Pan "sandoze" Growlog - Page 2

M&M420 · 06-28-09, 16:38

Wow space this is a true inspiration

.I've got this exact strain on the way and can't wait to start working with it.I'm thinking of building a replica of your chamber to use as well except I may throw a tropic air or two in because it'll be considerably bigger.Nice work man and keep it coming.I've only glanced over it so far so I'm about to go back through it now.Might have a few questions for ya if you don't mind.Thanks for sharing

spacecake · 06-28-09, 16:49

Be sure to post some pics M&M....I love to see it..!

spacecake · 06-29-09, 13:12

Harvested the two "substrate jar" trays...

Got a nice 100 grams wet total...not bad....!
Here is a pictures just before I harvested the trays.

M&M420 · 06-29-09, 14:28

Now that's a nice flush.Definitely a beautiful grow.Normally how many flushes do you get from pans?

spacecake · 06-29-09, 14:56

I don't really know,I think as many as with Cubies.
But I do not go beyond flush two myself,because only of few shrooms popup with later flushes,and I don't think that it is worth the time.

But that counts for Cubies too imo.

Sometimes,there aren't really any flushes,it just popups a couple of shrooms everyday or so.
And can keep doing this for days/weeks.

Btw. I harvested the other two trays...total of 60 grams wet.
A pretty good harvest,just in time for my vacation !

plantman21 · 06-29-09, 15:57

This is probably a stupid question but....Do the pans still bruse blue?
Plantman

the_chosen_one · 06-29-09, 18:07

Quote:

Originally Posted by Foster

I was under the impression that a member here (sandoz) found this wild in florida.
I remember seeing several of his posts, but am not sure what the exact details were of his process/isolation.
I think Workman was supplied with a sample or print and made the ID . Not positive on that, or if either isolated or attempted to stabilize a productive version.
Maybe someone who knows for sure will chime in.

yes, originally from the wild in Florida. sandoze went under a different nym at the time, but began major releases as sandoze. thus the name. quite a bit of effort was put into this var. turned out very nice imo. of course spacecake makes 'em look even better.

oh yes, they blue. it can be harder to see or a slightly different color because of the natural pigment of the mushroom.. but they do indeed

spacecake · 06-30-09, 15:38

Dr.Hallucination. · 06-30-09, 15:51

Very Nice Work spacecake

Om shanti · 06-30-09, 18:31

VEry nice flushes, Spacecake! So it looks like your new grow room got an A in the Pan exam as well!

I think that the current heatwave will give you a fast and good second flush too! BTW, are the Sandose cambodgiensis a bit fatter than 'straight' cambodgiensis. Or is it just yours that are fat? :-)

ASheS · 06-30-09, 19:04

Youuuu are sooooo beautifull .... to me

buut not for you! good job!
thx, for the pics

spacecake · 06-30-09, 19:11

Yep,the Pans sure like the new growroom.
And the heatwave sure helps...,I think the temperature at my attic does rise as far as 30oC or maybe more.

Your right about the size of this substrain...they can get rather big.
Shrooms up to 2-6 grams each,with stems so tick,you can easily take away the skin to take inner samples for clones.
But if conditions are not good,they stay very smal and pale ,like in the first pictures on page 1.

spacecake · 07-02-09, 15:55

Update....

Harvested the second flush...
There wasn't any waiting time between the two flushes.
It started right again after I gave the two trays an 8 hour dunk.

The tray that had the best 1 st flush now had the smallest.

Total weight of the 4 trays +- 90 grams wet.
So this makes flush1+2 a total of 250 grams (25 doses)

Om shanti · 07-02-09, 16:40

Very nice!

BTW, which is your favorite Pan to grow, if you have a favorite?

spacecake · 07-02-09, 16:56

This one, Sandoze...

Big shrooms,nice flushes,very clean and spiritual.
All in all just aboud the perfect strain/specie.

I think some Pans are more visual,but also feel a little 'darker' or just not have that spiritual feeling I get from these ones.

Om shanti · 07-03-09, 15:10

Quote:

Originally Posted by spacecake

Big shrooms,nice flushes,very clean and spiritual.
All in all just aboud the perfect strain/specie.

With that big recommendation I guess I will have to try the Sandoze some time.. ;-)

P4ulada · 08-03-09, 18:49

Quote:

Originally Posted by spacecake

Thanks everyone,for the heads up...

I've got some heavy overlay,so as a little experiment,I gave one tray an extra casing layer,will see how that works out.
...

