Chuck Liddell???

seymorebunz · 09-23-07, 12:42

What the hell happened to the iceman??? 0-2 last two fights.

09-23-07, 13:22

saw his fight today..
probably getting old..

i.p.freely · 09-23-07, 14:10

i havn't seen that fight yet...thanks alot...but this is terrible news indeed...the man, as u know, is my hero...

i.p.freely · 09-23-07, 14:23

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Originally Posted by vinz

saw his fight today..
probably getting old..

don't say it vinz...i hope not...ol randy is still kickin ass

python · 09-23-07, 14:31

can't win them all ---especially in that sport!

seymorebunz · 09-23-07, 14:45

My Bad

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Originally Posted by i.p.freely

i havn't seen that fight yet...thanks alot...but this is terrible news indeed...the man, as u know, is my hero...

claykrys · 09-23-07, 14:59

Who is the fighter dating Jenna Jameson?

greenweanie · 09-23-07, 15:27

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Originally Posted by claykrys

Who is the fighter dating Jenna Jameson?

tito

claykrys · 09-23-07, 17:22

Tito is my new hero even though I was hoping Shamrock would beat him..

floppypeter · 09-23-07, 19:57

Jardine is a bad ass

a striker with a leg kick and a demon on the ground

Lidell is mostly a striker, probably the best at one time, if you dont get KTFO before he gets gassed you'll be OK. Lidell is not Technical, no kicks.

I fight/train amatuer MMA so I have lots of opinions, heh....

claykrys · 09-23-07, 20:01

So If I met you in real life, it wouldnt be a good idea to call you floppypeter

bluefungis182 · 09-23-07, 20:08

floppypeter · 09-23-07, 20:13

LOL !!!

You can call me anything !!!

I like to think I have a thick skin, lasid back and all.

MMA is a sport, a competition.

I would never use force or threat to solve a verbal conflict.

the jesus · 09-23-07, 20:14

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Originally Posted by seymorebunz

What the hell happened to the iceman???

In the words of my boy smokey, he got "knocked tha fuck out!!!".

claykrys · 09-23-07, 20:24

A few years back I met Evan Tanner. Hung out with him and some other friends a few times. He was training at the time so he didnt drink. When we would go to a bar there was always someone trying to hit on his hot girlfriend. The first time it happened I was thinking oh shit this guy is going to get fucked up. Tanner would just laugh it off and by the guy a drink or something. I thought it was pretty cool. A guy that was well known for fighting who would have every reason to fight and he would try to make friends instead. Guess he didnt feel like he needed to prove anything to anyone outside the ring.

floppypeter · 09-23-07, 21:24

That sentiment is true of most MMA fighters and martial artists I have had the pleasure to have known.

There are a million and one reasons to never ever get in to a bar/street fight.

We learn to be experts at fighting so we never have to throw a punch.

CoyoteMesc · 09-24-07, 15:28

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Originally Posted by python

can't win them all ---especially in that sport!

Lazlo · 09-24-07, 15:35

Unless you're Rickson Gracie.

Beastmaster · 09-24-07, 15:48

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A guy that was well known for fighting who would have every reason to fight and he would try to make friends instead. Guess he didnt feel like he needed to prove anything to anyone outside the ring.

Self defense is difficult to claim as a reason for beating the snot out of someone, when you are a trained fighter. Especially when that someone is a drunk loser at a bar who had too much to drink and got his liquid courage up.

Also, after throwing yourself and everything you've got at other MMA fighters, it can be really easy to put someone in the hospital without even meaning to. Then what? I've btdt, and though it felt kinda satisfying at the moment, later, when the realization of what I had done sank in, it wasn't so satisfying. Worrying about the legal ramifications of 'is he going to press charges?" "am I going to get sued/arrested?" become very real concerns at that point.

