was prepared by selecting a location which has a year-around underground water supply. The colony will have an adequate supply of moisture during any dry spells. A shallow depression was dug into the earth about 6 inches deep. The fully colonized tubs were inverted into this depression And the solid 'cakes' of mycelium were birthed into their new home. The blocks were covered with their favorite foodsource and left to live out their lives - and with a little luck......prosper and multiply. Maybe we'll be adding a new Psilocybe to "Mushrooms of Colorado" soon. Attached Thumbnails __________________ "...we'd like to help you learn to help yourself..."

07-17-09, 20:29	#90 (permalink)
kcmoxtractor Satan's Helper Join Date: Jun 2008 Posts: 1,349	What did you find was the best colonization temps for the ovoids? I have several cardboard clones and they are at around 70F, I was wondering if this was right or not... Bump from the grave __________________ "It was the straying that found the path direct" - Austin Osman Spare

07-17-09, 23:11	#91 (permalink)
Myc El Jardinero Join Date: Apr 2007 Posts: 2,041	They colonize fine in the 70s F But I have a neglected stem-butt cloning project that is colonizing just fine in the refrigerator. Mid to low 70s are ideal IME. __________________ "...we'd like to help you learn to help yourself..."