Hey spacecake,
How did you cause the overlay?
Was with intend to?
I´m affraid about overlay now =/ hehe

By the way...you´re my hero man, I love Pans, and I´ll try the Sandoze strain next month ^^
I hope my growlog be a sucessful like your.

spacecake · 08-03-09, 19:08

Thanks P4ulada...

My intension was, to compare the grow of a fresh print VS an old print.
The result was that the tray of the fresh print got overlayed.
This was only a one time experiment,so not really science...

If your afraid of overlay,then just remember to not use any nutriance in the casing layer,I do it here,but not always with great succes.
(The well known cactus mix works very well,nutriance low)

After this experiment I stopped using compost in my casing layers(with Pan grows) and got better flushes.
But long before this..some time ago I began to ad compost to the casing layer,because I got better results doing this...
Now I know a little bit better when to use it and when not to.

But the Pans still hold alot of secrets,and I'm still far way from getting the good flushes over and over again.
But I think the more we all post our results and failures,the more we can experiment and come to a good(or best) way to grow Pans.(like we do with cubies).

P4ulada · 08-04-09, 13:23

Quote:

Originally Posted by spacecake

Thanks P4ulada...

If your afraid of overlay,then just remember to not use any nutriance in the casing layer,I do it here,but not always with great succes.
(The well known cactus mix works very well,nutriance low)

But the Pans still hold alot of secrets,and I'm still far way from getting the good flushes over and over again.
But I think the more we all post our results and failures,the more we can experiment and come to a good(or best) way to grow Pans.(like we do with cubies).

Hum...understood =]
I think the cactus mix works better, I´ll mix it to vermiculit and coir, thus it´ll be a lot more less nutritive, besides...vermiculite gives a good aeration and "water reserve" (rez-effect).
I think it´s good because I read a lot of growlogs (of Brazil growers) wich the argument of failure was: the Pan´s mycelium is more fragile than the cubensis mycelium, so when the cake of pans was crumbled and cased, the fragile mycelium did not recover himself (sic, gramatical error? sorry =/).
And about the secrets...we go discovering reading our growlogs and doing good experiences like your

Now, I´m not afraid hehe

rocketman · 08-04-09, 13:53

archive material

lysergic · 08-04-09, 15:22

Great thread!
Inspiring!

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06-28-09, 16:49	#52 (permalink)
spacecake Universal Mod Join Date: May 1972 Posts: 4,734	Be sure to post some pics M&M....I love to see it..! __________________ "As a child, i could walk on the ceiling. I'd butterfly up on the walls"

06-29-09, 13:12	#53 (permalink)
spacecake Universal Mod Join Date: May 1972 Posts: 4,734	Harvested the two "substrate jar" trays... Got a nice 100 grams wet total...not bad....! Here is a pictures just before I harvested the trays. Attached Thumbnails __________________ "As a child, i could walk on the ceiling. I'd butterfly up on the walls"

06-29-09, 14:56	#55 (permalink)
spacecake Universal Mod Join Date: May 1972 Posts: 4,734	I don't really know,I think as many as with Cubies. But I do not go beyond flush two myself,because only of few shrooms popup with later flushes,and I don't think that it is worth the time. But that counts for Cubies too imo. Sometimes,there aren't really any flushes,it just popups a couple of shrooms everyday or so. And can keep doing this for days/weeks. Btw. I harvested the other two trays...total of 60 grams wet. A pretty good harvest,just in time for my vacation ! __________________ "As a child, i could walk on the ceiling. I'd butterfly up on the walls"

06-30-09, 15:38	#58 (permalink)
spacecake Universal Mod Join Date: May 1972 Posts: 4,734	__________________ "As a child, i could walk on the ceiling. I'd butterfly up on the walls"

06-28-09, 16:38	#51 (permalink)
M&M420 Voyager Join Date: Jun 2008 Posts: 1,455	Wow space this is a true inspiration .I've got this exact strain on the way and can't wait to start working with it.I'm thinking of building a replica of your chamber to use as well except I may throw a tropic air or two in because it'll be considerably bigger.Nice work man and keep it coming.I've only glanced over it so far so I'm about to go back through it now.Might have a few questions for ya if you don't mind.Thanks for sharing

06-29-09, 14:28	#54 (permalink)
M&M420 Voyager Join Date: Jun 2008 Posts: 1,455	Now that's a nice flush.Definitely a beautiful grow.Normally how many flushes do you get from pans?