And believe me, once a drunk fuck nut realizes who he picked a fight with, he doesn't really fight in the brawl he just caused, but he'll fight back with lawyers and police for sure.

dice4717 · 09-24-07, 15:48

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Originally Posted by floppypeter

Lidell is mostly a striker, probably the best at one time, if you dont get KTFO before he gets gassed you'll be OK. Lidell is not Technical, no kicks.

Let me say i am by no means a mma fighter but i do know chuck wrestled almost all his life in high school so he is ok on the ground, however he is not a black belt in jujitsu i understand that but he def has skills on the ground and he also was in kempo witch i believe is a form of kick boxing, which chuck has fought in k1, pride, ufc, and many other compotition style fighting, he also knocked out rampage in pride fighting for sure. I have not seen the fight yet i was at a buddys right before the fight but had to leave. he is not training like he should being he is getting older he should train more study more who hes going to fight and train train train seven days a week no more drinking and smoking. Then we will c how chuck is. That is my opinion.

i.p.freely · 09-24-07, 16:03

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Originally Posted by floppypeter

LOL !!!

You can call me anything !!!

I like to think I have a thick skin, lasid back and all.

MMA is a sport, a competition.

I would never use force or threat to solve a verbal conflict.

and such is the only attitude one with such skills should have...kudos floppy...kudos

i.p.freely · 09-24-07, 16:29

u must have great insurance for such a sport...i have been thinking about getting into some jiu jitsu (sorry if spelled incorrectly) but after the recent bout with my broken leg...i don't know if that is going to be in my future...i hope so...i have a great respect for any martial art...

bill_cooper · 09-25-07, 03:08

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Originally Posted by dice4717

he also knocked out rampage in pride fighting for sure.

I dont think this is correct
anyway
I really enjoy mma bouts
after a missed opportunity in the 1st round
Chuck seemed to have no answer for Jardines style
76 was a really good card
even though Rua looked lethargic

5thHorsemen · 09-25-07, 07:54

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Originally Posted by floppypeter

Jardine is a bad ass

a striker with a leg kick and a demon on the ground

Lidell is mostly a striker, probably the best at one time, if you dont get KTFO before he gets gassed you'll be OK. Lidell is not Technical, no kicks.

I fight/train amatuer MMA so I have lots of opinions, heh....

Let me help you out with the facts. Chuck is a KICKBOXER with a background in kempo (witch is a form of karate) and wrestling. Chuck is also purple belt in BJJ. He's a very technical fighter and has knockout kicks, if you dont belive me just ask Renato Sobral or Steve Heath

5thHorsemen · 09-25-07, 08:02

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Originally Posted by dice4717

Let me say i am by no means a mma fighter but i do know chuck wrestled almost all his life in high school so he is ok on the ground, however he is not a black belt in jujitsu i understand that but he def has skills on the ground and he also was in kempo witch i believe is a form of kick boxing, which chuck has fought in k1, pride, ufc, and many other compotition style fighting, he also knocked out rampage in pride fighting for sure. I have not seen the fight yet i was at a buddys right before the fight but had to leave. he is not training like he should being he is getting older he should train more study more who hes going to fight and train train train seven days a week no more drinking and smoking. Then we will c how chuck is. That is my opinion.

Let me help you out with the facts. Chuck is a kickboxer with a background in kempo (witch is a form of karate) and wrestling. Chuck is also purple belt in BJJ. Chuck has never fought in K1.He also lost to Rampage in Pride 2003 by his corner throwing in the towel after getting tooled. It will be a while before Chuck gets a title shot. Not only has he lost twice to the champ, he will have to fight up threw the ranks to get that chance.

dice4717 · 09-25-07, 09:25

If you guys say so, i must be wrong i was almost positive ive seen him in a fight where he ko rampage i must be wrong if so Im sorry, and yes id agree it will be a while before he gets his chance again, if he gets that chance again, or even if he wants it.

eatyualive · 09-25-07, 09:25

Well Chuck is so one dimensional of a fighter everyone knows what he is going to do. Try to knock you out. If a guy happens to be a decent striker and can hang, then you know what lidells trying to do. Jardine came in with the perfect game plan. He would kick and throw a few strikes and back off. Usually Chuck is a counter puncher and he feeds off of opponents that engage him. Jardine engaged a little but but just enough to get a few shots in and get away. I thought he did great! Excellent fight!

Chuck is still great he has alot left in his tank. The guy can win at anytime. He was just exposed for his lack of mixing it up. Also, Rampage really destroyed Chuck the first fight. He seriously elbowed him in the ribs and bullied lidell until lidell verbally tapped. Real sad day for Chuck. Dana white was watching also!

Now that division is all screwed up. Jackson lost to vandy and shogun, but beat lidell and took his title. Now griffin was beat by jardine and tooled shogun. Who fights Page next? Really hard to tell unless we see ufc give some of these fights that I would love to see.

Mix up any of these guys to fight and figure this division out:

I think Tito and Lidell can beat shogun easily. If Jackson learned the clinch then I favor him winning now. I think he has progressed as a fighter from the last time these guys fought. Not to mention I don't even believe he was training full time when he fought either of them.
Chuck Liddel
Tito Ortiz
Shogun
Vandy
Griffin
Jardine
Alexander
Evans

PUt all those fights together minus any rematches and we have a clear idea of whos at the top. I would love to see Griffin vs Vandy, Griffin vs Lidell, Griffin vs Evans, Griffin vs Alexander. Alexander vs Lidell, Alexander vs Shogun or Vandy, Ortiz vs Alexander. I think first off they should throw Alexander at Vandy and give this as his warmup fight. But I know Vandy wants Griffin. However, I think Griffin will beat Vandy even worse. Shogun is much more precise of a striker and he actually tears up Vandy himself. The worst part is his loopy sloppy punches. Griffin has a chin and throws inside straight punches very precise. When people come in at him with loopy punches he always gets the better of it. Watch his last few fights. Even the Jardine fight. Jardine has that weird style where he can beat anyone at any time. And hes tough as nails. Alexander, has crazy power but I dont' know how he would do against a grappler. Never seen him make it past a minute....

I think Vandy and Lidell also need to fight before they both go down hill. It would make sense bc they have both been fighting forever. Not to mention even on some of the same events in brazillian vale tudo fights.

Lazlo · 09-25-07, 09:45

No doubt. In the Pride fight, Rampage beat the holly hell out of him.

Youtube has the Pride bought.

Lazlo · 09-25-07, 09:58

I think Chuck's next fight is against Wanderlei Silva from what i've heard. Maybe Jardine will have that fight now that he's beaten Chuck. Not sure.

Regardless, either of those 2 got their work cut out for them, because Silva is a bad sumbitch!

09-25-07, 10:00

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Originally Posted by Lazlo

No doubt. In the Pride fight, Rampage beat the holly hell out of him.

Youtube has the Pride bought.

cant find it man! the one i found said its gone coz of copyright.. boo

garrettee · 09-25-07, 10:29

Jardine gets to fight Silva. I've always loved Chuck, but I guess he has had his run.

i.p.freely · 09-25-07, 14:12

chuck will be back on top...he just needs to quit fuckin around and train harder

Lazlo · 09-26-07, 10:26

I hate to say it, but I wouldn't hold my breath.

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09-23-07, 14:10	#3 (permalink)
i.p.freely chronic puppy diddler Join Date: Apr 2007 Posts: 705	thanks bro i havn't seen that fight yet...thanks alot...but this is terrible news indeed...the man, as u know, is my hero... __________________ "I hate to advocate drugs, alcohol, violence, or insanity to anyone, but they've always worked for me." Dr. H.S.T.