06-29-09, 15:57	#56 (permalink)
plantman21 Mycotopiate Join Date: Mar 2009 Posts: 384	This is probably a stupid question but....Do the pans still bruse blue? Plantman

06-30-09, 15:51	#59 (permalink)
Dr.Hallucination. Chasing the Rabbit. Join Date: Jan 2007 Posts: 1,826	Very Nice Work spacecake __________________ The man who walk's through the door on the wall,Will never be quite the same,As the man who went out.

06-30-09, 18:31	#60 (permalink)
Om shanti S.W.I.M. in H.POO Join Date: Jan 2008 Posts: 1,300	VEry nice flushes, Spacecake! So it looks like your new grow room got an A in the Pan exam as well! I think that the current heatwave will give you a fast and good second flush too! BTW, are the Sandose cambodgiensis a bit fatter than 'straight' cambodgiensis. Or is it just yours that are fat? :-) __________________ The most important thing is to find out what is the most important thing.-S. Suzuki

06-30-09, 19:04	#61 (permalink)
ASheS Mycophiliac Join Date: Jul 2008 Posts: 25	Youuuu are sooooo beautifull .... to me buut not for you! good job! thx, for the pics

06-30-09, 19:11	#62 (permalink)
spacecake Universal Mod Join Date: May 1972 Posts: 4,734	Yep,the Pans sure like the new growroom. And the heatwave sure helps...,I think the temperature at my attic does rise as far as 30oC or maybe more. Your right about the size of this substrain...they can get rather big. Shrooms up to 2-6 grams each,with stems so tick,you can easily take away the skin to take inner samples for clones. But if conditions are not good,they stay very smal and pale ,like in the first pictures on page 1. __________________ "As a child, i could walk on the ceiling. I'd butterfly up on the walls"

07-02-09, 15:55	#63 (permalink)
spacecake Universal Mod Join Date: May 1972 Posts: 4,734	Update.... Harvested the second flush... There wasn't any waiting time between the two flushes. It started right again after I gave the two trays an 8 hour dunk. The tray that had the best 1 st flush now had the smallest. Total weight of the 4 trays +- 90 grams wet. So this makes flush1+2 a total of 250 grams (25 doses) Attached Thumbnails __________________ "As a child, i could walk on the ceiling. I'd butterfly up on the walls"

07-02-09, 16:40	#64 (permalink)
Om shanti S.W.I.M. in H.POO Join Date: Jan 2008 Posts: 1,300	Very nice! BTW, which is your favorite Pan to grow, if you have a favorite? __________________ The most important thing is to find out what is the most important thing.-S. Suzuki

07-02-09, 16:56	#65 (permalink)
spacecake Universal Mod Join Date: May 1972 Posts: 4,734	This one, Sandoze... Big shrooms,nice flushes,very clean and spiritual. All in all just aboud the perfect strain/specie. I think some Pans are more visual,but also feel a little 'darker' or just not have that spiritual feeling I get from these ones. __________________ "As a child, i could walk on the ceiling. I'd butterfly up on the walls"

08-04-09, 13:53	#70 (permalink)
rocketman GATE KEEPER Join Date: Feb 1971 Posts: 4,537	archive material __________________ robbing a man of his cherished delusions does not make you any wealthier, it just makes him poorer. H3

08-04-09, 15:22	#71 (permalink)
lysergic Down on the Pharm Join Date: Dec 2006 Posts: 1,961	Great thread! Inspiring! __________________ Lefty: They should ban idiots not drugs

08-03-09, 19:08	#68 (permalink)
spacecake Universal Mod Join Date: May 1972 Posts: 4,734	Thanks P4ulada... My intension was, to compare the grow of a fresh print VS an old print. The result was that the tray of the fresh print got overlayed. This was only a one time experiment,so not really science... If your afraid of overlay,then just remember to not use any nutriance in the casing layer,I do it here,but not always with great succes. (The well known cactus mix works very well,nutriance low) After this experiment I stopped using compost in my casing layers(with Pan grows) and got better flushes. But long before this..some time ago I began to ad compost to the casing layer,because I got better results doing this... Now I know a little bit better when to use it and when not to. But the Pans still hold alot of secrets,and I'm still far way from getting the good flushes over and over again. But I think the more we all post our results and failures,the more we can experiment and come to a good(or best) way to grow Pans.(like we do with cubies). __________________ "As a child, i could walk on the ceiling. I'd butterfly up on the walls"

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