09-23-07, 14:59	#7 (permalink)
claykrys Mycostudent Join Date: Aug 2006 Posts: 497	Who is the fighter dating Jenna Jameson? __________________

09-23-07, 17:22	#9 (permalink)
claykrys Mycostudent Join Date: Aug 2006 Posts: 497	Tito is my new hero even though I was hoping Shamrock would beat him.. __________________

09-23-07, 19:57	#10 (permalink)
floppypeter tra la la Join Date: Jan 2007 Posts: 938	Jardine is a bad ass a striker with a leg kick and a demon on the ground Lidell is mostly a striker, probably the best at one time, if you dont get KTFO before he gets gassed you'll be OK. Lidell is not Technical, no kicks. I fight/train amatuer MMA so I have lots of opinions, heh.... __________________ WE FUNK RADIO

09-23-07, 13:22	#2 (permalink)
~vinz Guest Posts: n/a	saw his fight today.. probably getting old..

09-23-07, 14:31	#5 (permalink)
python Virtuoso Join Date: Apr 1973 Posts: 2,652	can't win them all ---especially in that sport!

09-23-07, 20:01	#11 (permalink)
claykrys Mycostudent Join Date: Aug 2006 Posts: 497	So If I met you in real life, it wouldnt be a good idea to call you floppypeter __________________

09-23-07, 20:08	#12 (permalink)
bluefungis182 Mycophage Join Date: Nov 2006 Posts: 129	lol

09-23-07, 20:13	#13 (permalink)
floppypeter tra la la Join Date: Jan 2007 Posts: 938	LOL !!! You can call me anything !!! I like to think I have a thick skin, lasid back and all. MMA is a sport, a competition. I would never use force or threat to solve a verbal conflict. __________________ WE FUNK RADIO

09-23-07, 20:24	#15 (permalink)
claykrys Mycostudent Join Date: Aug 2006 Posts: 497	A few years back I met Evan Tanner. Hung out with him and some other friends a few times. He was training at the time so he didnt drink. When we would go to a bar there was always someone trying to hit on his hot girlfriend. The first time it happened I was thinking oh shit this guy is going to get fucked up. Tanner would just laugh it off and by the guy a drink or something. I thought it was pretty cool. A guy that was well known for fighting who would have every reason to fight and he would try to make friends instead. Guess he didnt feel like he needed to prove anything to anyone outside the ring. __________________

09-23-07, 21:24	#16 (permalink)
floppypeter tra la la Join Date: Jan 2007 Posts: 938	That sentiment is true of most MMA fighters and martial artists I have had the pleasure to have known. There are a million and one reasons to never ever get in to a bar/street fight. We learn to be experts at fighting so we never have to throw a punch. __________________ WE FUNK RADIO

09-24-07, 15:35	#18 (permalink)
Lazlo old hand Join Date: Mar 1970 Posts: 7,034	Unless you're Rickson Gracie. __________________ How can you have any pudding, if you don't eat your MEAT?

09-24-07, 16:29	#22 (permalink)
i.p.freely chronic puppy diddler Join Date: Apr 2007 Posts: 705	hey floppy... u must have great insurance for such a sport...i have been thinking about getting into some jiu jitsu (sorry if spelled incorrectly) but after the recent bout with my broken leg...i don't know if that is going to be in my future...i hope so...i have a great respect for any martial art... __________________ "I hate to advocate drugs, alcohol, violence, or insanity to anyone, but they've always worked for me." Dr. H.S.T.

09-25-07, 09:25	#26 (permalink)
dice4717 Just a Stoner Join Date: Aug 2007 Posts: 879	If you guys say so, i must be wrong i was almost positive ive seen him in a fight where he ko rampage i must be wrong if so Im sorry, and yes id agree it will be a while before he gets his chance again, if he gets that chance again, or even if he wants it. __________________ Id like to live beneath the dirt, a tiny space to move and breath is all that i would ever need.(Phish)

09-25-07, 09:25	#27 (permalink)
eatyualive LookIntoYourMind Join Date: Jan 2006 Posts: 2,710	Well Chuck is so one dimensional of a fighter everyone knows what he is going to do. Try to knock you out. If a guy happens to be a decent striker and can hang, then you know what lidells trying to do. Jardine came in with the perfect game plan. He would kick and throw a few strikes and back off. Usually Chuck is a counter puncher and he feeds off of opponents that engage him. Jardine engaged a little but but just enough to get a few shots in and get away. I thought he did great! Excellent fight! Chuck is still great he has alot left in his tank. The guy can win at anytime. He was just exposed for his lack of mixing it up. Also, Rampage really destroyed Chuck the first fight. He seriously elbowed him in the ribs and bullied lidell until lidell verbally tapped. Real sad day for Chuck. Dana white was watching also! Now that division is all screwed up. Jackson lost to vandy and shogun, but beat lidell and took his title. Now griffin was beat by jardine and tooled shogun. Who fights Page next? Really hard to tell unless we see ufc give some of these fights that I would love to see. Mix up any of these guys to fight and figure this division out: I think Tito and Lidell can beat shogun easily. If Jackson learned the clinch then I favor him winning now. I think he has progressed as a fighter from the last time these guys fought. Not to mention I don't even believe he was training full time when he fought either of them. Chuck Liddel Tito Ortiz Shogun Vandy Griffin Jardine Alexander Evans PUt all those fights together minus any rematches and we have a clear idea of whos at the top. I would love to see Griffin vs Vandy, Griffin vs Lidell, Griffin vs Evans, Griffin vs Alexander. Alexander vs Lidell, Alexander vs Shogun or Vandy, Ortiz vs Alexander. I think first off they should throw Alexander at Vandy and give this as his warmup fight. But I know Vandy wants Griffin. However, I think Griffin will beat Vandy even worse. Shogun is much more precise of a striker and he actually tears up Vandy himself. The worst part is his loopy sloppy punches. Griffin has a chin and throws inside straight punches very precise. When people come in at him with loopy punches he always gets the better of it. Watch his last few fights. Even the Jardine fight. Jardine has that weird style where he can beat anyone at any time. And hes tough as nails. Alexander, has crazy power but I dont' know how he would do against a grappler. Never seen him make it past a minute.... I think Vandy and Lidell also need to fight before they both go down hill. It would make sense bc they have both been fighting forever. Not to mention even on some of the same events in brazillian vale tudo fights. __________________ Simplicity Rules! Anything this user posts is not reality. It is an illusion. Optical lenses are quite impressive these days.

09-25-07, 09:45	#28 (permalink)
Lazlo old hand Join Date: Mar 1970 Posts: 7,034	No doubt. In the Pride fight, Rampage beat the holly hell out of him. Youtube has the Pride bought. __________________ How can you have any pudding, if you don't eat your MEAT?

09-25-07, 09:58	#29 (permalink)
Lazlo old hand Join Date: Mar 1970 Posts: 7,034	I think Chuck's next fight is against Wanderlei Silva from what i've heard. Maybe Jardine will have that fight now that he's beaten Chuck. Not sure. Regardless, either of those 2 got their work cut out for them, because Silva is a bad sumbitch! __________________ How can you have any pudding, if you don't eat your MEAT?

09-25-07, 10:29	#31 (permalink)
garrettee Mycophage Join Date: Jul 2007 Posts: 165	Jardine gets to fight Silva. I've always loved Chuck, but I guess he has had his run.

09-25-07, 14:12	#32 (permalink)
i.p.freely chronic puppy diddler Join Date: Apr 2007 Posts: 705	BAH chuck will be back on top...he just needs to quit fuckin around and train harder __________________ "I hate to advocate drugs, alcohol, violence, or insanity to anyone, but they've always worked for me." Dr. H.S.T.

09-26-07, 10:26	#33 (permalink)
Lazlo old hand Join Date: Mar 1970 Posts: 7,034	I hate to say it, but I wouldn't hold my breath. __________________ How can you have any pudding, if you don't eat your MEAT?